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chevysalesman614 12-06-2006 11:32 AM

745i vs. ss s/c WTF???
 
ok before you mess with me about this one: i suck at racing my cobalt! i can drive it fine but am still practicing the launch. this guys saw me whip it past him.. pulls up to the light.. we go for it on green. i had a better r/t than him, yet he walked a bit in first due to the infamous traction probs. then in second i pulled pretty hard, had him by a nose, then missed 3rd cause i got so excited that i was winning. :lol: i thought these things were supposed to be german engineered quickness... it didn't seem that way. correct me if i'm wrong, but if i knew how to drive i think i could have walked him. is it possible he may have let off and then got back on? when i was in second he was definitly WOT.
NE1 else race one of these? i don't care who hates on the cobalt.. she's definitly not slow:twothumbs

Cobalt_SSTuner 12-06-2006 11:38 AM

they are pretty heavy cars.

cawpin 12-06-2006 11:46 AM

BMW 745
Engine Type 4.4-liter DOHC 32-valve V8 engine with aluminum block and aluminum heads
Horsepower 325 @ 6,100 rpm
Torque 330 @ 3,600 rpm
Curb Weight 745i - 4376 lbs, 745iL - 4464 lbs.

Cobalt SS/SC
Horsepower 205
Weight 2806 lbs

Cobalt Weight/Power = 13.68 lb/hp
745 Weight/Power = 13.46 lb/hp

Seems like a pretty even match to me.

Cobalt_SSTuner 12-06-2006 11:49 AM

^^^good call

vtecduster 12-06-2006 11:50 AM

definitely a close race. I'd love to pimp a 7 series bimmer.

chevysalesman614 12-06-2006 12:00 PM

nice breakdown guys

Mines_Better 12-06-2006 12:02 PM

those things are no joke even though they are heavy as hell. they run very similar 1/4 times to us. the 750 runs slightly quicker even. the 760... watch out for those! haha even though i have never heard of any of these racing. this thread is a first.

joeworkstoohard 12-06-2006 12:08 PM

yeah, that's like the US "base model" 7 series. they're pretty bad ass for what they are.

chevysalesman614 12-06-2006 12:09 PM

Cobalt SS/SC
Horsepower 205
Weight 2806 lbs

Cobalt Weight/Power = 13.68 lb/hp

06 Civic Si hp=197@7800rpm
torque=139@6100
weight 2701 lbs
civic power to weight ratio = 13.71065 lb/hp


WTF????? they are supposed to be faster than us? how come they aren't?

chevysalesman614 12-06-2006 12:11 PM

i agree, that car is big as hell, and just like the range rover sport, fairly impressive, considering the size of it. i bet they drive real nice too. :lol:

chevysalesman614 12-06-2006 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by chevysalesman614
Cobalt SS/SC
Horsepower 205
Weight 2806 lbs

Cobalt Weight/Power = 13.68 lb/hp

06 Civic Si hp=197@7800rpm
torque=139@6100
weight 2701 lbs
civic power to weight ratio = 13.71065 lb/hp


WTF????? they are supposed to be faster than us? how come they aren't?

Nevermind, i feel like an idiot... the lower number is the better one. :lol:

Darksun 12-06-2006 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by chevysalesman614
Cobalt SS/SC
Horsepower 205
Weight 2806 lbs

Cobalt Weight/Power = 13.68 lb/hp

06 Civic Si hp=197@7800rpm
torque=139@6100
weight 2701 lbs
civic power to weight ratio = 13.71065 lb/hp


WTF????? they are supposed to be faster than us? how come they aren't?

doesn't count because there numbers arent to the wheels mean while our car actually makes our claimed HP to the wheels.

Darksun 12-06-2006 12:15 PM

also i doubt a SS/SC weighs in in reality at around 2800 pounds with out driver. its more in the 2900 range.

drums2k6 12-06-2006 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by chevysalesman614
Cobalt SS/SC
Horsepower 205
Weight 2806 lbs

Cobalt Weight/Power = 13.68 lb/hp

06 Civic Si hp=197@7800rpm
torque=139@6100
weight 2701 lbs
civic power to weight ratio = 13.71065 lb/hp


WTF????? they are supposed to be faster than us? how come they aren't?

You're measuring horsepower, not torque. Even then, SS/SCs would have a better shot at winning.

N8s07SS 12-06-2006 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by Darksun
doesn't count because there numbers arent to the wheels mean while our car actually makes our claimed HP to the wheels.

Agreed. If you took the average of most people's dyno #'s on here of 210-220 whp, and then calculated the crank hp from those numbers, our power to weight ratio would be closer to 12 lb/hp, or even lower.

Darksun 12-06-2006 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by N8s07SS
Agreed. If you took the average of most people's dyno #'s on here of 210-220 whp, and then calculated the crank hp from those numbers, our power to weight ratio would be closer to 12 lb/hp, or even lower.

funny thing is our cars are heavier than claim but have more HP than claim so it kinda evens out but not really.

chevysalesman614 12-06-2006 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by Darksun
also i doubt a SS/SC weighs in in reality at around 2800 pounds with out driver. its more in the 2900 range.

that is correct.. it weighs 2911LBS. it says so on my sticker inside the door


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