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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 03:59 PM
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G@D DAMN street racers!

I know that there's allot of people that consider racing to be stupid and dangerous and I agree, but I still do it. It would be sweet if there were no cars around when you're on the highway or in town and you wanna race, but that doesn't usually happen and personally I love weaving in and out of traffic and taking corners at high speeds. This increases the danger and stupidity, but I still do it. I got flamed on a post for mentioning that I raced around bends and I just thought to myself, that I didn't buy my car to go in only a straight line, the SS is very capable in the corners and I love to test the limits. I cart raced from when I was very young until mid-teens, unfortunately it never went to the next level, but the thrill is still there. I believe it takes a certain level of skill to handle a vehicle at high speeds.

"Racing's for the track and autocross" but in reality how often can you make it to the track. I live 3 hours from a track that only has maybe 4-7 weekends out of the year that anyone is allowed to race. Autocross, I have no clue where the closest one is.

Future Plans: saving up the money to go to a driving school, which will make me a even more capable driver.

What's your opinion on street racing???
Old Nov 23, 2005 | 04:03 PM
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are you trying to start a war?
Old Nov 23, 2005 | 04:07 PM
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It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye.
Old Nov 23, 2005 | 04:27 PM
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I love weaving in and out of traffic and taking corners at high speeds.
This is the reason why people have to pay ridiculously high insurance rates.
Old Nov 23, 2005 | 04:32 PM
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honestly i would like something that resembles street racing but in an enclosed invornment. that would be cool. where u dont get in trouble cuz its all controlled but scenery and everything just reminds you of street racing that would be cool.
Old Nov 23, 2005 | 04:39 PM
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^^^^^^^^^^^

Ditto
Old Nov 23, 2005 | 04:42 PM
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This is the reason why people have to pay ridiculously high insurance rates.
ur paying for it so minus well use it. i for one also have a awkward view on street racing. if u do it or when i do it. make sure its really late at night where there are usually nobody on the roads. always use a highway and depending on the race send someone out in front of u to let u know the coast is clear. that is the safest way to street race if u ask me

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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 04:56 PM
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I'm all for a race involving twisties. IMO it's the only way to race, anyone can do straightlines. I'm not trying to start a war, I know it takes as much technique to drive a straight line as it does a twisty, but it's no fun to me. I can't really agree with the use of occupied public roads though, I don't like the idea of risking someone else's life for the sake of my amusement. Now, if there were a way to do it all legally, I'm all for it. For now, I have to wait till I can get to the track.
Old Nov 23, 2005 | 05:06 PM
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I keep my street racing to the video games. I don't feel like becoming a statistic.

I agree above that it would be cool to have a closed track for street racing or something.

Keep it to the track. No sense in putting your life, or anyone elses life in danger.
Old Nov 23, 2005 | 05:08 PM
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its always feels dangerous until someone wants to run you and your adrenaline is flowing.... i mean since i first raced someone, even my friend in his car until everytime i line up at the track, even now racing on the street i still get that adrenaline rush ( ballsac filled with ***** which is filled with testosterone) that makes me want to....have to push the limits.

....f.y.i..... i have had no accidents or moving violations since i first got my license.
Old Nov 23, 2005 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt30
ur paying for it so minus well use it.
Wow, you are pretty ignorant. The reason for the high insurance is because cars need to be fixed from accidents and people have to be compensated to being paralized or whatever it may be. I'm not saying insurance companies would drop their rates if people drove more responsibly (they are in the business to make money) but paying high insurance rates does not give you permission to drive like an idiot.
Old Nov 23, 2005 | 05:18 PM
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....f.y.i..... i have had no accidents or moving violations since i first got my license.
But then again, that doesn't mean you never will. And it doesn't even have to be you. It could be someone else who does something wrong, and where if you were going the speed limit, there wouldn't be a problem, suddenly you have to rea.... too late, your dead.
Old Nov 23, 2005 | 05:52 PM
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Im not a moderator but I started this thread cuz I wanted honest opinions (discussion) about why you do what you do (racing etc) with out a flame war.

