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Old 07-19-2005, 08:16 PM
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Cobalt SS vs RSX Type S (stock)??

Just curious....new member here. Was a chevy fan years ago when they had performance cars aside from vettes. Ended up with an 03 RSX Type S. Haven't test drove an SS yet but was curious as to how they fair against the 05 Type S. I've heard close 1/4 mile times but wanted an unbiased opinion (might be hard to get here).

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It's been talked about on here a few times.

They have similar bhp but the Cobalt has more torque, so will probably end up as a driver's race.
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I have raced two RSX'S' and beat them.

From a roll they are fairly even, however the SS does still pull slightly away. But out of the hole it's Usually a two car length victory.

Throw a blower on the rsx though and it's a whole other story.
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Looking at the specs I'd figure the SS should win by a few car lengths but looking at the times most drivers are pulling (high 14's low 15's) i'm not so sure. The SS puts down about 207~215+ hp and 180~190 ft/lbs and from what I've been seeing the 05 Type S is putting down around 170whp and 140ish (not sure) ft/lbs. Their weights are similar so either the SS is slower than it should be or maybe the drivers suck .

how many miles do you have DomesticDemon?
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welcome to the site. stock for stock the cobalt SS will win. throw in i/h/e/#4 on the type S and it will be a close race. go F/I on the type S and you will win for sure. just depends on how much you wanna spend and if you are going F/I or N/A. post some pics of your rsx type S.
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Originally Posted by xonic
Looking at the specs... the 05 Type S is putting down around 170whp and 140ish (not sure) ft/lbs. Their weights are similar so either the SS is slower than it should be or maybe the drivers suck .
Here are the official 2005 RSX Type S performance specs taken from Edmunds.com

Performance
Base Number of Cylinders: 4 Base Engine Size: 2 liters
Base Engine Type: Inline 4 Horsepower: 210 hp
Max Horsepower: 7800 rpm Torque: 143 ft-lbs.
Max Torque: 7000 rpm Drive Type: FWD
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The SS is capable of trapping a few mph higher, and since they both will be traction limited off the line, the SS should win. The SS is capable of low 14's... the 05-S has done a best of 14.5 or so. Driver could certainly make the difference, but the SS 'should' be faster.
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Basically a RSX Type-S best run is about equal to the worst runs of a SS/SC. With the exception of a couple 15 second runs.

A RSX's HP and TQ numbers sound good but look bad on paper and even worse on the street. I guess when I bought my SS/SC the RSX didn't even cross my mind as far as being a threat.
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Originally Posted by DC52NV
welcome to the site. stock for stock the cobalt SS will win. throw in i/h/e/#4 on the type S and it will be a close race. go F/I on the type S and you will win for sure. just depends on how much you wanna spend and if you are going F/I or N/A. post some pics of your rsx type S.
The only mods I've got are CAI and Hondata. Everything else is stock. This is a pic of my car about a year ago. Since then, I've removed those heavy ass 18" rims/tires and dropped it about 1.5 inches.

Sorry....picture didn't take. How do you attach a photo on here??....most have a section "Manage Attachments".
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Originally Posted by AZESS
The only mods I've got are CAI and Hondata. Everything else is stock. This is a pic of my car about a year ago. Since then, I've removed those heavy ass 18" rims/tires and dropped it about 1.5 inches.

Sorry....picture didn't take. How do you attach a photo on here??....most have a section "Manage Attachments".
Check the "How to" section on the home page. However, I still haven't figured it out either so we're in the same boat.
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Originally Posted by xonic
Looking at the specs I'd figure the SS should win by a few car lengths but looking at the times most drivers are pulling (high 14's low 15's) i'm not so sure. The SS puts down about 207~215+ hp and 180~190 ft/lbs and from what I've been seeing the 05 Type S is putting down around 170whp and 140ish (not sure) ft/lbs. Their weights are similar so either the SS is slower than it should be or maybe the drivers suck .

how many miles do you have DomesticDemon?

I have 5,900 Miles.
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I wish I could race a Type-S! I've had 2 chances to race one and each time I couldn't get them to go. Maybe next time. Raced a Prelude V-TEC 2.2L last night though. I wasn't trying at first but when I noticed he was going I hit it. I didn't even shift hard from 1st to 2nd gear, plus I didn't go to near redline from 2nd to 3rd and I wasted it!!
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Originally Posted by DomesticDemonSS
I have raced two RSX'S' and beat them.

From a roll they are fairly even, however the SS does still pull slightly away. But out of the hole it's Usually a two car length victory.

Throw a blower on the rsx though and it's a whole other story.

yeah, but are they gonna be able to run a a blower AND a turbo on them
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^^^^ hello no! Engine go BOOM
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Domestic..is your car really lowered? or is that photshop? If it's real, that sick looking! Is that like a 2" drop?
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from what I hear the ss is underrated and it turns out that acura might have overrated them by using a different hp measuring system instead of SAE.
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Originally Posted by selfinfliction
yeah, but are they gonna be able to run a a blower AND a turbo on them
blower and turbo? dude, there are turbo'ed rsx's everywhere. they are safe to turbo.
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yeh..one of the guys here in Phx is putting out about 320 to the wheels with a turbo...it is insane and is his daily driver. He's just waiting for SS's and SRT-4's.
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Originally Posted by AZESS
yeh..one of the guys here in Phx is putting out about 320 to the wheels with a turbo...it is insane and is his daily driver. He's just waiting for SS's and SRT-4's.
haha, w/ that much power i wouldn't waste my race gas on those cars. i'd be going after evo's, sti's, Z's, etc. a highly modded srt-4 would be a good race too.
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i beat a type-s a few nights ago, stock vs. stock from a dig

ps - i have LSD
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Originally Posted by DC52NV
haha, w/ that much power i wouldn't waste my race gas on those cars. i'd be going after evo's, sti's, Z's, etc. a highly modded srt-4 would be a good race too.
Gotta remember....some SRT owners love running around looking for imports to smoke (which I would probably do too if I drove one).
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Originally Posted by DC52NV
blower and turbo? dude, there are turbo'ed rsx's everywhere. they are safe to turbo.

I think he was talking about twin-charging the SS (super and turbo charged).
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Originally Posted by JamesBrown
i beat a type-s a few nights ago, stock vs. stock from a dig

ps - i have LSD
So how bad did you beat him?? Was he modded? Just curious as SS's are still pretty rare and I haven't had the chance to play with one to see how bad I get pulled.
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I've raced lots of stock RSX's and I dont consider myself a good driver but I've pulled away greatly each time, but remember those things are all engine! we have SUPERCHARGERS!


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