Cobalt SS Turbo vs 04 Mach 1 (Video)
11-04-2009, 11:08 AM
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You know you can trifecta tune a car on a dyno right? Vince uses CIA's dyno's. Also I worked at a dynoshop in tampa before I moved here. Dyno tuning is great and all but it does not address traction issues like street tuning does. Pull your head out your ass, and maybe you could see it. The SS is my DD too, my track car is a built twin screw C5 on R- Comps. It suspension is tuned for road course, and has logged over 50 dyno miles, and over 1000 miles around sebring and road atlanta. Dyno tuning I only use to get the A2F ratio managable, street/race tuning (test and tune days), is used to tune the car for how it performs on the asphalt. AKA the real world. Dyno tuning is only effective in racing if you plan on racing on the dyno.
If you think street tuning is needed on a cobalt with a few mods you are ridiculous.
We are not talking 800WHP cars here, were talking ******* cobalts, ones with 300WHP.
Built twinscrew C5 on R-Comps, Pic or Video or Dynosheet please.
11-04-2009, 11:18 AM
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I can get a pic up when I get off of a gov. computer, but I will PM it to you since it does not pertain to this thread at all. I also built an LS6 miata, with a CTS-V transmission, (which his been posted up on here before too, again if you knew me you would not be trying to E-Thug me. The C5 is sitting in Salina CA in my friends garage in storage. (I will be doing track events at Laguna Seca in the near future.)
And as for a cobalt, street tuning is a must if you like traction. You have to tweak to tq management to get things streetable, and so you can pull all the whp to the ground.
And the C5 is only at 558whp/502ftlbs right now with 7 lbs of boost. (detuned) It seems to be the most reliable and drivable hp level for the car.
And as for a cobalt, street tuning is a must if you like traction. You have to tweak to tq management to get things streetable, and so you can pull all the whp to the ground.
And the C5 is only at 558whp/502ftlbs right now with 7 lbs of boost. (detuned) It seems to be the most reliable and drivable hp level for the car.
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11-04-2009, 02:38 PM
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Oh do enlighten me God of all that is Automotive.
And if its your dd why did you just risk your warranty by tuning it? Sounds pretty stupid if its only your DD. Most of the people here these cars are their only means of transportation so it makes a bit more sense. But with you having this as your dd then thats kind of stupid. Small mods that gm cant find out about are one thing.
Oh and what dyno did you have your GOD of all tunes done on?
And if its your dd why did you just risk your warranty by tuning it? Sounds pretty stupid if its only your DD. Most of the people here these cars are their only means of transportation so it makes a bit more sense. But with you having this as your dd then thats kind of stupid. Small mods that gm cant find out about are one thing.
Oh and what dyno did you have your GOD of all tunes done on?
11-05-2009, 12:55 AM
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Oh do enlighten me God of all that is Automotive.
And if its your dd why did you just risk your warranty by tuning it? Sounds pretty stupid if its only your DD. Most of the people here these cars are their only means of transportation so it makes a bit more sense. But with you having this as your dd then thats kind of stupid. Small mods that gm cant find out about are one thing.
Oh and what dyno did you have your GOD of all tunes done on?
And if its your dd why did you just risk your warranty by tuning it? Sounds pretty stupid if its only your DD. Most of the people here these cars are their only means of transportation so it makes a bit more sense. But with you having this as your dd then thats kind of stupid. Small mods that gm cant find out about are one thing.
Oh and what dyno did you have your GOD of all tunes done on?
11-05-2009, 12:58 AM
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Seriously dude stfu already its like ur the css.net **** trying to split hairs on every thread and post, my ss/tc is a dd also,who cares its running safe and I know nothing major will happen to it with the mods I have. No on claimed their ss/tc is a GOD of all cars, you always take **** out of context and twist ur own logic into it, its like you're trolling just to talk ****, every thread I go on to I see you picking an argument with a different person.
And I only respond to **** talking I dont start it. Look at the thread. Now however your post was nothing but a trolls response. So Pot meet kettle! You two play nice now!
Onto spins all day do tell me why this dyno tuned car is so much better than a trifecta tune? What kind of dyno were you tuned on? A dynojet?
11-05-2009, 01:02 AM
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you again? nothing better to do?
And I only respond to **** talking I dont start it. Look at the thread. Now however your post was nothing but a trolls response. So Pot meet kettle! You two play nice now!
