Hmm S2SS vs. S2Sti
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but total retail not including labor because he's doing it himself is in the thousands... i know he's doing rods, pistons, headwork, and a ton of other ****... but it should be good to go by July.
He's pulling the motor this weekend.
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Sounds like a kick ass build. It also sounds like about what I'd expect to pay for a turbo swap. I think it's a matter of pick your poison, build your internals for the Balt or swap your turbo for the STi. I know there'll be a thread when he gets his car done so I'll just be ont he look out for it.
with his motor build, he'll only "Slicks" away from 11's
lol! Plus Cameron (blown 4banger) needs a driver mod big time! lol
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Again, it all depends on the company's interpretation of what "Stage 2" is... please refer to my earlier post with all the pics for examples.
and yes, the cobalt is a sports car in my opinion. that is also a matter of what a particular person interprets the cobalt to be. it's a matter of opinion.
and yes, the cobalt is a sports car in my opinion. that is also a matter of what a particular person interprets the cobalt to be. it's a matter of opinion.
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Also you said earlier the STIs didn't have a catted uppipe, the 04s and 05s did have a catted uppipe.
Again, it all depends on the company's interpretation of what "Stage 2" is... please refer to my earlier post with all the pics for examples.
and yes, the cobalt is a sports car in my opinion. that is also a matter of what a particular person interprets the cobalt to be. it's a matter of opinion.
and yes, the cobalt is a sports car in my opinion. that is also a matter of what a particular person interprets the cobalt to be. it's a matter of opinion.
This is why opinions can BE WRONG! I could say hey that new 2 door kia rio(just an example) is a really nice sports car in my opinion. Does that make it a sports car??? Would anybody in their right mind call it a sports car??? Just because it is your opinion does that make it a sports car??? Be real.
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bah, you are right, but why would you put a cat back on.
Also you said earlier the STIs didn't have a catted uppipe, the 04s and 05s did have a catted uppipe.
There are only 2 companies that offer stage 2. And both are DP and tune.
This is why opinions can BE WRONG! I could say hey that new 2 door kia rio(just an example) is a really nice sports car in my opinion. Does that make it a sports car??? Would anybody in their right mind call it a sports car??? Just because it is your opinion does that make it a sports car??? Be real.
Also you said earlier the STIs didn't have a catted uppipe, the 04s and 05s did have a catted uppipe.
There are only 2 companies that offer stage 2. And both are DP and tune.
This is why opinions can BE WRONG! I could say hey that new 2 door kia rio(just an example) is a really nice sports car in my opinion. Does that make it a sports car??? Would anybody in their right mind call it a sports car??? Just because it is your opinion does that make it a sports car??? Be real.
In regards to your post on Stage 2, let me just repost what i posted earlier to prove my point that more than 2 companies offer stage 2 and that stage 2 is whatever that particular company makes it! I'll give you an A for effort though. Good Try!
BTW, if you think the Rio is a sports car, that's your opinion. I never said that it was a fact that the cobalt was a sports car, i just said it was my opinion that i think of the cobalt as a sports car.
Here's my earlier post regarding stage 2:
Stevo's right. he's refering to my WRX/STI that i owned before i got the cobalt.
The STI's fast as **** up until around 100mph then it slows down when you have to shift in to 5th gear at 98mph
Stage 2 at dynocomp is intake/turbo-back exhaust/BOV & a retune putting boost at 17-19psi depending on if you want to blend race gas or just do **** 91 octane. 91 octane gets btwn 270-280whp & 285-295 wtq.
Stage 2 at Cobb is an Access Port & TBE that gives you similar numbers maybe 5-10whp less.
Stage 2 at Forced Air Technologies (FAT) is a Turbo swap/FMIC with a GT30r Turbo & supporting mods that makes around 320-330whp & 330-340wtq.
So in short, it all depends on what "Stage 2" means to you and the company selling it.
but here's the cool thing about cobalts. they might need a motor build but you can get 350+whp on stock supercharger, and even though the STI can use the stock internals... they still need a turbo swap to get to that range
Good Kill. Depending on your mods, i believe it
The STI's fast as **** up until around 100mph then it slows down when you have to shift in to 5th gear at 98mph
Stage 2 at dynocomp is intake/turbo-back exhaust/BOV & a retune putting boost at 17-19psi depending on if you want to blend race gas or just do **** 91 octane. 91 octane gets btwn 270-280whp & 285-295 wtq.
Stage 2 at Cobb is an Access Port & TBE that gives you similar numbers maybe 5-10whp less.
Stage 2 at Forced Air Technologies (FAT) is a Turbo swap/FMIC with a GT30r Turbo & supporting mods that makes around 320-330whp & 330-340wtq.
So in short, it all depends on what "Stage 2" means to you and the company selling it.
but here's the cool thing about cobalts. they might need a motor build but you can get 350+whp on stock supercharger, and even though the STI can use the stock internals... they still need a turbo swap to get to that range
Good Kill. Depending on your mods, i believe it
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my roomate/best friend has an '06 STI with an Agency Power downpipe, Agency power titanium cat-back exhaust, Agency Power BOV, Injen wrinkle red CAI and custom tuning via Pro Motion Tuning, Fredericksburg, VA, and he made right at 300whp on their dyno. I can't remember if it was just over or just under 300whp, but i'll ask him when he gets home from work.
