The 03-04 Mach 1 is pretty much the 99-01 Cobra. It was a 4V engine with 305-320 HP and 317-335 ft-lbs of trq. One would think that we would know more about the car that we dislike so much. Truth is, don't you research what the car is capable of in stock formation before you ask the person to race? You wouldn't want to get owned by a car you dislike so much.

I personally don't dislike the Mustang as much as most. I actually prefer a Ford over a Chevrolet. The only Mustang's I don't care for are the fox bodies.

Even if that 2V had a tune on it. You can't just slap a Cobra tune on it and hope that it has close to the same horsepower as the Cobra does, that is kind of ricerish, right?

I have 2 friends with the turbo Cobalt and they are both GMS1. They pull harder than that on the 99-04 2V Mustang, especially from a roll because that is where our car shines.

Edit: Before anyone says that the 4V Mustangs are slow, I beg to differ. I have a friend that owns a 2003 Mach 1 and it is pretty fast. Loud too...

I'm just gonna see where this goes because I'm pretty sure the mod list is big for a 2v but the driver didnt want to share and I was generalizing the speed of the gt that I raced because it lost its spunk on the top end.

Im pretty sure stage one will have the same out come for the tc's if not 1 car distance nls may give you 3 cars but depends how hard the tune pushes the car.

My opinion stands that this is still one of the fastest 2v I have raced.

This is more like what a tuned Cobalt does against a Mustang. This is a tuned Cobalt versus a Mach 1.

It's not even a contest, and just toys with the Mach 1, intercepting the Mach 1's flyby attempt and then pulling it despite having two people in the car versus the Mustang's one.

Cobalt SS vs. Mach 1 - YouTube

Fox bodies are some of the lightest and best looking mustangs.. sigh.

You should be pulling a mach 1 at 20psi all day. I dynoed 342 torque at 4000 rpm on a 20 psi trifecta tune, mach 1 go bye bye from a roll or dig.

Maybe your friend is withholding some mod info from you...?...

I know when cobra started production. And i also know that ford did not even produce a 2000 mustang 4V cobra due to super low dyno number's from the 99 EXCEPT for the cobra R in 2000(which was a 5.4L) which was the only cobra for that year. A Bullit mustang has the SAME 4V 320Hp and 317 TQ 4V when it was produced. Not knowing the exact mods on a 2V Gt can make it a sleeper but in stock form the 4V would put the rape down... Still him being a tuned TC he should have put the smack down on that 2V from a roll. The bullitt was underrated and meant to be just that from the 01-03 years. There is no way it put down 265+ WHP and was rated at only 260 at the crank while putting down 300+ Tq at the wheels. Which was more HP/TQ than a regular 2V would have at the crank.

The Bullitt did in fact NOT have a 4V like you said. It is the same standard 2V with a few things done to it to up it 5 HP. Am I saying that the horsepower claims are accurate? No because I doubt that adding an enlarged twin-bore throttle body, aluminum intake manifold, and high-flow mufflers only add 5 HP on top of the 260 from the base 4.6.

The Bullitt was made as a tribute to the movie Bullitt from 1968. Correct me if the year is wrong.

Yeah after alittle reasearch it is just a hopped up 2V in the bullitt my bad but i know for sure there was no 2000 4V 4.6 cobra for north america as the 100 units they did make for 2000 were sent down under! I was thinking of the mach 1's and the bullitt had the same left over 4V. But it was just the mach 1 My bad! Still his tuned Tc should have put the smack down as even a re-gear in the 2V mustang only really helps the launch and FWD has the advantage from roll!

Bit of misinformation here some might of been cleared up but unsure.

The bullitt was a 2v but featured many cobra pieces though some of it was restyled. Different C pillar. Cobra brakes. Cobra seats (redone in a retro pattern). More aggressive exhaust. Different intake manifold. But they were barely faster than the standard 2V.

The 99-01 Cobra's were 320hp. Due to an overly restrictive exhaust and flashings left in the factory manifold they made the same power in 99 as a 99 2v. With the fixes they ran much stronger.

Stock 99-01 Cobras have been seen running 13.3's consistently.
Mach 1 5spds have run high 12's showroom stock. However the autos are almost a full second slower.

Ford used a weaker rotating assembly and a lower redline in the auto's. Also the gearing and power loss from the auto took its share of power as well. The Mach 1's do use a similar 4v to that of the cobra. But they use a different exhaust cam to give them a slightly different powerband. Gearing is a 4V's best friend though. Full exhaust intake and geared Mach1/Cobra's can scream and its not uncommon to see them running anything from 3.73 to 4.56 gearing. And if they have the Ford FR500 cams they will easily scream uptop and pull on a fully bolted LS1 (not heads or cam though) Fbody.


Cobra models include.

93 Cobra (245hp though underrated 5.0L)
93 Cobra R (same as above)
94-95 Cobra (believe its the same 245hp 5.0L)
95 Cobra R (300hp 5.8L)
96-98 Cobra (305hp 4.6)
99-01 Cobra (320hp 4.6)
00 Cobra R (385hp 5.4)
03-04 Cobra (390hp 4.6 SC)

and then obviously the GT500's from there on....

Also stock 2v gt 5spds (99-04) are capable of 13.7's bone stock.

And this is how a 2v stacks up against a tuned Cobalt...
Turbo 2v vs Cobalt SS/TC - YouTube

^ Okay buddy... you're an idiot. You wasted your time to create a profile to show us a video of a turbocharged 2V Rustang vs a stock turbo Cobalt that has a tune.

I LOL @ you!

That Mustang is mine...

Looks shitty

Whats your point? You spent thousands and the cobalt spent $250? Run a SS T/C that has a bigger turbo.

Or full bolt ons even.:lol:

I would love to. But A: it's almost winter here and the car is stored, B: it wasn't just a "tuned" cobalt, he had other miscellaneous mods like charge piping, intercooler, exhaust, etc., so I think that's more than $250, but you are correct, no where near my expenses. Oh and C: no on around here is dumb enough to put that money into a Cobalt :P
Anyway, me vs that Cobalt was a shit and giggles run..

:poke:
See above video...lol

Fair enough...but none of those mods add any power. Intercooler maybe 5hp.

They will all add some with the tune adjusted for it. You'd be surprised how well a more efficient intercooler will help lower IAT's.

Prolly shouldn't get too cocky on here :guns: There are plenty of lolcobalts on here that will trash your car as it stands now. Remember....always somebody faster....

Thats good. Always someone faster. Just hope they are street cars that trap mid 130s on pump 93 ;)

Certainly not me. You should look up some of the vids on here. And if your saying your car runs 130. Not from that vid xD more like 118.. All in good fun tho man..my panties nvr get all twisted up in a bunch.

I will play but not with my cobalt :guns:

It kinda does...
Turbo 2v quarter mile 3 - YouTube

Fastest trap was 132.12

You trap 130mph, go run a Cobalt with a PTE 5758 or a 6758 ZFR turbo. It takes about 450-500whp in a Cobalt to trap 130. :twothumbs