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Old 01-02-2012, 12:28 AM
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Red face GTI APR stage 3 vs Cobalt SS/TC E47

Also out on my cruise tonight i ran into a GTI. It was very clean and debadged. He got next to me at the light and much to my dismal failure of having 36+ psi in the tires for the twisties i got murdered out of the hole. Didn't help that i was also a little heavy with the right foot lmao!

Anyways, as you can see in the video he absolutely KILLS me off the line. My buddy sucks at video work but i start to close the gap just as we brake for the light ahead. I did not NLS as traffic wasn't happening already but oh well.

Result: Win for him!

We turned off the main road and found a clear spot to go but the road was absolutely crap, bumps, drops, potholes. Well after pacing each other for quite some time i honked it off when it seemed the road was better. Honked it off on 3 from 35 in 2nd and until the top of 3rd he was sitting at my door. I didn't pull an inch and he sat there at my door. I got more wheel spin but held him off this time.

Result: Tie.

We got to the light and apparently its a APR stage 3. Google was used a lot tonight as i didnt know anything about it. Car is full bolt on plus the APR kit, which is pretty extensive. I think the results were about right as when i had traction it was fairly close and i was able to make some ground back up on him. Either way it was by FAR the fastest GTI i have ever had the pleasure to run.

Only have video of him kicking my ass sadly as my buddy was too busy gawking to remain on film duty. We really need to have a talk with him. My brother is pretty pro behind the camera, but my buddy needs some work.

Don't mind losing to a cool guy with a damn nice GTI, now i just need my new turbo already. Oh and to reduce this god damn tire pressure.


Anyways, here is me getting killed:

GTI APR stage 3 vs Cobalt SS/TC tuned - YouTube
Old 01-02-2012, 12:35 AM
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Again, nice runs. You seem to find a lot of cool cars to run out there in that certain part of Mexico You've already stated it, but I have to say it also: Better camera man ftw
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Hahaha, yeah we got to the whataburger to grab a bite afterwards and i was like, "where is the 2nd run between me and the GTI"

Him: "Uhhh... i was just watching"

Me: /facepalm


Oh and apparently these GTIs get in excess of 400hp, good thing they weigh a lot lol.
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haha!
Old 01-02-2012, 08:12 AM
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Sorta off topic (nice run btw) but I hear that loud whistle on WOT just like you have but didn't start hearing it until I put the K&N SRI on. Did you notice the same thing? I'm trying to narrow it down.

How do you think you would've done from a dig? You should see about getting HPTuned. You might be a little "conservative".

Thanks for posting.
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I would have been better from a dig if I was running my normal tire pressure up front. It was from like 10 mph and I was a little over zealous.

As for the sound, I believe its just what the intake sounds like. I've put it on 4 cobalts for my friends and brother and they all do it. It hasn't concerned me at all. I think its just the tiny turbo + intake making the noise.
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Yeah, that's kinda what I figured on the intake. Thanks.

If you run into that GTI, please have your brother with you! :P
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yeah i ran my buddies 28 1.8t gti from a 40 and rolled out on him, so maybe its the low roll and maybe the tune when i saw the title i was expecting a slaughter remembering what i did to my friend
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Originally Posted by JacBlackSS/TC
yeah i ran my buddies 28 1.8t gti from a 40 and rolled out on him, so maybe its the low roll and maybe the tune when i saw the title i was expecting a slaughter remembering what i did to my friend
Was your friends GTI on APR stage 3? Also, I think the one in the vid is a 2.0...
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yeah i know the one he raced is newer so its the 2.0 tsi motor
but i'm not sure if he got his stuff from apr but he has the same thing, that the typical "stage 3 car" would have, i make fun of him b/c i'm like you had to get all those mods and spend all that money just to still get rolled out on lol
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Originally Posted by JacBlackSS/TC
yeah i know the one he raced is newer so its the 2.0 tsi motor
but i'm not sure if he got his stuff from apr but he has the same thing, that the typical "stage 3 car" would have, i make fun of him b/c i'm like you had to get all those mods and spend all that money just to still get rolled out on lol
The car was door to door with me from a 35ish roll still spinning a bit. I can walk him with less tire pressure. Stage 3 is a new turbo as well, not just tune and bolt ons.
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Originally Posted by ford
The car was door to door with me from a 35ish roll still spinning a bit. I can walk him with less tire pressure. Stage 3 is a new turbo as well, not just tune and bolt ons.
i know that my friend car has a garrett 28 on it same turbo thats in the apr kit
i would run him again for sure
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The Apr stage 3 claims 385 hp. On the gt28
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Originally Posted by JacBlackSS/TC
i know that my friend car has a garrett 28 on it same turbo thats in the apr kit
i would run him again for sure
I agree, my car was stronger than the GTI it just didn't show in the video due to spinning and having to baby 2nd. It's hard to see because my buddy continued to film outside the window but i stopped the pull and was creeping back when he hit the brakes.

It's half the reason i chased him down for another shot lol. Sadly the road he turned on was a torque steer nightmare because of the ruts/potholes/dips etc, car was tracking all over the place.

Out on the highway or me on like 30-31psi in the tires and i have no doubt this wouldn't have been like the video shows. However, i am man enough to post my failures as well as my successes. My right foot was way to heavy for the tires last night.
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yea they can be way less of a turd with that stuff and make about 400 off of it, look at the pricetag though, all i can say is bend over dub owner, you're getting no lube.
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Originally Posted by JacBlackSS/TC
yeah i ran my buddies 28 1.8t gti from a 40 and rolled out on him, so maybe its the low roll and maybe the tune when i saw the title i was expecting a slaughter remembering what i did to my friend
1.8t and 2.0 completely different 1.8t is a turd no matter what lmao
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exact reason i would only do a 60 roll. from 40, my car roasts the tires all the way to redline.
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Ah well I can't spend my life doing 60 rolls
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Originally Posted by ford
Ah well I can't spend my life doing 60 rolls
at least you get races! i cant get anyone to bite! EVER! i rev, or pace someone and honk it off and all they do is laugh. literally.
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Originally Posted by skip_jones
at least you get races! i cant get anyone to bite! EVER! i rev, or pace someone and honk it off and all they do is laugh. literally.
lol. Same here, minus the laughing part
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My buddies Apr stage 3 was 8 grand hahaha
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Originally Posted by RedSSbalt246
My buddies Apr stage 3 was 8 grand hahaha
WOW!! 8k?!?!?! Jeezus.
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It's hit and miss on getting runs. I got kind of lucky and am usually riding around with the Windows down and just give the other car a nod and a downshift. Usually doesn't take much more.
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if you have any vw questions feel free to ask me lol
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Originally Posted by slowjett
if you have any vw questions feel free to ask me lol
Why is the new R going to be so damn expensive and not even have more power than an Evo? That is the question i want an answer to from VW.


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