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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 06:02 AM
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Yea im gonna run a SLICK on the street. Get real.
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 07:31 AM
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The tc can't run a smaller wheel than 17 inches. Unless we swap the brembos for ss/sc calipers.
Old Feb 8, 2010 | 08:28 AM
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Saying that crap is rice. "ohhh if I put X amount of money in my car it will beat way more expensive cars"

It is lame and pure rice. If people only cared about cost and speed we would all drive free junk 5.0 stangs and spend less than 10k to run 9s.

It is true. And i did look into that. I enjoy more taking something that is an underdog, but a very strong platform to begin with. I was not speaking rice. I wasn't bashing anyone. However, it is true that if you put the difference of cost into our cobalts.. they would be a car others wouldn't believe. Could be more stylish... seems others would like that.. and a lot more powerful. Strip or course.. whatever you would like. Look at it this way.. if Lingenfelter wanted to play with a Cobalt SS... people would be in awe. It's not rice to say that. Your mentality of rice is your own. I can see your point though, but in a few more years when someone can buy a used SS/SC or SS/TC for 8-10 thousand and put 2-5k into it. What do you have? I'm not here to argue. We all enjoy our vehicles and what they are capable of. Where's the love?
Old Feb 8, 2010 | 08:58 AM
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Its really not surprising. Stock 350/370's will run a low to mid 13 @ 103-106ish depending on weather. A bolted and tuned SS/TC traps way higher than that and is easily a 12 second car.
Old Feb 8, 2010 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Kildore
It is true. And i did look into that. I enjoy more taking something that is an underdog, but a very strong platform to begin with. I was not speaking rice. I wasn't bashing anyone. However, it is true that if you put the difference of cost into our cobalts.. they would be a car others wouldn't believe. Could be more stylish... seems others would like that.. and a lot more powerful. Strip or course.. whatever you would like. Look at it this way.. if Lingenfelter wanted to play with a Cobalt SS... people would be in awe. It's not rice to say that. Your mentality of rice is your own. I can see your point though, but in a few more years when someone can buy a used SS/SC or SS/TC for 8-10 thousand and put 2-5k into it. What do you have? I'm not here to argue. We all enjoy our vehicles and what they are capable of. Where's the love?
very well put

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Hmmm, the Cobalt honked it off and left a bit before the Z at about 2 1/2 seconds and still didn't pass the Z until 17 to 17 1/2 seconds. How this is a win for the Cobalt ionno.
because the z ran out of steam up top and the cobalt was still pulling. thats how

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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 10:34 AM
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im suppose to race a evo x and his friends 370z
Old Feb 8, 2010 | 10:42 AM
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i was like wow these guys arent dousches when i was reading that thread. also the only cars ill race from a dig are cobalts. lol and they are the ones i beat. drivers race then
Old Feb 8, 2010 | 11:01 AM
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its very nice to see that they seem to respect the Cobalt.
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Originally Posted by YzRider452
Around here yes u are a minority. These cars are FWD, we know they dont launch well. To expect it to be even with a rwd 300hp car from a dig is RETARDED. ive done races from 0-140 before. Raced my buddies 350z up to about 130. He launched on me bout a car, but by 130 i thought he stopped racing, Found out later he was still on it. about 10cars back.
Old Feb 8, 2010 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by IhaveReturned
That is what is wrong with the newer generation, I am not claiming to be old or anything (24) but when we street race it is the middle of nowhere from a dig with the 1/4 marked off. Hell we have some roads that we get street sweeped and lay VHT down. This roll ricing crap and going up to way over what the cars trap is stupid to me. Am I really in the minority in thinking this?
Probably not...
But I haven't been around this site long.

IMHO, this whole top end thing is kinda BS - and here's why;

after you get past the quarter mile mark, normally (regaurdless as to what you're driving, you're in 4th (1:1) or higher - then going to top speed is purely torque curve & about your transmission gearing and nothing else... geared correctly, and w/o a speed limiter you could probably get about any pos up there...

