pookie025 infiniboost vs 30r lsj?
What you don't realize is that in the real world all those pretty numbers you think should automatically happen arent as easily attained as you construe in your mind.
First off, I don't take anything a shop car does into consideration.
Cmillers times are crazy, but I think he's running small wheels and slicks. Combine that with great conditions and his times are good. He's also spinning that turbo to the moon and power drops off like a rock towards redline.
The other times have high traps, then drop off to 105mph. There's no consistancy to make judgement. Revhigh is running meth/alk (band-aid) and probably 26+psi. The 30r LSJ is running 20-22psi and power doesn't drop like a rock because the turbo is being used efficently.
Cmillers times are crazy, but I think he's running small wheels and slicks. Combine that with great conditions and his times are good. He's also spinning that turbo to the moon and power drops off like a rock towards redline.
The other times have high traps, then drop off to 105mph. There's no consistancy to make judgement. Revhigh is running meth/alk (band-aid) and probably 26+psi. The 30r LSJ is running 20-22psi and power doesn't drop like a rock because the turbo is being used efficently.
This guy has a 30r, WTF is he doing running mid 12's at only 112mph? Lame. I wouldn't go buy a power adder that cost well over grand by itself (that's not including the other parts, i.e. intercooler, piping, wastegate, manifolds, etc.) and make the same power as some stock blower LSJ's and some stock turbo LNF's. Kind of embarrasing if you ask me.
Because you also own a Cobalt, so you hear 30r and you probably think to yourself it should make 500whp.
What you don't realize is that in the real world all those pretty numbers you think should automatically happen arent as easily attained as you construe in your mind.
What you don't realize is that in the real world all those pretty numbers you think should automatically happen arent as easily attained as you construe in your mind.
It can be done with far less money, and not even having to upgrade power adders.
I'm not in a place to try and make this argument. I'm in Germany, my car is in Nebraska. But I would beg to differ.
Last edited by ralliartist; Oct 8, 2009 at 04:57 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
You act as if its so easy to get a stock blower/turbo Cobalt into the mid 12's. Thats why no one has done it with the LSJ, and only 1 person has a quicker time in the LNF.
If it was so easy everyone would just keep the stock **** and run it to the ragged edge and everyone would run mid 12's.
You have a list where ONE person has run faster out of how many people total on the lists? 100? 200?
Your logic is seriously flawed.
If it was so easy everyone would just keep the stock **** and run it to the ragged edge and everyone would run mid 12's.
You have a list where ONE person has run faster out of how many people total on the lists? 100? 200?
Your logic is seriously flawed.
maybe my expectations are too high.
My logic, which may be flawed, but seems pretty simple in my complex mind: I ran a mid 13 barely modded, I ran a low 13 with bolt ons. I haven't had the chance to run again after the head work. The car could have hit 12's with just a few minor things here and there with just the bolt ons.
30r? pretty good size turbo, 12.5 is it?
My logic, which may be flawed, but seems pretty simple in my complex mind: I ran a mid 13 barely modded, I ran a low 13 with bolt ons. I haven't had the chance to run again after the head work. The car could have hit 12's with just a few minor things here and there with just the bolt ons.
30r? pretty good size turbo, 12.5 is it?
30r should run mid 11s no problem. Turn key and go, if it doesnt, it's an epic failure.
^completely understandable. I just wouldn't be happy even on "low" boost or that "conservative" setting.
sorry for being ignorant. I was raised in the south.
sorry for being ignorant. I was raised in the south.
Last edited by ralliartist; Oct 8, 2009 at 05:15 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
You act as if its so easy to get a stock blower/turbo Cobalt into the mid 12's. Thats why no one has done it with the LSJ, and only 1 person has a quicker time in the LNF.
If it was so easy everyone would just keep the stock **** and run it to the ragged edge and everyone would run mid 12's.
You have a list where ONE person has run faster out of how many people total on the lists? 100? 200?
Your logic is seriously flawed.
If it was so easy everyone would just keep the stock **** and run it to the ragged edge and everyone would run mid 12's.
You have a list where ONE person has run faster out of how many people total on the lists? 100? 200?
Your logic is seriously flawed.
HA. Show me one m62 car making that kinda power, and show me 1 lnf car that makes that power for more than 100rpm.
Granted a 30R is more capable than that. Personally I ran similar times with a much smaller turbo. But, the thought of turn key and go 11's is ignorant to say the least.
What'd you realize your car didn't stand a chance?
First off, I don't take anything a shop car does into consideration.
Cmillers times are crazy, but I think he's running small wheels and slicks. Combine that with great conditions and his times are good. He's also spinning that turbo to the moon and power drops off like a rock towards redline.
The other times have high traps, then drop off to 105mph. There's no consistancy to make judgement. Revhigh is running meth/alk (band-aid) and probably 26+psi. The 30r LSJ is running 20-22psi and power doesn't drop like a rock because the turbo is being used efficently.
Cmillers times are crazy, but I think he's running small wheels and slicks. Combine that with great conditions and his times are good. He's also spinning that turbo to the moon and power drops off like a rock towards redline.
The other times have high traps, then drop off to 105mph. There's no consistancy to make judgement. Revhigh is running meth/alk (band-aid) and probably 26+psi. The 30r LSJ is running 20-22psi and power doesn't drop like a rock because the turbo is being used efficently.
First off, I don't take anything a shop car does into consideration.
Cmillers times are crazy, but I think he's running small wheels and slicks. Combine that with great conditions and his times are good. He's also spinning that turbo to the moon and power drops off like a rock towards redline.
The other times have high traps, then drop off to 105mph. There's no consistancy to make judgement. Revhigh is running meth/alk (band-aid) and probably 26+psi. The 30r LSJ is running 20-22psi and power doesn't drop like a rock because the turbo is being used efficently.
Cmillers times are crazy, but I think he's running small wheels and slicks. Combine that with great conditions and his times are good. He's also spinning that turbo to the moon and power drops off like a rock towards redline.
The other times have high traps, then drop off to 105mph. There's no consistancy to make judgement. Revhigh is running meth/alk (band-aid) and probably 26+psi. The 30r LSJ is running 20-22psi and power doesn't drop like a rock because the turbo is being used efficently.
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omg i cant wait!!!!!!!!!!!!! i want this dude to like come in this fourm. i dont want any beef or any thing i love racing, and ill go to ny to race him/meet him
his peak boost is 22psi. he HAD meth on the car until last week when he came over, and i unhooked it and put it back on a none meth map. why? wasn't working. when he ran last spring on those 12 second runs. he did not have meth on the car.
why do i know this? i am the one who tunes his car.
let me correct you on this one.
his peak boost is 22psi. he HAD meth on the car until last week when he came over, and i unhooked it and put it back on a none meth map. why? wasn't working. when he ran last spring on those 12 second runs. he did not have meth on the car.
why do i know this? i am the one who tunes his car.
his peak boost is 22psi. he HAD meth on the car until last week when he came over, and i unhooked it and put it back on a none meth map. why? wasn't working. when he ran last spring on those 12 second runs. he did not have meth on the car.
why do i know this? i am the one who tunes his car.



