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Old 12-18-2009, 11:10 PM
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99 cobra vs. ss/tc

Just doing some winter smack talk up here in shittown toledo since we have nothing else to do.
Come spring.
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full exhaust
intake
tune

ss/tc:
gm stage 1
downpipe
air box mod

I want a 40 roll but hes all about digs. What do you think?
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cobra on a dig with those mods from a dig ... i think ss/tc is going to lose
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Yep I would think so. I think the only chance I have is from a roll.
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Especially in the cold weather that you've got there now.

By chance, is this Cobra Silver? I used to do a lot of racing in Toledo.
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he'll pwn you from roll and dig.
Old 12-18-2009, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackOnBlackSS
he'll pwn you from roll and dig.
WRONG.

My GM Stg2 car w/ Intake, Exhaust, and a 2.8 ran side by side with 2 different N/A 99/01 Cobras. They aren't that fast. A Tuned SS/TC will have no problem from a roll. If he were damn good from a dig, he could probably make it interesting. But he'd have to be DAMN good... and I don't see that happening in Ohio during December or January.
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Originally Posted by USMCFieldMP
WRONG.

My GM Stg2 car w/ Intake, Exhaust, and a 2.8 ran side by side with 2 different N/A 99/01 Cobras. They aren't that fast. A Tuned SS/TC will have no problem from a roll. If he were damn good from a dig, he could probably make it interesting. But he'd have to be DAMN good... and I don't see that happening in Ohio during December or January.
actually your rite my bad, theyre only rated 320 at the crank being rwd im assuming they should be at 280 or so at the wheels.
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a 99 cobra is n/a so im sure you will own him. i spanked my buddies 07 gt with headers catback and intake. and i have a ss/sc that runs dead even with a stock sstc

just dont **** with the 03 cobra. those are the only fast ones ever made

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Yeah. The 03/04's are the ones you gotta watch out for. They are the S/C'd ones. 99 and 01's were N/A. Still quick... but not THAT quick.
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Ull walk it Im a 2.4 with full bolt ons 100shot nitrous traction bars exedy clutch n a toon and I walk fully bolted cobras I'm at the 280-290 whp 320 330 tq range and so r u
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Originally Posted by blk06cbltss
just dont **** with the 03 cobra. those are the only fast ones ever made
That's a bit of an overgeneralization.

The 99/01 Cobras, 03/04 Cobras, 03/04 Mach 1s, and 05-10 GTs are all capable of faster 1/4-mile times than an SS/TC, stock vs. stock.

Obviously, if you start throwing in variables like rolls, mods, etc, something might change, but to say that '03 Cobras (Presumably meaning '03-'04 Cobras) are the only "fast ones ever made" when there are several other models running faster than any stock Cobalt ever built, is a little misleading.
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Originally Posted by blk06cbltss
a 99 cobra is n/a so im sure you will own him. i spanked my buddies 07 gt with headers catback and intake. and i have a ss/sc that runs dead even with a stock sstc
just dont **** with the 03 cobra. those are the only fast ones ever made
Lol there must be something horribley wrong with your buddies mustang then.
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99=no sc, depending on the aggresiveness of his tune he still might take you from a dig most likely, from a forty roll im gonna say you win(def if you brake boost)
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my friends 99 Cobra was running 13.2's at 105mph before the "fix" with only a catback and air intake. After the recall it ran 13.2s at 106mph. Granted he's a good driver but yet he wasn't a full exhaust or tune car. He took alot of crap for running the times with a stockish vehicle.

I say the Cobra by a car or two from the dig. The cobalt by 1-2 cars from the 40 roll.
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Since your only on Stage 1 tune I'll say that The Cobra MIGHT be able to get you in both races depending on his tune. Bolt ons really wake up a V8 and adding a tune is not good news. You might jump him in the roll due to your TQ but with your mods I'd say your barely pushing 300hp if that. I'm only an hour and a half drive from Toledo, can I come down and play too when you guys do this? I'm roughly 330-340whp and 360-380TQ.

BTW guys, if you wanna see a scary SVT find an 02.
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Originally Posted by Shibito
BTW guys, if you wanna see a scary SVT find an 02.
The only '02 Cobras were sold exclusively in Australia.
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Originally Posted by Blainestang
The only '02 Cobras were sold exclusively in Australia.
That didn't stop some from getting into the States though. I've seen 2 in person. Truely track monsters for being factory vehicles.
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Originally Posted by jvc06sc
Lol there must be something horribley wrong with your buddies mustang then.
nope. mustang gt's are a joke

Originally Posted by Blainestang
That's a bit of an overgeneralization.

The 99/01 Cobras, 03/04 Cobras, 03/04 Mach 1s, and 05-10 GTs are all capable of faster 1/4-mile times than an SS/TC, stock vs. stock.

