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Old 07-25-2005, 06:11 PM
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has anyone takin an RX8 yet with there ss...

and do u think it could be takin... i was goign with an rx8 today but really was not pushing it cuz he really did not wana go so now im wondering if i could of really takin him or if he could of takin me...
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Originally Posted by plyboy-illest
has anyone takin an RX8 yet with there ss...

and do u think it could be takin... i was goign with an rx8 today but really was not pushing it cuz he really did not wana go so now im wondering if i could of really takin him or if he could of takin me...
I've driven one and they definitely have some go. From a dead stop, I think the RX8 would shoot out first (the car is RWD and hooks really nice). But once you're over 120 km I think you'll take the Mazda slowly.
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yea i beat one in the RL fast type too! from a 40 ya got him, not sure about a stop tho dont start any higher than 60 mph with him or he may get ya them hi rev'in rotary's dont play
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my buddy has a turbo rx8 i can pull him hardcore till turbo spools
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Originally Posted by plyboy-illest
has anyone takin an RX8 yet with there ss...

and do u think it could be takin... i was goign with an rx8 today but really was not pushing it cuz he really did not wana go so now im wondering if i could of really takin him or if he could of takin me...
Actually both the Cobalt SS S/C and the Mazda RX-8 run almost the exact same times

They both do 0-60 in 6 seconds flat, and they both run the quarter mile in about 14.5 at 98MPH. As far as handling goes, I believe the RX-8 has the advantage there.

So in a race, whether from a dig or a roll, it should be damn close. If the RX-8 driver can get a good launch, he will take the Cobalt off the line, but once the RPM's get into the midrange, the Cobalt has a huge advantage. So they would be about even until the RX-8 gets into the high RPM's, where it would pull away. Next shift, and the Cobalt reels it in, and once again they are dead even

It could go on for a while lol, but the RX-8 would probably win in terms of top speed.

From a dig or roll though, its a drivers race
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The Rx8 would have a advantage on a road coarse (50/50 weight distribution), but straight line its got more power, but also more weight, Cobalt has more torque, but the R is RWD and has a 6 speed, also has a higher gear ratio I believe (4.10s) and a 9K redline....Cobalt has the SC torque though and less weight...

Good race though....
Old 07-25-2005, 10:21 PM
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i dont know i knwo it be a close race would like to get someone to come to the track with me and run with me
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Its would be a drivers race for sure... From a dig it would be all about the launch... Ive only had my ss for 800 miles... but it seems to me to be a car of momentum ... If you can get going hard it will stay going hard !
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I watched an RX8 run a 16.00 at the track.

In a straight line I think you guys would be able to take them out.
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Originally Posted by JCX
I watched an RX8 run a 16.00 at the track.

In a straight line I think you guys would be able to take them out.

with that driver we could take a z06 out of commision lol
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funny that you mentioned the 16 seconds on a rx8 cuz iv seen a Cobalt SS S/C run a 16 flat too lol. just bad drivers making all of us look bad here.
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I was driving my friends Z24 cavilier and had one fly up on my butt, I got over...and then got on his butt, he took off, but i wasn't impressed with how slow he was pulling away, personally, I think you would rape one.
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Originally Posted by 05SCOOBYSTI
I was driving my friends Z24 cavilier and had one fly up on my butt, I got over...and then got on his butt, he took off, but i wasn't impressed with how slow he was pulling away, personally, I think you would rape one.

Keep in mind the auto tranny Rx8 is much much slower than the standard tranny.
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Originally Posted by Nocturn
Keep in mind the auto tranny Rx8 is much much slower than the standard tranny.
an auto RX8?!?!
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aye, they make an auto Rx8, but its rated, and actually is much slower..
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Originally Posted by Nocturn
aye, they make an auto Rx8, but its rated, and actually is much slower..
Sad...very sad...
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Auto is only rated around 200 and manual around 240. The engines are different. The one mated to the manual has 3 intake ports per rotor where the auto only has 2.
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i beat an rx8 not by much
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Actually properly geared automatic transmissions shift faster then standards, they also handle power a lot better too... Because it is consistent an automatic has the advantage of nailing a shift point exactly the same every time where as in a standard, that’s a bit hard to do. That’s why most drag machines use 3 or 4 speed automatic transmissions.
Example: Phase5 used the 4t65e transmission
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heres the estimations.....

Horsepower : 197 hp @ 7200 rpm(auto), 238 hp @ 8500 rpm(manual)
Torque : 164 lb-ft @ 5000 rpm(auto), 159 lb-ft @ 5500 rpm(manual)
Redline : 7500 rpm(auto), 9000 rpm(manual)
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Originally Posted by VaMP
Actually properly geared automatic transmissions shift faster then standards, they also handle power a lot better too... Because it is consistent an automatic has the advantage of nailing a shift point exactly the same every time where as in a standard, that’s a bit hard to do. That’s why most drag machines use 3 or 4 speed automatic transmissions.
Example: Phase5 used the 4t65e transmission

Im not saying its slower because its an auto, its slower because they use a different engine in the auto tranny version, which as said above has fewer intake ports per rotor, and thus makes less horespower than the one in the manual tranny. Had the engines been the same then I imagine it would be a closer race, but as it said the Manual has a power advantage.

The auto has reliability and consistancy that is useful, but the Manual will always, ALWAYS put down more HP to the ground as its a direct linkage to the engine, and it gives you much better and precise control over the engine.
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Originally Posted by VaMP
Actually properly geared automatic transmissions shift faster then standards, they also handle power a lot better too... Because it is consistent an automatic has the advantage of nailing a shift point exactly the same every time where as in a standard, that’s a bit hard to do. That’s why most drag machines use 3 or 4 speed automatic transmissions.
Example: Phase5 used the 4t65e transmission
While I'd agree that automatic transmissions offer consistant shift points, automatic transmissions have more power loss than manuals. As far as "most drag machines" using 3 or 4 speed automatic transmissions, the truth is that top end transmissions are hybrids, i.e. NHRA Pro Stock cars. Launch with a clutch and then slam gears while never moving their feet.
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Originally Posted by Nocturn
The Rx8 would have a advantage on a road coarse (50/50 weight distribution
I believe the SS s/c has 50/50 as well.
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Originally Posted by JamesBrown
I believe the SS s/c has 50/50 as well.
"60 / 40%" Says motortrend....

Not even close to 50/50
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