Cobalt ss turboed vs. slp ss camaro
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Cobalt ss turboed vs. slp ss camaro
I'm back i used to have a 2.4L supercharged balt that I totalled. But just yesterday I was driving my slp 2002 camaro and my camaro is no joke, ive run a 12.59 at capitol raceway, and this turboed silver turbo cobalt comes up and reved his motor and i heard the blow off valve so i got excited. i reved back and the light turned green and i got an early lead on him out of the holeshot. but he kept creaping up and it wasnt till about 110 that he started falling behind. I had no idea that cobalts were that fast. Mine wasnt that fast and it had around 220-240fwhp.what would make a cobalt go that fast???
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I'm back i used to have a 2.4L supercharged balt that I totalled. But just yesterday I was driving my slp 2002 camaro and my camaro is no joke, ive run a 12.59 at capitol raceway, and this turboed silver turbo cobalt comes up and reved his motor and i heard the blow off valve so i got excited. i reved back and the light turned green and i got an early lead on him out of the holeshot. but he kept creaping up and it wasnt till about 110 that he started falling behind. I had no idea that cobalts were that fast. Mine wasnt that fast and it had around 220-240fwhp.what would make a cobalt go that fast???
A turbo
I walked a stage 2 08 WRX STI from a roll yesterday he was in disbelief too. they are just light cars with lots of trq with good gearing. The Direct injection helps with efficiency too so a lot of stuff adds up fast ... I remember pulling on a camaro as the homo passenger is waving bye like his home boys car was SOOO fast my balt was creeping on him every second of the way. That was a Z28 with a Cam , bolt ons , manual ls1 , I only had a crappy tune with no mods at the time too.. lol not that the balts are gods car but they are pretty cheap fun economy cars to mess with gas guzzelers especially. Its fun to play with v8's
I also ran into a Porsche Carrera 4s some guy had just bought .... I pulled on that car hard man ... I second guessed my self though because I figured he was new to the car and didn't know how to drive it but It was from a 20 MPH pull I was on his bumper BEHIND him by 85 MPH I was passing him LOL fun stuff
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oh yeah i heard cobalts were sick from a roll he would of walked me if i was going from a roll. my car is set up for digs and im trying to hit 11s right now im going with a ms4 cam swap soon so hopefully me and the balt meet up again and he has more **** done next time :-) then we can have a race
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oh yeah i heard cobalts were sick from a roll he would of walked me if i was going from a roll. my car is set up for digs and im trying to hit 11s right now im going with a ms4 cam swap soon so hopefully me and the balt meet up again and he has more **** done next time :-) then we can have a race
Weights: curb weight (lbs) 3,252
355 HP SAE @ 6,600 rpm; 295 ft lb
only 300 Lbs trq and costs $81,880 new thats an 03 price LOL
I am not sure if it was the older model though cuz they are even slower
Hp @ rpm 315 @ 6800
Torque @ rpm 273 @ 4250
Thats the older model but they look almost 100% the same allthough the one I raced looked BRAND new and had brand new dealer tags on it so I am guessing it was new ? Who knows Porsche owners respectively keep their cars clean so it could have been the pre 09 models
I guesstimate my car at this altitude is putting down around 300 HP 325 Lbs trq and it weighs around 3000 lbs and costs 23k + its my Daily Driver fun stuff
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one guy has a green bullet mustang I never even heard of em till I looked it up so..
Its either a rust bucket or full blown set ups here no middle class ... I just take the oppertunity if it comes my direction lol
I mean you will drive around seeing nothing but rust buckets then you will see ferraris zr1's lambos .. I mean it is possibly the weirdest place I have ever seen as far as cars are concerned .. we gotta drap strip here and I think most people are into bracket racing here .... I am not into that style it just doesn't float my boat..
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Im in MD putting down around 300whp 360 ft lbs ill meet ya for some runs
my mods are, airbox mod, zzp downpipe, and hp tuned by byt turbo ss,
my mods are, airbox mod, zzp downpipe, and hp tuned by byt turbo ss,
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Whats done to your SS Camaro vetteman? cmiller has gone 12.2 IIRC without a huge mod list . The Turbalt's are fun but will always have that.... wrong wheel drive thingie.... hanging over their head.
