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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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cobalt ss/sc vs. infinity g35

Hey guys need some opinions on this. my buddy has a friend that owns an infinity g35 and keeps talking **** about my ss/sc saying how his car will own mine because we only have 205 hp stock. my friend has driven both cars hard and says that i will beat him relatively easy and to go for it. both cars are stock and his g35 is an automatic. he has a bunch of money cuz he had a death in his family and he said hed bet some money. he said hed do 500, how do u guys think the turnout would be. also were doing 3 races cuz hes one of those kids who if he lost would bitch about it, were doing from a stop, a 20 roll, and a 40 roll. thanks for the advice
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 08:57 PM
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40 roll you should win. 20 would be close, and from a stop as long as you can get a good launch over his automatic you should be able to pull it out. thats based on my experiences. i have an intake. hope this helps
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 09:00 PM
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get the stage 2 before you race him lol
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 09:05 PM
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you got it
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 09:05 PM
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if i won i planned on using the 500 for the stage 2
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 09:09 PM
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just practice launches, power shifting, or double clutching almost just after changing gears. only do that for good races though like something you know you might have trouble with dont do it to often because over time you can wear your clutch down.
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 09:16 PM
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Double clutching eh?

He's not racing the g35 with a tractor trailer.

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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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so u guys think i should beat him in a 2 outta 3 for 500 bucks both stock his as an automatic...
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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Yeah. Just when you downshift to slow down make sure that you
1.push the clutch in
2. take it out of gear.
3. let the clutch out
4. rev the engine (rev match)
5. push the clutch in
6. shift down
7. let the clutch out.

Perfect easy explanation of "Double clutching". That'll help you win tons of races Dom.
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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What year G35 the new ones might give you a problem since they fixed nearly everything wrong with the previous years but anything before the new model would be a relatively easy kill if u get a decent launch.

Stock vs stock i would be about a half a car to a full car on my friends G35 towards the end of second and keep pulling, with stage 2 he would be way behind you. (Was an 05 G35)
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 09:29 PM
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If I were you I'd install the Stg 2 using a credit card. Then after you beat him pay it off =)

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0 - 60 Time 5.73
(seconds) 1/4 Mile Time 14.30
(seconds) 1/4 Mile Speed 99.50

Infiniti G35x sedan - V6 3.5L (306 hp) 5A + ABS

Just make sure its not the G35X

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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 09:29 PM
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ya i could do that. its tough though cuz im a full time college student with the car and i know theres no way in hell i can afford this payment when i go back to school, so im working my ass of over the summer and paying off the first year so i dont have to worry about payments during the school year and i wont have another one till summer of 08. thats why my cars not gonna have many mods done till i get back in school
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 09:35 PM
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Umm. So if you lose you have to pay him 500? I'd probably wait if thats the case. And don't "Double Clutch". There is no such thing. Unless of course you are downshifting a big rig.
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 09:37 PM
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ya hes one of those kids though if he loses ill have to kick the **** outta him to get the money. one of the ones that has an excuse for everything. ya i mite just wait just wanted some advice as to how u guys thought it would go. thanks
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnySasakiMGS
Yeah. Just when you downshift to slow down make sure that you
1.push the clutch in
2. take it out of gear.
3. let the clutch out
4. rev the engine (rev match)
5. push the clutch in
6. shift down
7. let the clutch out.

Perfect easy explanation of "Double clutching". That'll help you win tons of races Dom.

Thats not double clutching. Double clutching is while your in gear flooring it in the race then as your flooring it you pushing the clutch in fast and release so from the time the clutch is in while your flooring it it revs the rpms high then that second you release you get a burst of extra power. say like 3rd gear your flooring it push the clutch in fast as flooring it and BANG! your gone helps me in races all the time but most the time i just power shift. As you probably know power shifting is just as you change gears you never let off the gas gives more power then double clutching.
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by sSsuPerChaRgEd07
Thats not double clutching. Double clutching is while your in gear flooring it in the race then as your flooring it you pushing the clutch in fast and release so from the time the clutch is in while your flooring it it revs the rpms high then that second you release you get a burst of extra power. say like 3rd gear your flooring it push the clutch in fast as flooring it and BANG! your gone helps me in races all the time but most the time i just power shift. As you probably know power shifting is just as you change gears you never let off the gas gives more power then double clutching.
Yeah, that's what I thought !