Onto spins all day do tell me why this dyno tuned car is so much better than a trifecta tune? What kind of dyno were you tuned on? A dynojet?
And I only respond to **** talking I dont start it. Look at the thread. Now however your post was nothing but a trolls response. So Pot meet kettle! You two play nice now!
Onto spins all day do tell me why this dyno tuned car is so much better than a trifecta tune? What kind of dyno were you tuned on? A dynojet?
11-05-2009, 01:09 AM
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just stfu and show some respect to people. wtf do you have against ss/tc's? You always make it seem like we the owners think their God cars, your almight this and that, it almost seems like someone is jelous hmm, can it be? Don't write back if ur gonna come up with some witty remarks that you think are cute.
And honestly your talking down to everyone about that they shouldnt mod a non ss/tc that they should just buy the ss/tc. And in order to get respect you have to show it. As you went after me first I have zero respect for you and think your a punkass lil douchbag that would cry and cower if he was ever actually stepped up on. As far as the jealous comment sorry neither you nor spins have even broke mid 300hp to the wheels. Some come back when your car grows a pair. With that said im still waiting on a response from Spins as to why he thinks his tune is so much better. Now go off and cry some where lil kid.
11-05-2009, 01:14 AM
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Buddy all I need is a retune and Ill make 330whp with my mods. Do tell me tho how far are you planning to get on ur 2008 Victory Red Cobalt Sport- Injen Cai - Jet Stage II - Tint? OMG jet staged 2 Gee golly im gonna step down because you will obviously spank me with your mods since im not at 300 @ the wheels. Plenty of people on css are pushing over 300whp without any major problems, whether street tuned or can tuned.
11-05-2009, 01:19 AM
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Buddy all I need is a retune and Ill make 330whp with my mods. Do tell me tho how far are you planning to get on ur 2008 Victory Red Cobalt Sport- Injen Cai - Jet Stage II - Tint? OMG jet staged 2 Gee golly im gonna step down because you will obviously spank me with your mods since im not at 300 @ the wheels. Plenty of people on css are pushing over 300whp without any major problems, whether street tuned or can tuned.
Rissa thats fine I just want to know why Spins all day thinks its better if he can offer a valid point I will back off.
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11-05-2009, 09:35 PM
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And do you think ZZP uses a canned tune on their own cars. Its funny cause ZZP's cars are the fastest, yea the ones they own.
The ones they tune from other parts of the country are not even close to being fast.
ZZP Tunes all their cars on a DYNO. ZZP does still offer a canned tune though.
There is a reason why a DYNO tune from ZZP is 350 while a new PCM tune is only 199, Because the dyno tune is better
You guys need to pull your head out your ass.
Cobalt is my DD. You know nothing.
Sounds slow, Mustang GT's are garbage.
Anytime your ready sweetheart , Hope your making over 600 WHP and weigh around 3300LBs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xc6SGdLMs4
perfect example of mustang trash :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1_PmxPs-Bo
The ones they tune from other parts of the country are not even close to being fast.
ZZP Tunes all their cars on a DYNO. ZZP does still offer a canned tune though.
There is a reason why a DYNO tune from ZZP is 350 while a new PCM tune is only 199, Because the dyno tune is better
You guys need to pull your head out your ass.
Cobalt is my DD. You know nothing.
Sounds slow, Mustang GT's are garbage.
Anytime your ready sweetheart , Hope your making over 600 WHP and weigh around 3300LBs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xc6SGdLMs4
perfect example of mustang trash :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1_PmxPs-Bo
11-05-2009, 11:56 PM
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So many vince nut swinging ******* hippies makes me wanna puke
Vince who the hell is Vince tri what fecta who ?
Not a real tuner .. 4 hours of data logging LOL wow big deal
Vince who the hell is Vince tri what fecta who ?
Not a real tuner .. 4 hours of data logging LOL wow big deal
11-06-2009, 12:47 AM
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So termitune, big ******* deal. All it is, is a modified hp tune map from 1badblueberry. Hardly anything original. You know nothing about tuning, go to your corner. (one bad has mod dynotime in his tune than about anyone on there, just as much time as vince has in his LNF tunes.)
and also I had terminator himself tune my car..... I have done his tune, the superchips tune, and the trifecta tune. What have you done?
11-06-2009, 09:57 AM
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Not a real tuner, yet his tunes make just as much power as everyone elses tunes, if not more.