So an acquaintance of mine has on 03 ish GTP. His mods are 3.4 pulley, meth, tune, intake, and maybe header. Guy comes into our car crew facebook page and starts saying that he will run another person in the group who has a 2012 manual camaro ss that is cammed, full exhaust, intake, and tuned for $100. Knowing his mods I tell the GTP not to waste his time or money running because it wouldn't even be close. He gets all kinds of butt hurt and starts saying that he would probably out run me and the camaro with his GTP. He said he definitely wouldn't have a problem outrunning my 08 cobalt ss that is tuned, intercooler kit, intake, catless dp, and full exhaust. Pretty much told him that he was crazy and that I looked forward to running him sometime.

TL;DR; GTP with 3.4 pulley, meth, tune, intake, header thinks he can beat 08 cobalt ss with tune, full exhaust, intake and intercooler kit and a 12 manual camaro ss with cam, intake, exhaust, and tune.

 

Seems he may be spraying

 

The Camaro might hurt his feelings, but don't underestimate those GTP's. They are pretty damn easy to get into the 12's. I'm not saying he'll beat you, I'm saying don't get overconfident.

 

Do the race and see what happens

 

They are surprisingly not super heavy for a full size sedan. 3500lb+/- iirc

From a roll you'll probably take him depending on both your tunes, a dig race I wouldn't be surprised if he gets it. The camero will poo all over his ego every time

 

Gtps are good dig cars they hook up surprisingly well for being fwd. However they are horrid roll racing cars (2.9 something final drive). Without method he's making 235-240 so with meth probably a little bit more. I'm not a gtp expert but I have done a little research on them. They can be quick but if your roll racing have no fear. Lol my .02

 

I plan on it the next time that I see him.

Yeah weight is correct, I could see him getting me from a dig because it is auto, but he is notorious for only doing 40 rolls which is a great place for me.

Yeah I definitely give the cars respect, but judging from his mods I'm considering no more than 280 at the crank (educated guess from zzp's website) and with weighing so much more and wanting to do 40 rolls all the time then I don't see a problem for me.

 

Aren't they stock 240 crank? Would hope a bit over 300 crank with those mods. He will be similar to a prix gxp.

 

Why are there posts about races that haven't happened?

 

Yo bro, my buddy has a Lamborghini Gallardo that has some aftermarket speakers, do you think I can keep up with it?

 

hell no.

wait are they rockfords or JLs?

 

Maybe because I thought that the situation was humorous??? Oh and the fact that he has already been stomped by another lnf cobalt.

 

Alright...well this is the war stories section, not the "I think it's funny" section.

 

but now it really is funny ;-)

 

Prix gxps are extremely disappointing for a v8. 260ish to the wheels 300 crank. My best friend is a big 3800 guy and there's a few dudes who make more than 240whp off those mods minus the meth. Stock 240 crank but 200ish to the wheels. Considering what v6s do nowadays the 3800 needs a lot of work make the power the newer ones come with stock.

 

a v8? WOT

 

The newest gtp grand prixs were the ls4 v8

 

This, I love GXPs they are really cool. Also, I actually thought for a few minutes as to which forum to post this in, but I came to the conclusion that no matter which one I choose someone is going to come in with the "Wrong section dude hahaha" comment...

 

Yes gxps have a ls4 5.3L v8 those were made from like 05-08 the gtp came with the 3800 series 3.

 

Typical intake, 3.4 pulley, headers, and tuned gets about 225whp. Assuming we're talking L67 that is. L32 would make more power with that pulley but would be knocking for sure.

 

not sure where you got that figure lol buddys 98 GTP 4 door sedan put down close to 400ft lbs of torque and over 300hp with a intake, 3.4 pulley, header, exhaust and intercooler, and of course a tune for all that, goes without saying. Car ran an easy 13.1 in the 1/4. But his 4t65e was also built by precision transmission. Car could outshift anything on the street, was recording .07 shift times in DHP. lol

 

He picked up all of his power with the intercooler. Lol literally like 60+ all from that. His numbers are pretty spot on.

 

I was in that community for a long time. That's with an IC which makes a huge difference since they don't have one stock. If that was a Gen 3 M90 with an IC I'm sure he had a more like a 3.0 pulley, but over 300whp is very unlikely without a cam. I had the same setup you mentioned with the much more efficient Gen V M90 and was only putting out about 275whp and trapping 104.

 

I misread that as gtp. I had a gran prix back in high school that I wanted to l67 swap. The GXPs and Impala SS were weird cars. Fwd v8s no thanks lol I

 

LOL a stock LNF makes 240 whp and weighs 600 lbs less than a GTP. I was street tuning my car when these two guys pulled up in a Regal GS SC. They asked me what was I was doing I said tuning may car. They asked how much it makes. I said 340 whp 370 wrtq stock turbo at 26psi, full bolt ons and 93. I asked what he had done he said a pulley and a chip (I wanted to laugh). He wanted to run me from a dig so we did a dig. I have zero grip in 1st so I rolled out at 2000 and just stabbed it. It spun hard into my 7400 RPM limiter in 1st, shifted to 2nd and spun to 70 MPH or so in 2nd, then hit third and held it down until about 110 (I never NLS). I look back and he is at least a football field behind me LOL.