Nick_SCCC you are correct in saying high insurance doesn't give you the right to drive like an idiot. But who's driving like an idiot?

In According to the National Highway Transportation Board,driver drowsiness and fatigue account for more than 1500 deaths a year on our highways.
In According to the National Highway Transportation Board,drunk driving accounted for more than 17,400 deaths a year on our highways.
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) reported that police listed street racing as a factor in 135 fatal crashes this year.

You might want to consider other factors as well when referencing why we all pay high insurance rates.

(all stats from 2001)
Old Nov 23, 2005 | 06:01 PM
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The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) reported that police listed street racing as a factor in 135 fatal crashes this year.
That is 135 Families who lost a son or a daughter to a preventable thing. That's 135 families who might have lost a husband, or a wife, or a mom or dad.

I sure hope that when you street race, you remember those people who's death caused hurt and sadness all around.

Ignoring them, in itself should be a crime.
Old Nov 23, 2005 | 06:12 PM
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well i don't know about you guys but i live my life a quarter mile at a time

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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 06:28 PM
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[QUOTE=GSoccer24]well i don't know about you guys but i live my life a quarter mile at a time


that post is so gonna get you in trouble lol can anyone say thread closed
Old Nov 23, 2005 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Leafy
That is 135 Families who lost a son or a daughter to a preventable thing. That's 135 families who might have lost a husband, or a wife, or a mom or dad.

I sure hope that when you street race, you remember those people who's death caused hurt and sadness all around.

Ignoring them, in itself should be a crime.
I have lost a good friend to street racing so please do not try to lecture me on the pain caused by losing someone to it. 135 families is the extreme example because for most of us who race we try not to have ppl in the car, mainly for weight, as well as extra colatoral damage. The context of that post was to widen the view of potential reasons for high insurance as well as showing that street racing is a lesser evil when compared to other road killers.
Old Nov 23, 2005 | 06:58 PM
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I have lost a good friend to street racing so please do not try to lecture me on the pain caused by losing someone to it. 135 families is the extreme example because for most of us who race we try not to have ppl in the car, mainly for weight, as well as extra colatoral damage. The context of that post was to widen the view of potential reasons for high insurance as well as showing that street racing is a lesser evil when compared to other road killers.
You try not to have people in the car to save weight???? I can't believe that you would even try to justify street racing with that argument!

Well, what about those innocent people who died after your car hit theirs???? I'm sure that is where most of those 135 comes from, not passengers who joined you.

In my opinion, there is no excuse for street racing. I don't care how far from a track you live, that doesn't make it acceptable. If it is that big of an issue, get some people together and lobby your municipal government to set aside part of the city that can be used to race on during certain times (such as a parking lot).

There are many places you can race legally. Hell, even contact the police. Maybe they'd be willing to help you find a suitable place. I'm sure they get tired of seeing people dying in street races.

DO NOT STREET RACE! It is not worth it. Besides, what are you proving? My car is faster than yours! Wow!!! There is always a faster car than you.

If you street race, smarten up. This is serious. If you kill someone that is forever. Is it really worth that???
Old Nov 23, 2005 | 07:05 PM
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are you trying to start a war?


aahhhhhummm!!!!!!!
Old Nov 23, 2005 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mi6_
You try not to have people in the car to save weight???? I can't believe that you would even try to justify street racing with that argument!
Good post!! Notice I had mentioned colateral damage = I don't want ppl to get hurt that are in my car. And I usually only race or drive agreesively when it's late, no ones on the road, and no ones in my car. It wasn't to justify street racing it was to minmize the numbers in the situation that leafy created.

Originally Posted by CobaltBurst
aahhhhhummm!!!!!!!
Funny! Can't believe you just quoted youself, try contributing, im sure you have more to say than just a smart ass comment
Old Nov 23, 2005 | 07:24 PM
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im not going to fuel this "fire" in any direction, no matter what you say, it will be flamed by the other person who views it differently. You should of thought this before posting, and just not posted, maybe you can call everyone immature? i just call it human nature nowadays....

