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Old 09-23-2007, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by REIGNftSOLDIER
If you can film your 2.2 going 14.9 in the 1/4mile with your current mods yes i will believe that your are an AMAZING driver and find a 15.2 stock more believable.
well what would be more feasible for you? to see it actually do the 15.2 or a 14.9 or faster with my motegi tracklite 1.0s with the nexens and tenzo lowering springs? I dont have the axle back and muffler on yet or even have the exhaust cut yet to put it on. but i was planning on doing that but it can wait. i mean since im supposedly defying the laws of physics then i guess i will have to go thru a lot to get everyone to believe me. is there a different sound in exhaust if you have it cammed? cuz that was another thing i was waiting for was somebody to say the internals werent stock and im not ripping apart the engine n taking a video of that cuz the first time i rip the engine apart im going to just build it all at once (thats when i get the money for that which will hopefully be by next summer

my friend who drove his mustang and ran 14.5s all day drove my car n said it pulled close to what his stangs did (he had 3 5.0 fox body mustangs and they were all 14.0-14.5 except his 4th was runnin 12.2s to 12.7s)

im not going to lie but when i saw my time i almost pissed my pants and the 15.7 i thot was slow cuz of what most of my friends were saying that i should run and some kid i knew with a stock tsi talon (factory claim 15.2) bearly inched away from me on a 35 roll to 100. but after i saw all the times of the other balts and g5s at the track runnin 15.9-16.3 i thot my friends were retarded til i ran the 15.2

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Old 09-23-2007, 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by o3nisoaso3
im not going to lie but when i saw my time i almost pissed my pants and the 15.7 i thot was slow cuz of what most of my friends were saying that i should run and some kid i knew with a stock tsi talon (factory claim 15.2) bearly inched away from me on a 35 roll to 100. but after i saw all the times of the other balts and g5s at the track runnin 15.9-16.3 i thot my friends were retarded til i ran the 15.2
Roll racing is not the same as dig, SS/SC will PWN STI/EVO from a 40mph roll, but the STI/EVO will rape the SS from a dig...

if you can film your car doing 14.9 in the 1/4mile with your current mods(rims, tires, springs) i will still be blown away. 14.9 Video & Slip should lay this thread to rest.

dont edit the slip leave the car numbers on it, so we can compare the #on the car and the # on the slip.
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and i am also wondering where who ever is gettin 2900lbs from (unless the calculator is set at 2900lbs) where it claims from gm that they weigh 2681 (www.chevrolet.com/cobalt/specifications/) under dimensions so with driver (me) it would be 2801. and im not sure what model they are going by with the 2681...?
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hell come to ohio ill run you however you want roll dig anything..... I have dp-header-cat back an aem intake 14s are a dream lol.....
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Originally Posted by o3nisoaso3
well yea, i was planning on videotaping the numbers and saying them outloud to everyone in the video. but b4 you said a 14.9 with the exhaust mod and you would be amazed but now your saying with only springs,tires and wheels. im not concerned bout the maybe 1hp gain from the muffler but i just dont want contraversy (sp?) if i did use it and u wanted me not to. so im just trying to clairify what i am allowed and what i am not, dont think im trying to be an ******* by this, im just trying to keep us both on the EXACT same page
IDK, run it with the exhuast
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well yea, i was planning on videotaping the numbers and saying them outloud to everyone in the video. but b4 you said a 14.9 with the exhaust mod and you would be amazed but now your saying with only springs,tires and wheels. im not concerned bout the maybe 1hp gain from the muffler but i just dont want contraversy (sp?) if i did use it and u wanted me not to. so im just trying to clairify what i am allowed and what i am not, dont think im trying to be an ******* by this, im just trying to keep us both on the EXACT same page
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that is dry weight, 2900lbs is about what a car +fluids & driver weigh
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well gm is claiming 2681 as dry weight, not 2900. i posted the site for it. i have a coupe
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Originally Posted by shortyhend2004
hell come to ohio ill run you however you want roll dig anything..... I have dp-header-cat back an aem intake 14s are a dream lol.....
this thread originally started as a 2.4 vs 2.2, ill show him what a 2.4 can do...

Originally Posted by o3nisoaso3
well gm is claiming 2681 as dry weight, not 2900. i posted the site for it. i have a coupe
i know but you cant run your car dry... you have to have gas, oil, other fluids, + driver weight...


ps. kyle you like the upgrade on midwest?

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and i wasnt asking to race anyone. i have no license til new years cuz of racing and speeding tickets lol but im not risking driving that far w/o a license. but what i said is that anyone is allowed to come drive my car at the track. i mean im puttin an open offer for who ever to beat on my car at Pittsburgh Raceway Park in New Alexandria, Pa pretty much

i know it cant run dry, but it can run low on fluids. i was on E after each run and filled it up with my gas can in my buddies truck the day i was at the track and then went to sheetz right down the road afterwards... i didnt think me (120lbs) and fluids could weigh 220lbs but idk

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Old 09-24-2007, 12:26 AM
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umm dude... there was someone that ran a 12.7 something on a stock car... however thats cuz their board screwed up.

