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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 11:57 AM
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the first thing im wondering how a little (1.3L?) geo would have enough backpressure to run after putting an aftermarket muffler on. second thing is i want to hear it, probably sounds like a rattling tin can. third is...why would you waste your gas?
because it was funny, and the guy was really pressing me into it and was scary.

Originally Posted by John2k5
Where the hell in Florida are you. I have multiple friends down here that have been caught street racing. One has been caught 2 or 3 times. All that happened was he lost his license for 2 years i think it was on his last time being caught. He never had his car crushed. Not saying that it doesn't happen, but down here where I live I haven't heard of it happening to anybody.

also http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/22/street.racing/ says

Florida is one of the few places with laws targeting street racing, but conviction is difficult because prosecutors must prove there was competition, says Miller, the Florida trooper.

Many cases are prosecuted under reckless driving or speeding statutes, experts say, and that makes tracking illegal street racing difficult.

It also makes finding appropriate deterrents difficult.


and also don't forget how the Florida Street Racing Law Was Found Unconstitutional

It's all over the local forums and was on the news. Due to the vagueness of sunny Florida's laws that prohibit street racing, and some dude in a Corvette taking his "Unauthorized Speed Contest" ticket to court, the statute has been found to be unconstitutional.

Legal garbage: http://www.facdl.org/MembersOnly/Mot...0v%20Wells.pdf

The worst they can charge you for now is Reckless Driving. Still bad but nowhere NEAR the penalties for Drag Racing.

Also note that the Drag Racing penalties are far more severe than DUI penalties, despite the fact that DUI's kill 2500 people a year here, whereas street racing claims less than 1% of that figure.

The statute is so vague that virtually any car speeding or even accelerating from a traffic light next to another car could be charged with street racing.

yea really man, i was gonna say we dont go to jail for 50 years and get our cars crushed where im from....

AND. its not like i just go out and street race everyday of my life, that is a once in a MONTH kinda deal.

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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 12:06 PM
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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 12:08 PM
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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 12:15 PM
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Im trying to figure out how a car with 63 monster HP when it was brand new can lose control, LOL.
Old Feb 15, 2008 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SSSCEnthusiast
Im trying to figure out how a car with 63 monster HP when it was brand new can lose control, LOL.
Below 60mph above all things!
Old Feb 15, 2008 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SSSCEnthusiast
Im trying to figure out how a car with 63 monster HP when it was brand new can lose control, LOL.
Flat tire, something in road, retard driver, swerved cuz animal comes out in road, something hits the car could all be factors, but in this situation im going to go with retard driver.
Old Feb 15, 2008 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by John2k5
Flat tire, something in road, retard driver, swerved cuz animal comes out in road, something hits the car could all be factors, but in this situation im going to go with retard driver.
Retartded drivers FTL
Old Feb 15, 2008 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by John2k5
Where the hell in Florida are you. I have multiple friends down here that have been caught street racing. One has been caught 2 or 3 times. All that happened was he lost his license for 2 years i think it was on his last time being caught. He never had his car crushed. Not saying that it doesn't happen, but down here where I live I haven't heard of it happening to anybody.

also http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/22/street.racing/ says

Florida is one of the few places with laws targeting street racing, but conviction is difficult because prosecutors must prove there was competition, says Miller, the Florida trooper.

Many cases are prosecuted under reckless driving or speeding statutes, experts say, and that makes tracking illegal street racing difficult.

It also makes finding appropriate deterrents difficult.


and also don't forget how the Florida Street Racing Law Was Found Unconstitutional

It's all over the local forums and was on the news. Due to the vagueness of sunny Florida's laws that prohibit street racing, and some dude in a Corvette taking his "Unauthorized Speed Contest" ticket to court, the statute has been found to be unconstitutional.

Legal garbage: http://www.facdl.org/MembersOnly/Mot...0v%20Wells.pdf

The worst they can charge you for now is Reckless Driving. Still bad but nowhere NEAR the penalties for Drag Racing.

Also note that the Drag Racing penalties are far more severe than DUI penalties, despite the fact that DUI's kill 2500 people a year here, whereas street racing claims less than 1% of that figure.

The statute is so vague that virtually any car speeding or even accelerating from a traffic light next to another car could be charged with street racing.
Well I won't street race after seeing some one the people and pictures that I saw. If you want to race on the street, go right for it. Your decision.

But Even if what you say is true, I'd like to keep it at the track and I would hope you agree on that.
Old Feb 15, 2008 | 01:34 PM
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well...

I thought the story was hilarious but obivously i'm in the minority, lol
Old Feb 15, 2008 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Deathcult
Well I won't street race after seeing some one the people and pictures that I saw. If you want to race on the street, go right for it. Your decision.

But Even if what you say is true, I'd like to keep it at the track and I would hope you agree on that.
Thats fine if you don't want to race on the street bc just like u said its also your decision. What I say is true and thats why I included links for people that wanted to deny it. I like the idea of the track, but at the same time I have heard of people literally having a beer in one hand and shifting gears with the other at one of our Florida tracks. Also at that track they didn't check any of the cars to see if they were in good/safe operational condition. Yes you could only line up against your friend at the track so you didn't have worry about everything being safe, but I personally would rather not have wonder if its safe when I line up next to someone. To me that track had the possibility of being as dangerous if not more dangerous than the street depending on where you race at on the street.

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well...