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bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahhaha
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I mean the porsche specs are
Weights: curb weight (lbs) 3,252
355 HP SAE @ 6,600 rpm; 295 ft lb
only 300 Lbs trq and costs $81,880 new thats an 03 price LOL
I am not sure if it was the older model though cuz they are even slower
Hp @ rpm 315 @ 6800
Torque @ rpm 273 @ 4250
Thats the older model but they look almost 100% the same allthough the one I raced looked BRAND new and had brand new dealer tags on it so I am guessing it was new ? Who knows Porsche owners respectively keep their cars clean so it could have been the pre 09 models
I guesstimate my car at this altitude is putting down around 300 HP 325 Lbs trq and it weighs around 3000 lbs and costs 23k + its my Daily Driver fun stuff
Weights: curb weight (lbs) 3,252
355 HP SAE @ 6,600 rpm; 295 ft lb
only 300 Lbs trq and costs $81,880 new thats an 03 price LOL
I am not sure if it was the older model though cuz they are even slower
Hp @ rpm 315 @ 6800
Torque @ rpm 273 @ 4250
Thats the older model but they look almost 100% the same allthough the one I raced looked BRAND new and had brand new dealer tags on it so I am guessing it was new ? Who knows Porsche owners respectively keep their cars clean so it could have been the pre 09 models
I guesstimate my car at this altitude is putting down around 300 HP 325 Lbs trq and it weighs around 3000 lbs and costs 23k + its my Daily Driver fun stuff
Yeah, good kill. (-%
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Nothing else to do but laugh at the cammed LS1 and Carrera 4S post, keep dreaming...
What have you got done? You mentioned putting in a cam, are you just full bolt ons right now?
Sounds like you ran into a bolted/tuned TC as they can run in upwards of 115 traps. Only thing is though like your race stated they are strong under a 100, but compared to a large displacement V8 above a 100 the economy car gearing and small engine just can't hang way up top.
Good run though!
Tyler
oh yeah i heard cobalts were sick from a roll he would of walked me if i was going from a roll. my car is set up for digs and im trying to hit 11s right now im going with a ms4 cam swap soon so hopefully me and the balt meet up again and he has more **** done next time :-) then we can have a race
Sounds like you ran into a bolted/tuned TC as they can run in upwards of 115 traps. Only thing is though like your race stated they are strong under a 100, but compared to a large displacement V8 above a 100 the economy car gearing and small engine just can't hang way up top.
Good run though!
Tyler
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Look at the specs and realize that Princess has one hell of a tune from Terminator2. If those are the Porsche specs then I could see Princess walking that Porsche like it was standing still.
I'll have to agree here though, I don't think ANY 08+ Cobalt SS is going to pull on a LS1 with a half ass tune. I only pulled 2-3 cars on a bolted LS1 GTO when I had a tune, IC, DP. Keep in mind that the GTO's are a good deal heavier then the Camaro's iirc (V8's aren't my knowledge area.)
I'll have to agree here though, I don't think ANY 08+ Cobalt SS is going to pull on a LS1 with a half ass tune. I only pulled 2-3 cars on a bolted LS1 GTO when I had a tune, IC, DP. Keep in mind that the GTO's are a good deal heavier then the Camaro's iirc (V8's aren't my knowledge area.)
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Look at the specs and realize that Princess has one hell of a tune from Terminator2. If those are the Porsche specs then I could see Princess walking that Porsche like it was standing still.
I'll have to agree here though, I don't think ANY 08+ Cobalt SS is going to pull on a LS1 with a half ass tune. I only pulled 2-3 cars on a bolted LS1 GTO when I had a tune, IC, DP. Keep in mind that the GTO's are a good deal heavier then the Camaro's iirc (V8's aren't my knowledge area.)
