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Omnigear 11-11-2010 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by marca34 (Post 5366111)
gonna run a higher meth mix 70/30 and retune and go from there.

90/10 ^_^

InfraRedline 11-11-2010 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by Marca34 (Post 5366071)
Im not on stock DP. Its Pacesetter to a 3inch downpipe and magnaflow 2.5 catback. Having those 2 spacers change the boost mostly likely a half a psi. My car was knocking and my front o2 sensor is dead so the car fueling went haywire. I was getting a 11AFR. But im not complaining i held my own.

Oh no I wasnt knocking your car or anything, you did really good. I got love for my fellow TVS'ers:)

Marca34 11-11-2010 10:43 PM

oh no i wasnt trying to be defensive just giving a more detail description of my ghetto zost. LOL Im TVS all the way.

InfraRedline 11-12-2010 01:54 AM

I got ya:beer:

Do they have E85 near you by chance?

SOHC24powa 11-12-2010 04:46 AM


Originally Posted by RYRO14 (Post 5366329)
The stage 3 SRT-4 has a larger turbo, this car traps like 117 I was told.

dont forget his wastegate. agp wastegate holds peak boost fairly close to redline.

SuperchargedSS 11-12-2010 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by ss88 (Post 5366311)
I thought the t/c would have taken the srt-4. Really good race.

Dude, it was a stage 3 SRT, aftermarket turbo yada yada... thats pretty fukin impressive for the TC. The TVS on the other hand..

SuperchargedSS 11-12-2010 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by Marca34 (Post 5366071)
Im not on stock DP. Its Pacesetter to a 3inch downpipe and magnaflow 2.5 catback. Having those 2 spacers change the boost mostly likely a half a psi. My car was knocking and my front o2 sensor is dead so the car fueling went haywire. I was getting a 11AFR. But im not complaining i held my own.

debatable... :lol:

Marca34 11-12-2010 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by InfraRedline (Post 5367243)
I got ya:beer:

Do they have E85 near you by chance?

Yea the nearest station is about 30mins from my house. Maybe one day ill take the time to get a tank of it and tune.

Marca34 11-12-2010 10:48 AM

There will be a part to of this video coming soon.

Supercharged Guy 11-12-2010 10:49 AM

Very good runs OP

I mean yeah you lost but who cars, it was a friendly race and plus you can't win everytime :twothumbs

Just wait untill you go big turbo..

Marca34 11-12-2010 10:52 AM

If Ryland had the map sensor he could hold 22 psi. He spikes 22 then hold 20.

jmfselu 11-12-2010 11:07 AM

very nice vid, great races

383_Stroker 11-12-2010 11:12 AM

The second tvs race is much better ;-).. where you start at the same time.. and don't hit the limiter.. :lol:

BYT*SS*TURBO 11-12-2010 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by Marca34 (Post 5366188)
Remember a stg 3 skittle is a TDO5 not the stock TD04. And if the TC had the 3 bar map sensors and held 22 PSI he could of did better. But hey it was a friendly race to compare.

ummm....what? lol.....

Marca34 11-12-2010 11:20 AM

I have to granny shift because the stock clutch wont hold between shifts really quick.

ebristol 11-12-2010 11:25 AM

You guys should have put the TVS up agaist then SS/TC. :)

soundjunky 11-12-2010 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by CudaJoe (Post 5365103)
really? A neon is that fast at stage 3? How much power are the two cobalts making?

I've found of late that alot of guys (especially in this crowd) underestimate SRT4's...

It's not unusual to see them running 11secopnd quarter miles around here (3,380ft/aprox 5,000ft DA)...

That's not to say the Cobalts can't beat them..


Originally Posted by ralliartist (Post 5364940)
I hate being overseas. I can't watch it because it has music from Sony Entertainment.

Can you re-upload it without the music?

I could download it then try to email it, or host it somewhere where you could access it?

lemme know...

bykryder83 11-12-2010 11:37 AM

Yes the stage 3 srt4 is very quick! Nice vids and runs tho.......god I love turbos lol

soundjunky 11-12-2010 11:43 AM

oh yeah...

I forgot to mention my favorite part of the video;


This video was shot on a closed course somewhere in Mexico
BAH-HA-HA!!!

CudaJoe 11-12-2010 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by soundjunky (Post 5367811)
I've found of late that alot of guys (especially in this crowd) underestimate SRT4's...

It's not unusual to see them running 11secopnd quarter miles around here (3,380ft/aprox 5,000ft DA)...

That's not to say the Cobalts can't beat them..

no No. I know they are fast I just didnt understand what was meant by the "Stage 3" fast n furious lingo :lol:

I would just say "Big turbo neon" not stage 3 neon.

Supercharged Guy 11-12-2010 01:11 PM

Any car can be fast with big turbo...

So were not underestimating them (srt4) but simply saying that "Stage 3" should have been said to be big turbo

I want to see rematch when balt has big turbo :lol:

ecotecturbo 11-12-2010 01:21 PM

Mopar stage 3 srt4s make about 380whp. Both cobalts did good but id say the tvs car should be on e85 and some more tuning and then do a rematch.

InfraRedline 11-12-2010 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by Marca34 (Post 5367676)
Yea the nearest station is about 30mins from my house. Maybe one day ill take the time to get a tank of it and tune.

Bring like 10 gas cans so you can always run E :lol: Its damn good stuff

383_Stroker 11-12-2010 01:26 PM

A mopar stage 3 kit for an SRT is a large turbo by definition.. :lol:

They aren't like the cobalts where stage 3 can be anything from a 3.0" pulley from CA to a Harrop from ottp..lol


The Mopar Performance Stage 3R Turbo Upgrade Kit ($4199 MSRP) was the hottest bolt-on--the "R" is for "race only," so keep it off of public roads, wink wink. The kit is essentially a big Mitsubishi TD05 turbo with the necessary electronic and fueling enhancements to make it work.

PrincessTurbo 11-12-2010 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by importkiller (Post 5366127)
Damn I was thinking the TC would do better.

That SRT has more in it than what he thinks , thats BS


I've raced 20g SRt-4's with 1000cc injectors, sheppard trans, running ethanol granted his PCM is a stage 1 diablo tuned and he fried his original so obviously he wasn't running full power but come on it wasn't like it was lacking a ton of power. ( impedance issues )


A lot of stage 3's here also and I haven't had one of them pull me... these aren't just encounters these are my friends with these cars.


All that is different on my ride is the FMIC and a CIA Cold air intake.. My car pulls stage 3's pretty hard too..


I donno man either driver mod or something isn't right , your car should be pulling a lot more on that stage 3 if indeed it really is just stage 3..


Originally Posted by ecotecturbo (Post 5368104)
Mopar stage 3 srt4s make about 380whp. Both cobalts did good but id say the tvs car should be on e85 and some more tuning and then do a rematch.

Yeah running meth and e85 with about every bolt on imaginable ...


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