Yah I get it with my winter tires on .. not with the stock conti's .. can't wait for spring !!

I would usually go down to 3rd if it wasn't for that

I find that since I got the stage kit .. the 4 th gear is VERY different .. but then again all speeds are lol

so you were worried about downshifting to 3rd but NOT doing 140mph in apparently winter condition?

Darwinism folks

Nah, 4th gear in the GTO sucks. It just pulls harder than ko4 powered cars in 4th gear.

i would hope it pulls harder than a cobalt given the displacement and the price. however saying it pulls harder than k04 powered cars is not true.

the veyron is k04 powered ;) x4

lulz; seriously

Lol.

Let him get a tune and DP and try again ;) I bet it'll be a different story.

Let him learn how to drive.

1) 140mph? you're dumb

2) torque steer in 3rd gear with the GM stage 1 tune? haha

3) 140mph? you're an idiot

Congrats!

QFT...but I do love my sedan. Only problem is that sometimes it is "too" much of a sleeper :-)

I am an idiot .. but the speed rating of my tires is plenty high and the roads were empty .. so its kinda my choice .. I'm not jeopordizing anyone's life except mine right?

YES torque steer on 3rd gear with winter performance tires..

:lol:

believe me .. I may not be the best track driver ATM, but I can drive the shit out my car in the straights

and you think I would actually take the risk of driving that fast with actual snow or ice ON the road ?.. :nono:

I get that problem too. Gets annoying since the cars that think thy're faster (evo's, etc.) think I'm just some punk. Until we finally go, then I get a loof of :wtf:

i dont see the big deal with torque steer in 3rd...just drive it out, progressively push down on the throttle instead of mashing it and you would be surprised how easily you can control the torque steer. and yea....anyone can drive the shit out of a car in a strait line if they had half a brain lmao

Are you guys confusing torque steer with tramlining? I just don't how you could be getting torque steer at those speeds.

And how do you explain ppl with 14.5 second 1/4 miles and 13.8 .. with the exact same car .. with the questions sometimes asked on this forum .. I don't know how you can give such an answer

Whatever you call it .. all I know is I really have to keep my two hands on tight on the steering wheel if I don't want to go bye bye in the ditch

AND AGAIN .. I'M ON WINTER PERFORMANCE TIRES= MUCH LESS STABILITY

[QUOTE=jpower102;4635494]And how do you explain ppl with 14.5 second 1/4 miles and 13.8 .. with the exact same car .. with the questions sometimes asked on this forum .. I don't know how you can give such an answer

ill explain it. the specific tune, humidity level or just overall temperatures, track prep, and arguably most important, the 60 foot bc .1 diff in 60 foot equals .2 diff in end time. example 1.8 60 ran with a quarter mile time of 12.8. a car with the same mods that get a 2.0 60 foot wil prob be closer to a 13.2. and also the 60 foot is eliminated when rolling in case you didnt know.

[QUOTE=restonSS;4636128]Alrighty then .. so we are all exactly the same talented drivers !!

Good to know :twothumbs

But seriously .. I understand exactly what you mean .. and of course I wasn't refering to the weather conditions

I'm talking about the fact of just «feeling» the car and it being an extension of your body (LOL.. I'm feeling like a starwars writer)
Some ppl got it more than others .. I'm not the king of the road .. but when its time to really push it .. I can handle my own

YOU possibly are even better than me and I accept it .. but all in all I know how and when to push my car .. thats it :)

They arent "25k" up here , try 40 000K ...

Actually they went down to 32k for a base model .. and like 36k for the higher trim

2.2 60' here and I ran a 12.9 @ 114

2.1 60' when stock and I ran 13.8 @ 104.5

+ warranty, and applicable taxes etc you are at around the 40K mark. And thats the pre APR price. Add your interest to the price of the car over the duration of your financing as well. I would just save up the extra coin and get the Sti.

jpower, you have TWMs bushings but not their shifter? your sig is alittle misleading if so.

25k (here in the US). I'm not lying. And go look at caranddriver, I think it is, they tested the 09/10 sedans and they ran 13.4's stock.

EDIT: This is from Car and Driver
"And when we say "plenty," we mean it: the revised WRX now blasts to 60 mph from a standstill in an electrifying 4.7 seconds. That's 1.1 seconds quicker than the 2008 model—and get this—0.3 second quicker than we've managed in a WRX STI, the supposedly higher-performance version of the WRX. The fact that the WRX is now substantially quicker seems absolutely bonkers, but there are a couple of good explanations. First, the WRX STI weighs a hearty 180 pounds more than the base WRX, according to our scales. Second, the STI and its closer-ratio six-speed manual call for two shifts to 60, while the regular WRX's five speed hits 60 mph in second gear. By the time the pair travel a quarter-mile, the '09 WRX loses some ground, though; both cross the line at 102 mph, with the base Rex edging out the STI by just 0.1 second, 13.5 to 13.6."

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...d06/Subaru.jpg

And with nothing but a tune and DP they are faster then the 08-10 STI's. A lot of people hitting mid- high 12's. Quite impressive if you ask me

It aleady does

"the base Rex edging out the STI by just 0.1 second, 13.5 to 13.6."

I mean I know its because of weight, but I seen on the WRX forum some guy his 12.9 stock. Impressive for 25-26k base. I love them, just wish they were american lol