lmao....

First I dont need to justify **** to anyone, especially someone like Codyss. Man you come across like such an arsehole to everyone... You do realize that right? No offence, just its hard to put up with sometimes.

As I said, the GTO is a decent bang for buck car, and I acknowleged my blanket statement regarding the v8 statement as it applies only to what I have seen and experienced in real life. Not what I have read in magazines and stuff.. But its true, for me, that a majority of gto races where there is another v8 in the opposing lane has resulted in a loss for the GTO. Combine that with my testdrive, and the hype doesnt live up to reality, for me. Not taking anything away from the car, its fast for what you pay, it's just that its not the ****... Whatever, just stating what I have seen. Who gives a rats ass.

I am far from a coby fanbois too, so when you respond with shots against the balt in other posts etc, remember that I could give a rats ass. Its a 4cyl chevy with a blower. Big deal. Its got some decent pickup and handles nice. The gas milage is great too. If I wanted a v8 I would be driving one right now.

My point is that here's another post of a cobalt driver minding his own business just to have a fukin LS2 GTO start eggin him on. How is that not candy ass? I mean, if youre so ****** fast go pick on something in your league. I know enough about cars "kid" to know not to **** with a LS2 without some serious work being done. Just saying the fact that this *** in the GTO picked on a 4cyl is pathetic. And these stories crop up a lot now.

Im not going to get into a cobra vs GTO vid posting, magazing racing flame war as I really dont think it will prove anything other than who's the biggest troll. All I can say is that I would take a terminator any day over the bloated grand prix.

My mistake is that I put myself in the GTO's driver seat. I would never be such a puss' to slow down and rev at 4cyls, and hang out in forums with my small man syndrome in tow, talking trash to 4cyl. I mean, how insecure are you to have to defend an LS2 on a 4cyl chevy forum?

Why not go to the Termintor Forums and talk trash there...

Edit: Puts flame suit on....

 

Right on I have a 2.8 60's and a meth kit I will be putting on here soon. Over the winter I will work on the exhaust and suspention. Just like yourself I probably won't run it at the track much just some fun on the streets. The WS6 will be the teack car

 

nope, i have no desire to run at the track. pure and simple. i guess you missed that part.

 

Question for you.

Since when is running richer (10.8 as opposed to a 12.0) going to run higher exhaust gas temperatures??? 99.9% of the time the leaner you go afr wise the higher your exhaust temps will be. The closer you get to stoich the hotter the combustion will be, not vice versa...your logic is backwards my friend.

 

not when meth/water injection is involved.

 

Doesnt very rich conditions raise EGT's?

 

when the fuel is being ignited in the primaries. yes. if you're runnin 10.8 afr. you're hosing down the cylinder walls

 

I thought so.

Also was this GTO a friend of yours?

 

Being someone that has owned a LS1 car for about 8 years now I can see where your point about picking on a 4cyl is but I can probably count atleast 100+ time that a little 4 banger has come along side my Trans Am's and decided they wanted to prove something and did their little ricer fly by or let me hear their fart can. Now my cars have always been loud and had a lopy cam so I would venture to guess that about half of them were just wanting me to step into it and show them what it could do but from my experience I think that the 4cyl cars are always trying to prove something but MOST V8 guys are just out minding their own business. I personally have never tried to egg a 4cyl on. The way I looked at it is it wasn't worth my time or the chance of getting a ticket but if they wanted to give it a shot I would usually just step into it run it through 1st leave them a couple cars back and then just get out of it and watch them fly by at 70 miles an hour in a 30.

 

good thing stage two was runnin at 10.0 for me eh?

rofl god that tune gets worse and worse the more i learn.

 

nope, just a random guy. i do have friends that own gto's, from stock to turboed th400 cars.

 

if i can run 13.6 on bald stock tires at 3000ft with about 25hp less than him....
im quite sure he could quite easily hit 12s on slicks.

 

Didn't know you were running meth. Your correct, thats usually good for 250 degrees or so regarding exhaust gas temps, but that still doesn't mean that you will run cooler than someone with a much lower afr unless your meth is active and even then afr still comes into play. I'll explain...

EGT can only "accurately" be measured if a constant throttle and constant load is used, so a quick reading as your meth kicks on for 3000 rpms may not reflect the whole picture. Since lower afr is a constant...they will run lower egt's constantly..not just when you are at wot and meth is activated.

Not saying your incorrect, just making sure you are careful taking max readings from a gauge while you are running meth...doesn't give you a complete picture. A 12.0 is still pretty rich but a perfect tune for FI car...have to know what your doing somewhat I guess

Just offfering my advice as a "keep an eye on it".

 

if you do it right, and your tune is solid, theres no reason it cant last longer than a stock one. (the stock tune is almost scary)

 

Dont mind him, he is to busy trying to start ****.

 

Yes, there are a few around here.

 

i'm pretty sure he talks **** on every forum

FYI: cody did, at one time have a Cobalt SS S/C

 

Running rich is not going to ever increase internal combustion temp. EGT is used to monitor AFR ratio's in your combustion chamber. So high EGT due to running overly rich doesn't convert into your motor running hot.

It will raise egt if it ignites in your exhaust pipes, but this doesn't reflect whats going on in your motor.

 

ditto. i never liked that guy

 

Your main concern with running overly rich is not your EGT, but the slow process of gas getting into your oil since it goes unburned..which we all know will end up with a spun bearing. ruining your cat or 02 sensors is the least of your worries running overly rich. But, when it comes down to it...I would rather be TOO rich than TOO lean..anyday of the week.

 

oh i know man. im just running the car at a somewhat "safe" level so to speak. i average 12.0-12.3 afr. depending on temps. which change every 2 hours here it seems. so it's more or less a blanket tune that i can get by with on a day to day basis, and not have to log every single time i start the car.


my scenerio i gave is more or less a retort to what he said. safe is only a perception of the nutcase behind the wheel. you can have acar with 900 hp, and it can live for 150k miles. why? the owner never ever gets on it. or you can have a 100 hp car live for 20k miles because the owner thinks it's a freakin race car and has to drive it like it.

 

Amen

 

Trust me AREA, I know you know your ****. I wasn't implying that you weren't and I apologize if it even remotely came out that way

I agree with your original statement too.

Mods don't ruin a car's longevity...the drivers do.

 

For some reason some people simply refuse to beleive that some of us just aren't all that interested in running at the track. The closest track to me is nearly 2 hours away... I'm lucky if I get there once a season and if I do I always take a trailer just in case, which poses even more logistical issues so pretty simply put the idea just doesn't interest me much. Sorry guys but the track just isnt an interest or practical for everyone...

 

lol, i know man it's ok. i wasn't trying to come off as a dick either. im just in a wierd mood today. so somethings may come out wrong, but thats not the intention honestly.


607. i live 5 mins from the track. i just have no desire to be honest. im there every week watching friends run, or running other peoples cars