i'll pay $20 to anyone that's got a photo of a stock rear drive cavi.

 

Older, yes. Differnet, yes. Still front drive, though...

 

no cavalier/sunfire.sunbird ever came RWD. the cavalier from 1984ish-1989 had the 2.8 OHV v6 from 1990-1994 was the 3.1MPFI OHV v6 the sunbird had a 2.0 turbo motor in 1990-1991. 1995 was a 2.3quad4 16V motor some where HO but they where found in the grand ams and few other cars the jbodys didnt come stock with the Ho. they car quick for what they have they really weight around 2600 some can get heavy but my sunfire is 2678.

 

thanks man, appreciate it. nah the LSJ has the m62, i have the m45. heres my engine bay to tell the differance.

 

OH Ok so it was FWD my bad... I thought for sure it was RW but I was wrong... but it was faster off the line... so what ever that is worth... although I am horrible at launching

Sorry I was wrong... thanks for setting me strait it sucks to sound like an idiot... but it really seemed to be RWD when I drove it.

It was an auto and had enough oomph to spin the tires off the line... not too bad I thought.

 

That looks sick... is that an ecotec or no? I really have no idea about the older GM compacts... that is a damn nice job though.

 

[QUOTE=JackD]That looks sick... is that an ecotec or no? I really have no idea about the older GM compacts... that is a damn nice job though

That my friend would be the 2.4 DOHC twin cam formerly quad 4..good engine but no where near as refined as the ecotec.

 

Cool so when did the ecotec's life in the GM family start? 02 or 03... I know it had to be 03 or sooner?

 

in 2002 the 2.2 ECOTEC was put in the Cavalier LS Sport I was planning on trading in my -01 cav for one of the those cuz it came with sunroof Z24 ground effects, a sporty suspension, and of course the 2.2 ecotec but I got my 2.4SS lol

 

[QUOTE=snowbred]its a damn good engine, people just dont know how to build the correctly, ive never had any leaks or any crap other people have. i also got the 2.3 pump swap for beter oiling

the 2.2 eco's came out in late 02, before they changed the rear and fronts of the cav and sunfires. so some old style cav and fires came with the 2.2 eco that were made in late 02 when the engine came out.

 

[QUOTE=charged_sunfire]yeah the 2002 ecotecs are hard to find. One of my other friends has a 2.3HO its pretty loud lol. He wants to go at it when he gets it fixed so it shall go down when I have no idea.

 

all the 2002 sunfire GT's came with the eco. the stoped puting the twin cam in them in 2001. then the cavaliers came with them in late 02.

 

I love my 2.4 TC in my 2001 Z24 it's just like my 1992 Achieva SCX W41 loud, rough and impressive!

The 2.4 TC isn't as refined as the 2.2 Ecotec but it will out run one, I know someone will say otherwise but stock vs stock the 2.2 Ecotec is slower.

As for 2.4 TC vs 2.4 VVT I have raced two 2.4 SS so far one auto and one manual. The manual gave me a good run and we were dead even until my 108mph limiter. As for the auto I had 1.5-2 cars on him by 100mph.

Last year before thew track closed I ran my Z24 and ran 15.3 once and 15.4 twice.

 

The 2.4 was noticably smoother than the older Q4 because of the balance shafts they added.

My GTZ felt like a diesel at idle. But did it ever move! LOL.

 

[QUOTE=Dragonsfire12345]Tell him to check out mantapart.com or start searching junkyards for parts from a Beretta GTZ so he can have 180hp. Also Oldsmobile made a W41 motor in their Calais that was 190/195hp. Both the 180hp and higher HP motors are 2.3s

The quad 4, or 2.4tc is a pretty decent motor. I've driven my 00 Cavalier Z24 (auto.) since I got it in 02 and never had an issue with it besides changing the oil, brakes, and filters. Its a pretty quick little car, (can burn the TIRE from a stop) and is reliable. I made a lot of long distance trips with it as well. My only real gripe was the gas mileage. Unless you really drove like a granny, the thing was pretty tough on gas. (23 highway or so at 70-75mph) I traded it in on the SS S/C.

 

charged sunfire, i cant remember if you have any internal mods, i know the stock internals arnt the greatest, my friend just put an m45 on his, it gets super hot and he wants to do more things, what is essential to upgrade before getting more boost for these 2.4 motors?