BTW: if it matters, I was neither intending to imply that my car is faster (in the quarter) than a 350z, or that I do anything like what was in that video - hense the track shot in my sig.
Old Feb 8, 2010 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Kildore
It is true. And i did look into that. I enjoy more taking something that is an underdog, but a very strong platform to begin with. I was not speaking rice. I wasn't bashing anyone. However, it is true that if you put the difference of cost into our cobalts.. they would be a car others wouldn't believe. Could be more stylish... seems others would like that.. and a lot more powerful. Strip or course.. whatever you would like. Look at it this way.. if Lingenfelter wanted to play with a Cobalt SS... people would be in awe. It's not rice to say that. Your mentality of rice is your own. I can see your point though, but in a few more years when someone can buy a used SS/SC or SS/TC for 8-10 thousand and put 2-5k into it. What do you have? I'm not here to argue. We all enjoy our vehicles and what they are capable of. Where's the love?
The point is this: the aftermarket is ALWAYS cheaper. Give me a goal comparable to any production car and I can beat it for the money. Hell, with $25,000 TOTAL I could build a fox body that will walk any production car in existence in a straight line. If I had an aveo and the difference in cost between it and a cobalt ss/tc, I could not only make the aveo faster, but make the aveo WAY faster. The possibility of the cobalt being faster with x amount of money means absolutely nothing. That's his point.
Old Feb 8, 2010 | 01:17 PM
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The point is this: the aftermarket is ALWAYS cheaper. Give me a goal comparable to any production car and I can beat it for the money. Hell, with $25,000 TOTAL I could build a fox body that will walk any production car in existence in a straight line. If I had an aveo and the difference in cost between it and a cobalt ss/tc, I could not only make the aveo faster, but make the aveo WAY faster. The possibility of the cobalt being faster with x amount of money means absolutely nothing. That's his point.
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by cakeeater
The point is this: the aftermarket is ALWAYS cheaper. Give me a goal comparable to any production car and I can beat it for the money. Hell, with $25,000 TOTAL I could build a fox body that will walk any production car in existence in a straight line. If I had an aveo and the difference in cost between it and a cobalt ss/tc, I could not only make the aveo faster, but make the aveo WAY faster. The possibility of the cobalt being faster with x amount of money means absolutely nothing. That's his point.
I'm not dense enough to NOT understand that. Do you not understand my point? My point, is that whatever one drives, they choose it for a reason. It may be money limits, tastes in perforamance or styling. To each on their own. For the crowd that primarily buys Cobalts.. i'm guessing its a bit of each. In my previous post.. i made a reference to making it better in the aspect that i'm into. I'm not arguing that one could buy an old used fox body and make it a 10 or less second car. You can do that for ALOT less than $25,000. You could build 2 of the same 10 second car for that almost and possible to still have money left over.A guy at the station did just that. I think its awsome.

The aftermarket is affordable in the most part. My reference was to lingenfelter.. they have delt with vettes, TA's, i think even a VW beatle at one time. It's similar to Rousch for mustang. If you can afford it go for it. Its a retoricle answer for the most part. The answer is already given and there is no need to further "our" conversation.
Old Feb 8, 2010 | 01:57 PM
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Yes you do, just not on this forum. The 370z is a great car, but the z's haven't really been great straight line performers since the 300zx. They need forced induction again.
No you really don't. Especially on Youtube video comments involving an SS/TC. Whether the Balt wins or loses, several people are ready to bash within minutes of the vid being posted. I've seen plenty of Turbalt bashing on Honda and Mistu forums.
Old Feb 8, 2010 | 02:36 PM
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back on topic guys or another thread is going to be closed for bickering
Old Feb 12, 2010 | 02:05 PM
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that's actually a huge surprise that people actually aren't bashing the cobalt. i always go on youtube and watch videos where the cobalt gets no respect at all. so sad
Old Feb 12, 2010 | 02:43 PM
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that's actually a huge surprise that people actually aren't bashing the cobalt. i always go on youtube and watch videos where the cobalt gets no respect at all. so sad
Most hot tempered cocky young kids own imports which leads to them hating domestics. That's the price we pay for owning cars that hold their value a little better then a Honda
Old Feb 12, 2010 | 03:03 PM
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Most hot tempered cocky young kids own imports which leads to them hating domestics. That's the price we pay for owning cars that hold their value a little better then a Honda
true that my friend
Old Feb 12, 2010 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Shibito
Most hot tempered cocky young kids own imports which leads to them hating domestics. That's the price we pay for owning cars that hold their value a little better then a Honda
what the ****?

Did you just say Cobalts hold their value better than a Honda?
Old Feb 12, 2010 | 04:22 PM
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by lifeguard15
No you really don't. Especially on Youtube video comments involving an SS/TC. Whether the Balt wins or loses, several people are ready to bash within minutes of the vid being posted. I've seen plenty of Turbalt bashing on Honda and Mistu forums.
You're not shooting for the stars here. There are plenty of car communities that respect other cars. You can't expect a group of Honda guys to respect other cars because they are probably the most hated of all car communities and youtube is just a breeding ground for retardation.

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what the ****?

Did you just say Cobalts hold their value better than a Honda?
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 04:58 PM
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It looks like most of them respect the cobalts over there pretty well.
it wasnt a ricer fly by they were both still racing, but if it was a 1/4 mile the balt would have lost
Old Feb 12, 2010 | 05:40 PM
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what the ****?

Did you just say Cobalts hold their value better than a Honda?
Domestics in general.
Old Feb 12, 2010 | 05:56 PM
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ummm im sorry to say but hondas hold value better.

but on a side note.

SS/TC=1

370Z=0

/thread.. and bitching. lol
Old Feb 12, 2010 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Shibito
Domestics in general.
http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/...ook/index.html

http://www.findgascards.com/blog/top...-resale-value/

http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/list/...9/article.html

http://www.kbb.com/car-awards/best-resale-value-awards

http://editorial.autos.msn.com/artic...umentid=435652

Never ever post again!

Originally Posted by reign1
ummm im sorry to say but hondas hold value better.

but on a side note.

SS/TC=1

370Z=0

/thread.. and bitching. lol
Everyone that isn't a ricer knows the Z won.

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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 10:30 PM
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Congrats you found a bunch of values before every one knew their Toyota was out to kill them



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