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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by CobaltBurst
im not going to fuel this "fire" in any direction, no matter what you say, it will be flamed by the other person who views it differently. You should of thought this before posting, and just not posted, maybe you can call everyone immature? i just call it human nature nowadays....

peace
No worries and you contributed your opinion that's all I was looking for and trust me I thought about this before I posted. It took about 25 mins of reading and rereading to make sure I said things the way that i wanted to say them. I find sometimes you can't post things because ppl get to heated about everything and start just straight up insulting each other, that wasn't the point of this. As well I pretty much always speak my mind and I had something to say.
Old Nov 23, 2005 | 07:35 PM
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Wow, you are pretty ignorant. The reason for the high insurance is because cars need to be fixed from accidents and people have to be compensated to being paralized or whatever it may be. I'm not saying insurance companies would drop their rates if people drove more responsibly (they are in the business to make money) but paying high insurance rates does not give you permission to drive like an idiot.
its only high from the people who get caught. not the people who dont . They are not going to assume that the people speed. They only regulate it on the people caught. so as far as im concerned anybody here has the right to do what ever they want aslong as they dont caught. hence the insurrance premiums if you do get a ticket or an accident. but thanks for your comment. shows how classy you are

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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 07:49 PM
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No worries and you contributed your opinion that's all I was looking for and trust me I thought about this before I posted. It took about 25 mins of reading and rereading to make sure I said things the way that i wanted to say them. I find sometimes you can't post things because ppl get to heated about everything and start just straight up insulting each other, that wasn't the point of this. As well I pretty much always speak my mind and I had something to say.
I understand where your coming from and i could tell you tried not to turn it into this, but i just didnt think it was possible for people to discuss it without attacking each other =/
Old Nov 23, 2005 | 08:07 PM
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High insurance comes from a long list of factors. One being demographics. Where you live can cause high insurance. Your parents driving records can cause high insurance. Wrecks cause high insurance because your a "high risk" customer to the insurance companies. What kind of car you drive. Its cheaper to insure a Chevy Blazer, than it was for me to insure my Toyota Solara. The Chevy, a V-6 Vortex engine with cruise, tilt, alarm... etc. The Solara, a 4 cylinder, alarm, tilt, cruise, sunroof, alloy wheels, leather interior, aftermarket sound system, head unit... and still, the Blazer was cheaper. There are so many things that cause high insurance. Racing, can be one, but that falls into the category of... "Its a sports car, 17 year old kid." Its the younger age that puts us at a disadvantege. Because a majority of high school students will say, if asked, "Have you raced your car on a public street?" 7 out of 10 I bet will say yes. Im not bashing the younger age, because without them, we wouldnt have the enthusiasm about the sport/car/racing scene that we do today. Way to go younger crowd! The car that you drive dictates how much your rates will be. A Corvette, Mustang, BMW, Spyder... they are all sports cars. The you have your big V8 SUVs and Navigators and F-550 trucks. The sports cars will always be higher... just because they are a sports car, and you are more tempted to race in those, than a big SUV. All im saying is that... read your local newspaper. Read the articles about a street racing fatality and tell me what the age of the killed person is... Trust me... you will NOT be surprised.

Just saying that high insurance is caused by street racing is ignorant and a narrow-minded opinion.

I myself enjoy the thrill of racing. I fortunatley have a track near my house, about 20 minutes. But I still occasionally, race. But I know the boundry between having a little fun, and crossing over into the idiotic, adrenaline rushed stupidity of all out street racing on public streets.

This should not be a flame thread. It was simply started to hear/read others opinions. Everyone has their own opinion. Its when you argue that you find youself contradicting what you say.

Insurance is there for a purpose. Not necessarily to protect you. But to protect others. If the insurance company has a 17 year old kid, that just bought a nice red Chevy Cobalt, even going on his parents insurance, his rates will be much higher than a 22 year old, buying the same car, with the same insurance company, in the same city. Why? Because he is young, driving a fast little sports car. Simple as that!

But like I said, saying that racing causes high insurance rates, is ignorant and a narrow-minded opinion. Your looking at what happened to you, in your life. Your not looking at the full spectrum. More people are killed every year after the hours of 12 midnight, than there are deaths in street racing.

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