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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by sSsuPerChaRgEd07
Thats not double clutching. Double clutching is while your in gear flooring it in the race then as your flooring it you pushing the clutch in fast and release so from the time the clutch is in while your flooring it it revs the rpms high then that second you release you get a burst of extra power. say like 3rd gear your flooring it push the clutch in fast as flooring it and BANG! your gone helps me in races all the time but most the time i just power shift. As you probably know power shifting is just as you change gears you never let off the gas gives more power then double clutching.
Power shifting
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by sSsuPerChaRgEd07
Thats not double clutching. Double clutching is while your in gear flooring it in the race then as your flooring it you pushing the clutch in fast and release so from the time the clutch is in while your flooring it it revs the rpms high then that second you release you get a burst of extra power. say like 3rd gear your flooring it push the clutch in fast as flooring it and BANG! your gone helps me in races all the time but most the time i just power shift. As you probably know power shifting is just as you change gears you never let off the gas gives more power then double clutching.
{Sigh} No thats beating the **** out of your car for no reason. Also its called "kicking the clutch". The term "double clutch" was brought into the tuner world via Fast and The Furious. Thanks alot hollywood! Douchbags. Thereare no positive gains by doing what you say is a good idea. Why not just let off the gas when you shift. All you are doing is destroying your clutch.

And yes it is double clutching. Ask any trucker. Some trucks do not have synchros in the transmission so it is required that you rev match both in upshifting and downshifting.
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by sSsuPerChaRgEd07
get the stage 2 before you race him lol
hahaha cheating bastard! HA
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 11:20 PM
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Its not cheating if its a GM part. =)

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douˇble-clutch1 /ˈdʌbəlˈklʌtʃ/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[duhb-uhl-kluhch] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–verb (used without object) Automotive. to downshift by shifting gears in an automotive vehicle first into neutral and then into the desired gear, releasing the clutch twice, once for each shift.

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A double clutch (also called a double declutch) is a driving procedure used for vehicles with an unsynchronized manual transmission.

Before the introduction of transmission synchronizers (in the 1920s) and helical cut gears, double clutching was a technique required to prevent damage to an automobile's gear system. Due to the difficulty involved in learning the technique, and because of the advent of synchronized gearing systems, it has largely fallen into disuse. However, drivers of large trucks still use the double clutching technique, as those vehicles are usually equipped with older, more efficient and more durable, unsynchronized gearboxes.

The purpose of the double-clutch technique is to match the rotational speed of the input shaft being driven by the engine to the rotational speed of the gear you wish to select (directly connected to rotating wheels). Once the speeds are matched, the gear will engage smoothly. If the speeds are not matched, the dog teeth on the collar will "crash" or grate as they attempt to fit into the holes on the desired gear. A modern synchromesh gearbox accomplishes this synchronization automatically.

When shifting up on a non-synchroniser equipped vehicle, the clutch pedal is pressed, the throttle is released, and the gearbox is shifted into neutral. The clutch pedal is then released. As the engine idles with no load, the RPM will decrease until they are at a level suitable for shifting into the next gear. The driver then depresses the clutch again and shifts into the next gear. The whole maneuver can, with practice, take no more than a fraction of a second, and the result is a very smooth gear change.

However, in order to downshift, engine RPM must be increased while the gearbox is in neutral and the clutch is engaged. This requires the driver to shift into neutral, release the clutch pedal, apply throttle to bring the RPM up to a suitable speed, depress the clutch pedal again, and finally shift into gear. This operation can be very difficult to master, as it requires the driver to gauge the speed of the vehicle accurately.

A related technique is called Heel-and-Toe, during which the brake and accelerator pedal are pressed by the right foot while the clutch pedal is pressed by the left foot. Note that Heel-and-Toe can be used with any downshift clutch operation, not just with double-clutching. Though difficult, mastering Heel-and-Toe in conjunction with double clutching is essential for high performance driving (e.g., Rally racing) because taking a corner turn as fast as possible is essential to any race. The purpose of the heel-toe-double-clutch is to downshift into the correct gear for exiting the corner while not wasting speed or time during or after the turn, which also places less wear and tear on the entire drivetrain.

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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 11:20 PM
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that's right man, power shift and bounce that limiter
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 11:28 PM
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that's right man, power shift and bounce that limiter
Bum! bum! bum! BANG! puhklank phuklank Chugga chugga ping. Oh snap son i think i blew my clutch from double clutchin yo.
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 12:36 AM
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I triple clutch all the time! I figure if double clutching helps so much, triple clutching should make me run 8's!!!!!








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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 01:02 AM
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if you dont win i will slap you...
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 03:31 AM
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if you win I'll kiss you!.........hrms....
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