I'll have to agree here though, I don't think ANY 08+ Cobalt SS is going to pull on a LS1 with a half ass tune. I only pulled 2-3 cars on a bolted LS1 GTO when I had a tune, IC, DP. Keep in mind that the GTO's are a good deal heavier then the Camaro's iirc (V8's aren't my knowledge area.)
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I'll have to agree here though, I don't think ANY 08+ Cobalt SS is going to pull on a LS1 with a half ass tune. I only pulled 2-3 cars on a bolted LS1 GTO when I had a tune, IC, DP. Keep in mind that the GTO's are a good deal heavier then the Camaro's iirc (V8's aren't my knowledge area.)
I would think the one he/she claims to have ran didn't really have a cam. Probably just claimed it and didn't know what they were talking about.
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it's not even about the tune(though that usually makes a huge difference). It's the fact that it was a Cam+bolt on LS1. No way an LNF car pulled that with just a couple bolt ons and a tune.
I would think the one he/she claims to have ran didn't really have a cam. Probably just claimed it and didn't know what they were talking about.
I would think the one he/she claims to have ran didn't really have a cam. Probably just claimed it and didn't know what they were talking about.
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To the untrained ear a miss fire and a cam could probably be conceived as the same thing... Just a thought.
Still want to know the mods on the OP's car. It is either a very strong running bolt on Camaro or a mild mannered Cam only car (with supporting mods of course).
Tyler
Still want to know the mods on the OP's car. It is either a very strong running bolt on Camaro or a mild mannered Cam only car (with supporting mods of course).
Tyler
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Nothing else to do but laugh at the cammed LS1 and Carrera 4S post, keep dreaming...
What have you got done? You mentioned putting in a cam, are you just full bolt ons right now?
Sounds like you ran into a bolted/tuned TC as they can run in upwards of 115 traps. Only thing is though like your race stated they are strong under a 100, but compared to a large displacement V8 above a 100 the economy car gearing and small engine just can't hang way up top.
Good run though!
Tyler
What have you got done? You mentioned putting in a cam, are you just full bolt ons right now?
Sounds like you ran into a bolted/tuned TC as they can run in upwards of 115 traps. Only thing is though like your race stated they are strong under a 100, but compared to a large displacement V8 above a 100 the economy car gearing and small engine just can't hang way up top.
Good run though!
Tyler
Wow idiots really have no idea how much Naturally aspirated engines suffer at
high altitude , do your selves a favor and try doing a GOOGLE search say it with me now
GOO GULL Like SEA-GULL but with Gew in front .
Whats funny is I never said I beat the camaro as we didnt have enough highway to run em out right I said he gunned it and a started to pull on him .. ******* people here wow Cant stand half these know it all's
That **** I quoted in bold should have made me just not even bother to post especially a manual one LOL . Little bois are funny
amx - Glad you had a good laugh my dream is a reality too bad so sad .... I laid out the specs of the 4s for you , if you want I can teach you some math too just send me a PM
If you really want to talk some **** one of my latest suprises was one of these I didn't even know what the **** it was till I looked it up after getting home
ROUSH 427R Mustang
http://www.roushperformance.com/mustang_427r.shtml
My car is neck and neck with this bitch ... The balt may have been a TAD slower but from what I could tell it wasn't that fast , we never had a whole lot of room to play so you talk some **** on your NO WAY this and that nonsense I don't ******* lie I have had my doors somked by some Supras and vettes srt4's around here so I am not just some ******* BS'er looking to make the cobalt look good , I make comments based on actual events I am not just some doubter on here who thinks they "know" how fast a car is and what it can beat and what it can't just by looking up 1/4th mile times and comparing stupid ass 1/4th ETA's and trap speeds based on wikipedia and youtube videos . Last time I checked a street isn't a drag strip . Last time I checked both of you live at sealevel too .... Naysayers talkin **** just because they think they know it all, fact is they really do not know ****, and I will not be hesitant to show how stupid some of you people are looking ...