I thought the story was hilarious but obivously i'm in the minority, lol
I didn't find it hilarious, because the owner of the metro could have been seriously hurt. I know that is a chance you take when you street race and it happens, but if your gonna race on the street be as safe as possible don't race in traffic or where a car could pull out without you having enough time to stop or where the road isn't wide enough, etc. I am glad the op did the right thing and checked on him before leaving and anyone who says they would have done anymore than check on the person and call and ambulance if he was hurt is lying, because then you run the risk of yourself getting in trouble for doing something illegal.

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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 01:50 PM
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Yeah that night was kinda crazy John.
It was great that they didn't check my car but at the same time you think as you line up with some guy you don't know.
"What is this guys an idiot and blows up the car? I'm only 10 feet away."
So like I've said before.
Everything has a good and a bad side.
All you can do is look at the situation and make your own descion.
Old Feb 15, 2008 | 01:51 PM
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So your saying when racing on a track where if you crash you are in a controlled environment is as dangerous as racing on the street where you could take an innocent life with you if you crash.


So explain to me how dangerous is the track again man.
Old Feb 15, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Deathcult
So your saying when racing on a track where if you crash you are in a controlled environment is as dangerous as racing on the street where you could take an innocent life with you if you crash.


So explain to me how dangerous is the track again man.
Please explain how I would do take an innocent life on the street if I am racing on a back road at midnight-2am that maybe 10 cars come down a week, especially when the 1/4 is marked off with white spray paint and they throw a flare at the end and there are no side streets at all for at least 1/2 a mile and a car is over a mile down the road with a nextel beeping back and forth to tell you if its clear before you go. You can take a life on the strip that came to do it legally and lined up next to someone that was drinking all night loses control and hits the other car and kills the driver. At that track they didn't make you roll down your windows or ever smell your breathe. In fact I saw someone drinking oj with vodka that was in an oj bottle that got at least 4 passes that night. Fact is racing is never safe at the track or on the street at anytime someone could lose control and hit the other driver and kill them, its doesn't matter how much you check a cars mechanical ability's if the person in the car can't operate it correctly.
Old Feb 15, 2008 | 02:04 PM
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Ummm,

You can take an innocent life at a track to.
Did you go to the Bradenton Track Feb. 1st?
I had some concerns but went ahead and raced.
There was no car inspection. People we drinking and driving. One guy went down the 1/4 with a beer bottle in his lap.

So to elaporate Danger is danger.
I could die from losing my footing and failing the wrong way.
Every day you wake up you take the risk of death.
No one knows when they're going to die. So if you don't enjoy life cuz "You might die" whats the point.
As long as you don't endanger others, ie. racing thru traffic and areas that have high traffic flow or blind spots for people to pull out then you as to say from another member:

Live life for the moment and when your dead you'll know you died for doing what you did with a smile.
Old Feb 15, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by John2k5
I didn't find it hilarious, because the owner of the metro could have been seriously hurt. I know that is a chance you take when you street race and it happens, but if your gonna race on the street be as safe as possible don't race in traffic or where a car could pull out without you having enough time to stop or where the road isn't wide enough, etc. I am glad the op did the right thing and checked on him before leaving and anyone who says they would have done anymore than check on the person and call and ambulance if he was hurt is lying, because then you run the risk of yourself getting in trouble for doing something illegal.
this is true, I don't necessarily care if someone injures themselves doing something they've chosen to do though. its when they hurt other innocent people that it grabs my attention...

being that we knew he was okay and the fact that he was blaming the other driver for losing control of a Geo made it funny to me.

maybe i'm just insensitive, oh well
Old Feb 15, 2008 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by IonNinja
this is true, I don't necessarily care if someone injures themselves doing something they've chosen to do though. its when they hurt other innocent people that it grabs my attention...

being that we knew he was okay and the fact that he was blaming the other driver for losing control of a Geo made it funny to me.

maybe i'm just insensitive, oh well
guys don't say insensitive lol the part about blaming the other drive is kinda funny since its so stupid unless the other driver swerves at you or hits you its not his fault you wrecked.
Old Feb 15, 2008 | 02:32 PM
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I think we should just leave this be and go to the drag strip now lol.


You guys near orlando?
Old Feb 15, 2008 | 02:41 PM
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We'll be at the Kumho Street Warriorz event in bradenton March 1'st don't know if his Trans Am will be out of the paint shop yet they have a back order of cars to work on so it dosen't look good.
Old Feb 15, 2008 | 02:47 PM
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how far away is that from orlando? im in the middle of orlando and daytona in a city called deltona.

whats the Kumho street warriorz?
Old Feb 15, 2008 | 02:49 PM
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http://www.bradentonmotorsports.com/

It's in Bradenton of SR-64 over near Tampa about a hour drive for us so two hours for you.
Old Feb 15, 2008 | 03:21 PM
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Im in jville
Old Feb 15, 2008 | 03:24 PM
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holy crap thats far lmfao.
Old Feb 15, 2008 | 03:41 PM
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guys don't say insensitive lol
hey I'm at work I have to watch my language

it was the nicest way I could put it!
Old Feb 15, 2008 | 03:52 PM
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well...

I thought the story was hilarious but obivously i'm in the minority, lol
X2!!!
Old Feb 15, 2008 | 04:49 PM
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I'm with ninja and sk8er on this. It reminds me of 'worlds most dangerous animals' i was watching the other day, I kept busting when people got attacked, chased and trampled by bulls or elephants. Say what you will about my attitude, but if you get into a ring with an animal , theres only 1 of 2 things that are gonna happen: 1-he plays with you and you have a good time or 2- he rams the **** outta you. then bites you and you dont have a good time.

Just like this case, you race and one of two things'll happen: 1- it goes well or 2-it doesn't. Nobody can really be suprised by this.

If you go out looking for trouble, you'll eventually find it.



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