i can see a 2.2 on spray running a low 15 but that isn't happening... the quickest stock 2.4 is a 15.1 and thats really close to unbelievable
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ok well maybe it was messed up for the 15.2 but i still ran a 15.3 15.5 and 15.7 on top of a 15.2 so no matter what ppl are gonna say that im lying til i say i ran a 20+

or try to tell me that i was running modded

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Originally Posted by o3nisoaso3
ok well maybe it was messed up for the 15.2 but i still ran a 15.3 15.5 and 15.7 on top of a 15.2 so no matter what ppl are gonna say that im lying til i say i ran a 20+
looks at sig.... notices you're selling nitrous ****... thinks to self... how could a "stock" 2.2 run a 15.2-15.7.... looks at sig again... OHHHHHH wait that explains everything
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yea, too bad the slips were all before i got a nitrous kit... plus if you would look it is for parts because i do not have a full kit. and plus i just picked up the kit about a month ago, before i got laid off and it is a 75 shot dry kit. from what i heard my car wont compensate fuel for a 75 shot, that was said by adam coleman: njhk and i still never had the bottle filled. i still have the payment receipts for when i bought the nitrous items from someone and the receipts are from paypal
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Originally Posted by REIGNftSOLDIER
this thread originally started as a 2.4 vs 2.2, ill show him what a 2.4 can do...



i know but you cant run your car dry... you have to have gas, oil, other fluids, + driver weight...


ps. kyle you like the upgrade on midwest?
ehh its ok no one on there anymore lol, and no posts sucks too lol

OK i think im going to prove a point this week at the track, Im heavier im sure bc of kit and wheels but id like to match these numbers (not really b/c its not possible). But if worse comes to worse i will buy an exhaust and intake for my wifes base ls and see if a 15.2 is possible hell its stock wonder if it runs 15s? Although its a 07 so it has 2hp more or something stupid than a 06ls like mine?
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those hp calculators should take tq into the estimate in my opinion but they are showing that a stock should run a 16.665 which a lot of ppl on here or that i kno say they run faster than that
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can't wait for vids man, i have faith!
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Originally Posted by o3nisoaso3
those hp calculators should take tq into the estimate in my opinion but they are showing that a stock should run a 16.665 which a lot of ppl on here or that i kno say they run faster than that
sorry bud but most stock 2.2's run about that ....
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they will be up as soon as i can get someone to take me to the track with them and have them drive my car there... it will be before the track closes since its claiming to switch TnT to saturdays starting oct 20th and nov 10th is last day

yea, i dont have an arguement with that but you are saying most. and ive seen most autos run 16.2 all day breaking 16.0 here and there and the 5speeds were runnin 16.1-15.9 consistent as hell

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ok so you have a good track or it's down hill... but

1.)RollermanDan,14.69@95.31 w/2.34 60',coupe, manual,I/E/N20/ST
2.)YellowLT,15.34@89.55 w/2.29 60'coupe,manual,I/E/ST
3.)07cobaltkid,15.35@88.28mph w/2.22 60'coupe,manual,I/E/ST
4.)05sedan,15.61@87.99 w/2.38 60',sedan,manual, I/TB/E/ST
5.)Delta2.2,15.76@89.28mph w/2.54 60',coupe,manual,I/E/ST
6.)Clmbngfrk18,15.88@87.79 w/2.44 60',coupe,manual,I/ST
7.)REIGNftSOLDIER,16.25@86.36 w/2.54 60', coupe, manual, E/ST
8.)Simmons2.0,16.35@83.59 w/2.43 60', coupe, auto, I/E/ST
9.)Hackabuse, 16.40@83.62w/2.47 60', sedan, auto, I/E/ST
10.)Lightinbalt,16.48@83.92, coupe, manual, I/ST

see why it's a bit hard to believe?
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idk if it matters but the same day that i was running TnT they had box/no box racing with quite a few low sec cars that were burning out then backing back up to line up... ??? that do anything better with traction? because i had no wheel hop and great traction. and if there are a few members on here that are in the PRP area i will try to setup a day for us all to go up so others on this forum can verify my car is only modded what ppl want it to be or that it is stock and to verify the video and all that good stuff so i have more proof but since i agreed to do all this i dont want to hear ppl trashin me more til after the video and all that but i kno it is still expected for ppl to do so

oh i completely understand what you all are saying but i know im not lying and i guess ill just have to prove it cuz im trying to get rid of a few parts and ppl stopped their interest when i got neg rep so i need a good rep to have ppl trust me... btw what is ST?

street tires?

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yes street tires... and yes.. no box matters alot... rolling through the wet on ST just roasts em off the line... you DON"T want to burn out ST's thats just eating your tread..
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oh no no, im not saying me... im saying the "track built racers" that were running box/no box racing that day were doing that with their 12+ inch slicks running 10s to 7s in the quarter... im just saying that their rubber laying on the track right before i got to run, if that would matter with how well i was catching traction or not... i did lay a lil too much tire when i tried launchin at 4.5K which i didnt even stop to get that slip cuz i kno it was BAD
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Hmmmm....So now your not exactly sure what you ran? But I thought you had a slip! And now your saying maybe you messed up and it was a 15.4 or 15.5 or 15.7 well those . whatevers matter ALOT! Look at the list of the fastest 2.2's and what do you see? I see one breaking into the 14's useing an intake, exhaust and spraying. Then I see one running almost a 15.4 and he's runnig an intake and exhaust. Hell everone on that list in the 15's has mods and so do some 16 second cars! And these are all the same type car YOU OWN! So please if you wouldn't mind telling us, HOW exactly does a stock 2.2 run times that everyone else has to be modded to get near?

And before you try picking on my math perhaps you should re-read what I said cause your reading comprehension skills are lacking.

All that having been said I'm still saying your full of it, cause as I've said before a stock 145 hp car weighing in at anything more then 2200 pounds WILL NOT RUN A 15.2!
Go find a psysist to argue with cause your just not getting it.

Sorry you can't change physics no matter how hard you try to.
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