2009Cobalt

I've got the Cobalt and my buddy drives the Magnum. We were driving out to one of the local night meets in Bremerton. I wanted to see what my car would do against his magnum(diablo sport tune, intake, slp loud mouth exhaust). First race was a 40 roll and I was in 3rd gear....we were neck and neck until I NLS to 4th, then I pulled about 1.5 cars ahead. Shut down at 110. The second race was another 40 roll, but this time I was in 2nd and I brake boosted. I pulled about 1 car right away, then I NLS to 3rd, pulled another car ahead, and then I NLS to 4th and when I shut down at about 110-115 I was about 3.5 to 4 cars ahead. I was really suprised that I was winning with all the mods he had. I was completly stock when we raced.

Shibito

Nice kill.

austinss

Now tune yours and it will seem like he's not even trying to race you

NotME

Noice kill

MaxVQ35DE

Nice...

amxguy1970

What was he hauling? Ladder, amp, 8 2x4's, a surf board? 4 Cars seems like too much on a car that stock can trap a 100+ stock and responds fairly well to a tuner with a 93 tune which is very common as well as some bolt ons. I am a little surprised you won, but really should have been a neck and neck race not a 4 car beat down. Was his an all wheel drive version?

I have always had a thing for those Magnum's, especially the SRT-8 versions. Nothing like a fast wagon to keep people saying WTF mate!

Tyler

rollingboostedss

you really have to think about he power to weight ratio them magnum's are very heavy

Nismothecat

about 1200 pounds more than a Cobalt.

slowstang

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When my ss/tc was stock I raced more than a few 5.7 magnums and chargers. All the runs were from either a 40 or 60 roll and the outcome was very bad at those speeds. Now a dig race would be alot better suited for the r/t's

amxguy1970

I swear you guys preach power to weight like Cowboy fans preach past superbowls, that isn't all that matters not by a long shot. Look at one of the other posts above racing a new LS3 Corvette. Power to weight is about the same should be equal right? Even the OP there stated if the guy knew how to drive he would have been walked kind of bad. But wait, why is that if power to weight is about equal?

Stock RT's put down a little under 300 and run the 1/4 around 14 at 100 ish, put those mods on the OP mentioned and they are running mid to low 13's at 104 ish (give or take) and putting down low 300's at the wheels. The fastest stock TC ran what 104 through the traps? Now explain how this happens? Two 104 trapping cars are not going to be 4+ cars a part from 40-110 especially when the TC is known for falling down up top with its stock turbo.

Power to weight, mention that to the AMG guys...

Tyler

And those were stock Magnums I take it? A tune which most of the time is done with 93 octane on those cars do wonders, especially with their transmission shifts and shift points. It is a pretty big difference between stock and tuned. Add a little better breathing with an intake and exhaust and you have a mid-low 13 second wagon that can trap mid 100's!

Tyler

D4u2s0t

after all that, you're going to paper race?? classic. This post is full of fail.

Nismothecat

my good friend has a Magnum R/T and i used to have a MS3. i would walk him easy. especially from a roll.

amxguy1970

So unless you own both particular cars that are racing in your mind it is paper racing then? Huh, glad to know thanks.

Judging by the talk in this thread stock for stock is bus lengths for the TC over the RT hemi. TC versus mildly modded Hemi it is 4+ cars and a stock TC then in turn is a drivers race for a SRT-8 or stock 03 Cobra judging by the whopping that is laid on a modded RT Hemi, yup that seems to about sum it up.

Tyler

D4u2s0t

that about does sum it up actually... the srt8 runs what, mid- high 13's? a good driver in a stock tc will be a good race for the srt8... the rt? not so much.

muskegoil

You wish srt run high 13.They run 13.2 at 109mph and some have run 12s stock at 110.With a few bolt ons you're looking at high to mid 12s at over 110.Thats out of a stock tc league more like tune tc numbers.

jb09ss

It has a lot to do with which srt-8 we are talking about. I guess that a magnum srt-8 with all the extra weight is somewhat slower than a challenger. But anyway, a srt-8 is too much of a bite for a stock tc...

brickerenator

Congrats, you beat an oceanliner

SuperchargedSS

who cares, the magnum is hearse..... brutal.

amxguy1970

I can't help but laugh at this statement, you go ahead and keep up with the fan boi thinking; a stock TC is no where near a match for a SRT-8 of any model except maybe a Jeep above a 100. I swear your heads get bigger the longer your on this site and you are a prime example of that. Prognosis, stop reading the kill story section.

Right on the money. As have been said with the whole GTO/TC arguement a tuned only TC is a good run for a stock GTO under a 100 and a GTO and SRT-8 is a drivers race time and time again for any model.

Not really, all four cars are with in a 100lbs of each other, that was the problem with the LX platform. Magnum 4250, Challenger 4175, 300 4190 and all four are pretty much identical in performance. No model on any given day will consistantly be faster then another. Even the Jeep is about equal from a dig to close to a 100 with its all wheel drive. All are capable of very low 13's, that 6.1 is a bad engine!

Tyler

D4u2s0t

my mistake, I thought they were much slower than that. I take my statements back.

I'm actually far from a fanboi lol. I don't have a big head, I was jut mistaken. I'm one of the first to call bs when people post rediculous kills, and I make fun of the people that think the cobalt is invincible. Again, my bad, was just a mistake.

Behaviorz

Ive raced a couple r/t from a roll and walk them bad. I raced a charger r/t from a dig till a little over 100 and had him by like 3 cars.

muskegoil

Np man,its all good,nice to see somebody that admit when there wrong.I'll be the first to admit when i am beaten.The cobalt tc is pretty bad ass with a tune and bolt ons,i wish i could try one when i'm fully bolted

RYRO14

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[QUOTE=amxguy1970;4497969]I can't help but laugh at this statement, you go ahead and keep up with the fan boi thinking; a stock TC is no where near a match for a SRT-8 of any model except maybe a Jeep above a 100. I swear your heads get bigger the longer your on this site and you are a prime example of that. Prognosis, stop reading the kill story section.



Right on the money. As have been said with the whole GTO/TC arguement a tuned only TC is a good run for a stock GTO under a 100 and a GTO and SRT-8 is a drivers race time and time again for any model.



Not true lol I was Racing a LS2 GTO with intake, exhaust and a tune and he only pulled about a 1/2 car on me and that was a 40 roll

ssyellow

1 post thread jack, anybody race a Charger r/t with a SS s/c with GM stage 2? I want to see how I would do haha.

Muskegoil what are some common trap times for a charger r/t?

muskegoil

Stock for stock its pretty close for sc. A stg2 sc and stock r/t you'll win.stock r/t post 08 ran 14.2 at 100.The 08 and up, high 13 at 103 in normal.Put a few bolt ons on the r/t and its a driers race