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Wow idiots really have no idea how much Naturally aspirated engines suffer at
high altitude , do your selves a favor and try doing a GOOGLE search say it with me now
GOO GULL Like SEA-GULL but with Gew in front .
Whats funny is I never said I beat the camaro as we didnt have enough highway to run em out right I said he gunned it and a started to pull on him .. ******* people here wow Cant stand half these know it all's
That **** I quoted in bold should have made me just not even bother to post especially a manual one LOL . Little bois are funny
amx - Glad you had a good laugh my dream is a reality too bad so sad .... I laid out the specs of the 4s for you , if you want I can teach you some math too just send me a PM
If you really want to talk some **** one of my latest suprises was one of these I didn't even know what the **** it was till I looked it up after getting home
ROUSH 427R Mustang
http://www.roushperformance.com/mustang_427r.shtml
My car is neck and neck with this bitch ... The balt may have been a TAD slower but from what I could tell it wasn't that fast , we never had a whole lot of room to play so you talk some **** on your NO WAY this and that nonsense I don't ******* lie I have had my doors somked by some Supras and vettes srt4's around here so I am not just some ******* BS'er looking to make the cobalt look good , I make comments based on actual events I am not just some doubter on here who thinks they "know" how fast a car is and what it can beat and what it can't just by looking up 1/4th mile times and comparing stupid ass 1/4th ETA's and trap speeds based on wikipedia and youtube videos . Last time I checked a street isn't a drag strip . Last time I checked both of you live at sealevel too .... Naysayers talkin **** just because they think they know it all, fact is they really do not know ****, and I will not be hesitant to show how stupid some of you people are looking ...
high altitude , do your selves a favor and try doing a GOOGLE search say it with me now
GOO GULL Like SEA-GULL but with Gew in front .
Whats funny is I never said I beat the camaro as we didnt have enough highway to run em out right I said he gunned it and a started to pull on him .. ******* people here wow Cant stand half these know it all's
That **** I quoted in bold should have made me just not even bother to post especially a manual one LOL . Little bois are funny
amx - Glad you had a good laugh my dream is a reality too bad so sad .... I laid out the specs of the 4s for you , if you want I can teach you some math too just send me a PM
If you really want to talk some **** one of my latest suprises was one of these I didn't even know what the **** it was till I looked it up after getting home
ROUSH 427R Mustang
http://www.roushperformance.com/mustang_427r.shtml
My car is neck and neck with this bitch ... The balt may have been a TAD slower but from what I could tell it wasn't that fast , we never had a whole lot of room to play so you talk some **** on your NO WAY this and that nonsense I don't ******* lie I have had my doors somked by some Supras and vettes srt4's around here so I am not just some ******* BS'er looking to make the cobalt look good , I make comments based on actual events I am not just some doubter on here who thinks they "know" how fast a car is and what it can beat and what it can't just by looking up 1/4th mile times and comparing stupid ass 1/4th ETA's and trap speeds based on wikipedia and youtube videos . Last time I checked a street isn't a drag strip . Last time I checked both of you live at sealevel too .... Naysayers talkin **** just because they think they know it all, fact is they really do not know ****, and I will not be hesitant to show how stupid some of you people are looking ...
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[QUOTE=Vetteman99;4409271] my camaro is no joke, ive run a 12.59 at capitol raceway, ]
$20 says it had a cam.....because it was running! lame i know but had to add it lol
Or it's average for an LS1. I pulled off a few 12.90s in a bolt on, stalled LT1.
Word. Even a baby cam like a 224 will take an M6 Camaro to low 12s, even better in a stalled a4. And take a look at the Vindicator and Texas Giant cams that are making 425 to 450whp on stock heads and pulling 10s. Those run mid 12s.
Or it's average for an LS1. I pulled off a few 12.90s in a bolt on, stalled LT1.
Word. Even a baby cam like a 224 will take an M6 Camaro to low 12s, even better in a stalled a4. And take a look at the Vindicator and Texas Giant cams that are making 425 to 450whp on stock heads and pulling 10s. Those run mid 12s.
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