Makes my 2.4SS look like its standing still, but hey, I paid $12,000 less for my car and I still love the 'lil 2.4!
Makes my 2.4SS look like its standing still, but hey, I paid $12,000 less for my car and I still love the 'lil 2.4!
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my roomate/best friend has an '06 STI with an Agency Power downpipe, Agency power titanium cat-back exhaust, Agency Power BOV, Injen wrinkle red CAI and custom tuning via Pro Motion Tuning, Fredericksburg, VA, and he made right at 300whp on their dyno. I can't remember if it was just over or just under 300whp, but i'll ask him when he gets home from work.
Makes my 2.4SS look like its standing still, but hey, I paid $12,000 less for my car and I still love the 'lil 2.4!
Makes my 2.4SS look like its standing still, but hey, I paid $12,000 less for my car and I still love the 'lil 2.4!
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Wow... The 04 & 05 sti had no cat in the uppipe. the STi never had a cat in the uppipe. I would know, i've owned an 04 WRX and an 04 STI. I replaced the uppipe on the WRX, but there was no need for the STI because it was catless from the factory! please don't post **** you know nothing about.
In regards to your post on Stage 2, let me just repost what i posted earlier to prove my point that more than 2 companies offer stage 2 and that stage 2 is whatever that particular company makes it! I'll give you an A for effort though. Good Try!
BTW, if you think the Rio is a sports car, that's your opinion. I never said that it was a fact that the cobalt was a sports car, i just said it was my opinion that i think of the cobalt as a sports car.
Here's my earlier post regarding stage 2:
In regards to your post on Stage 2, let me just repost what i posted earlier to prove my point that more than 2 companies offer stage 2 and that stage 2 is whatever that particular company makes it! I'll give you an A for effort though. Good Try!
BTW, if you think the Rio is a sports car, that's your opinion. I never said that it was a fact that the cobalt was a sports car, i just said it was my opinion that i think of the cobalt as a sports car.
Here's my earlier post regarding stage 2:
And maybe I am thinking the 06 WRXs don't have a catted uppipe.
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06+ WRX's don't have catted up pipe.
and above are 3 websites where "stage 2" is more than just downpipe and tune.
let me go on nasioc and start a thread
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http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1274393
wow the thread's been up for 3 minutes already 2 replies in my favor ownt
i find it wierd because most of the time Subaru owners are known for their kindness & being laid back compared to Evo dicks but nasioc proves that wrong! they're equally bad! lmao
wow the thread's been up for 3 minutes already 2 replies in my favor
ownti find it wierd because most of the time Subaru owners are known for their kindness & being laid back compared to Evo dicks
but nasioc proves that wrong! they're equally bad! lmao
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it seems everytime an sti is referenced I end up showing this info,
04-07 STI:
STAGE-2
"Unleashed"
Flywheel Power:
376HP
385TQ
-APS 3.0" Exhaust
*Opt. Cat ($371)
-APS BOV
-APS Cold Air
-ECUTeK Flash
granted there may be different stages from different companies and some consider a simple intake upgrade a stage but at least it gives a general idea plus dyno.
http://dynocomp.com/subaru.php?view=subaru
04-07 STI:
STAGE-2
"Unleashed"
Flywheel Power:
376HP
385TQ
-APS 3.0" Exhaust
*Opt. Cat ($371)
-APS BOV
-APS Cold Air
-ECUTeK Flash
granted there may be different stages from different companies and some consider a simple intake upgrade a stage but at least it gives a general idea plus dyno.
http://dynocomp.com/subaru.php?view=subaru
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http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1274393
wow the thread's been up for 3 minutes already 2 replies in my favor ownt
i find it wierd because most of the time Subaru owners are known for their kindness & being laid back compared to Evo dicks but nasioc proves that wrong! they're equally bad! lmao
wow the thread's been up for 3 minutes already 2 replies in my favor
ownti find it wierd because most of the time Subaru owners are known for their kindness & being laid back compared to Evo dicks
but nasioc proves that wrong! they're equally bad! lmao
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it seems everytime an sti is referenced I end up showing this info,
04-07 STI:
STAGE-2
"Unleashed"
Flywheel Power:
376HP
385TQ
-APS 3.0" Exhaust
*Opt. Cat ($371)
-APS BOV
-APS Cold Air
-ECUTeK Flash
granted there may be different stages from different companies and some consider a simple intake upgrade a stage but at least it gives a general idea plus dyno.
http://dynocomp.com/subaru.php?view=subaru
04-07 STI:
STAGE-2
"Unleashed"
Flywheel Power:
376HP
385TQ
-APS 3.0" Exhaust
*Opt. Cat ($371)
-APS BOV
-APS Cold Air
-ECUTeK Flash
granted there may be different stages from different companies and some consider a simple intake upgrade a stage but at least it gives a general idea plus dyno.
http://dynocomp.com/subaru.php?view=subaru
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no worries dude. like i said, it's all about how the company interprets it. but i agree, cobb stage 2 is probably the most accurate description of what stage 2 should be.
PS dynocomp isn't only a "local tuner shop" they are a racing team in the time attack series and have one of the fastest time attack STI's out there.
PS dynocomp isn't only a "local tuner shop" they are a racing team in the time attack series and have one of the fastest time attack STI's out there.