Obviously, if you start throwing in variables like rolls, mods, etc, something might change, but to say that '03 Cobras (Presumably meaning '03-'04 Cobras) are the only "fast ones ever made" when there are several other models running faster than any stock Cobalt ever built, is a little misleading.
when i said made i ment from the factory. i personaly know there are faster 01 cobras because my uncle owns a 10 sec 01 cobra with a procharger and a stroker motor

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Originally Posted by blk06cbltss
nope. mustang gt's are a joke



when i said made i ment from the factory. i personaly know there are faster 01 cobras because my uncle owns a 10 sec 01 cobra with a procharger and a stroker motor
That's strange because stock ones will run just about what an ss/tc does, a little faster ET's on average...with bolt ons, if it's tuned you shouldn't keep anywhere near a 3v gt if you're running dead even with stock ss/tc's. What's the fastest stock ss/tc trap like 104-105? I've seen bolt on 3v's trap in the mid teens with low teens being fairly regular with the usual bolt ons. Intake and tune only 3v's can easily make 20+rwhp more than stock nearly across the board.

Oh and trust me, terminators are not the only ones you need to worry about once any kind of modding starts. You probably shouldn't worry about terminators anyway as they are gonna be loooonnngg gone. It's such a ridiculous trend on this site of people talking **** about mustangs. There are PLENTY of minor bolt on gt's, mach 1's and n/a cobras that would run you guys down and 99% of 03-04 cobras on the road will ABSOLUTELY DOMINATE almost every car on this site.
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Originally Posted by cakeeater
That's strange because stock ones will run just about what an ss/tc does, a little faster ET's on average...with bolt ons, if it's tuned you shouldn't keep anywhere near a 3v gt if you're running dead even with stock ss/tc's. What's the fastest stock ss/tc trap like 104-105? I've seen bolt on 3v's trap in the mid teens with low teens being fairly regular with the usual bolt ons. Intake and tune only 3v's can easily make 20+rwhp more than stock nearly across the board.

Oh and trust me, terminators are not the only ones you need to worry about once any kind of modding starts. You probably shouldn't worry about termiantors anyway as they are gonna be loooonnngg gone.
from a roll im long gone =D but when it comes to a dig there is no point a mustang is rwd and has what 255s maybe bigger so ya they hook right up and have the v8 tq
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Originally Posted by blk06cbltss
nope. mustang gt's are a joke



when i said made i ment from the factory. i personaly know there are faster 01 cobras because my uncle owns a 10 sec 01 cobra with a procharger and a stroker motor
Originally Posted by blk06cbltss
from a roll im long gone =D but when it comes to a dig there is no point a mustang is rwd and has what 255s maybe bigger so ya they hook right up and have the v8 tq

I was going to respond to this but I'll let blainestang, slowstang, and cakeeater take care of it. Op: I think u will take it from a roll. From a dig I think he's got you.

Quick question for those who know. Does the 99 cobra have the 5spd Mach 1 tranny or the 6spd 03-04 cobra tranny?
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Originally Posted by Shibito
That didn't stop some from getting into the States though. I've seen 2 in person. Truely track monsters for being factory vehicles.
The '02 Cobras that were sold in Australia were just left-over '01 Cobras with a couple extra fog lights. There's nothing special about them performance-wise compared to any other 99 or 01 Cobra.


Originally Posted by blk06cbltss
when i said made i ment from the factory. i personaly know there are faster 01 cobras because my uncle owns a 10 sec 01 cobra with a procharger and a stroker motor
I was talking factory, too, when I made that list.

Stock vs stock, all the Mustangs I mentioned are capable of faster 1/4-mile times than a stock SS/TC.


Originally Posted by jvc06sc
Quick question for those who know. Does the 99 cobra have the 5spd Mach 1 tranny or the 6spd 03-04 cobra tranny?
'03-'04 Cobras were the first Cobras with the T56 6-speed.

The 99s had the 5-speed T45, and the '01s had the Tremec 3650.
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Originally Posted by blk06cbltss
nope. mustang gt's are a joke
For now...wait till the 4v GT comes in '11
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Originally Posted by blk06cbltss
nope. mustang gt's are a joke
Not in the least bit. A stock Mustang GT is nothing special at all. Nor is a stock Cobalt SS though. I'll admit that I don't give the average Mustang driver any credit as the majority are ******** with slow stock or near stock cars but there are some really mean mustangs out there. I know a few personally, one being over 1000whp. I give them all the credit in the world.

IF you continue to take Mustangs lightly someday you're gonna run into a real one and you're only going to see tail lights.
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Originally Posted by jvc06sc
Lol there must be something horribley wrong with your buddies mustang then.


Originally Posted by jvc06sc
Lol there must be something horribley wrong with your buddies mustang then.

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