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Old 05-28-2006, 10:05 AM
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raced two ss sc's the other day

Ok so thursday night i was stopped at an red light and an copper colored sc pulls next to me, its all stock but he wants to run so i was like yea sure i always wanted to see where my car would hang with an s/c. Ok so the light turns green and i get an really nice launch and he's sitting there spinng so i pull about an car length ahead of him and i stay there untill about 75 when i slowed down because of traffic, So i beat him mostly because of the launch. But last night i was hanging out where theres an lot of racing going on, and i met a guy who is an memeber of this forum ( he said his sn was ranger on dubs) and had bought and sc about an week ago. I was glad to see someone who has an ss around here that acctually knows something about the car. Well anyways we go to leave and he wants to run from and 20 roll so we do and the first time i miss 2nd But we do it again and he slowly jumps about an car length ahead and stays there untill we hit about 85 and then we stop. So at the end of the race my front bumper was right by his back bumper, not bad if you ask me, being that the sc's are supposed to dyno at 215 whp stock. I'll be ordering my vector ecu tune this wednesday and i know i would have easily gotten him then. But i am hoping to get in on video if he doesnt care.
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this is for everyone who downs the ss/na
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Originally Posted by k2kwj
this is for everyone who downs the ss/na

The people who "down" it do so simply for the fact that there is a faster stock model available.

The 2.4 is a very nice powerplant with great technology and when tuned right can run very well. Like the ss/sc the VVT ecotec responds well to mods.

It's not what you drive, it's how you build it.

Nice runs.
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Originally Posted by k2kwj
this is for everyone who downs the ss/na
Not trying to be a tool or down the SS/NA, its a great car that can hold it's own. But the 2nd race was against a guy that had his SS/SC for a short time. I couldn't and still have issues with driving mine and Ive had it for 3 months.

Anyway, good runs.
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^true but the first guy he raced he beat although since he didnt really talk to him there is a small possibility that this guy was new with an ss/sc as well...
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Originally Posted by leviticus88
Not trying to be a tool or down the SS/NA, its a great car that can hold it's own. But the 2nd race was against a guy that had his SS/SC for a short time. I couldn't and still have issues with driving mine and Ive had it for 3 months.

Anyway, good runs.
i rode with him and he could drive it pretty well, and he raced and srt-4 3 times and out ran him everytime so. in two weeks ill be going to the local 1/4 mile and ill post my slips because im sure it will be in the 14's
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Originally Posted by k2kwj
^true but the first guy he raced he beat although since he didnt really talk to him there is a small possibility that this guy was new with an ss/sc as well...
I know what ya'll are saying but when doing an 20 roll how much skill does it take ya know?
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go to the track and post your times, then we will all know for sure how you stand against a bone stock ss/sc
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Originally Posted by sethallen
go to the track and post your times, then we will all know for sure how you stand against a bone stock ss/sc
im going to go once i get my ecu tune because the closest 1/4 track to me is about an hour and an half
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hey Jaslowyota

was curious about the SC dyne header, how noticible were the gains? same with the rsm crankshaft pulley. Was lookin into a pulley but not sure if the gains are worth the price. how's it responding?
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Nice races. Interesting though, a full bolt on 2.4 is still over a car length slower than a stock S/C SS. I's like to see your track times.
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Originally Posted by Bad06SS
Nice races. Interesting though, a full bolt on 2.4 is still over a car length slower than a stock S/C SS. I's like to see your track times.
may be full bolt on but it still lacks forced induction. Throw a turbo on that it'll be a killer
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moved to war stories.
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Originally Posted by jaslowyota
im going to go once i get my ecu tune because the closest 1/4 track to me is about an hour and an half
When I lived in Jax a bunch of us would roll to Gainsville. Otherwise we would run on Blanding. A few times we ran on this stretch that had a nice little bump in the middle that made your cheeks pucker
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I wouldn't lose
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Originally Posted by jaslowyota
i rode with him and he could drive it pretty well, and he raced and srt-4 3 times and out ran him everytime so. in two weeks ill be going to the local 1/4 mile and ill post my slips because im sure it will be in the 14's
Not trying to start anything, but do you mean he beat a srt-4 3 times, if so I find it hard to believe you lost by only a car, but good race.
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lol how much skill does it take. sorry but. didnt u miss 2nd!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Beck
may be full bolt on but it still lacks forced induction. Throw a turbo on that it'll be a killer

Throw a turbo on and you'll be right with a GM Stage 2'd S/C SS. An INTENSE stage 2 or higher will walk away from a turbo'd 2.4, more than likely.
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im never one to call BS on a war story, and dont take that as what im trying to do, but a few moths ago i raced a 2.4 coupe, from a dig and roll respectively. from the dig, i won by about 6 carlenghts, no exageration, and from the roll (40mph) it was about 4-5 cars. i know the driver also has a lot do to with the race, so im complimenting you that you must be a decent driver
like i said ive drive my GF's 2.4 sedan, and the thing is pretty peppy i give it credit, its probly the fastest NA 4 banger ive driven. but go against a driver that is good at launces and the story will be different.
I give you credit though, good races man
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Originally Posted by Bad06SS
Throw a turbo on and you'll be right with a GM Stage 2'd S/C SS. An INTENSE stage 2 or higher will walk away from a turbo'd 2.4, more than likely.

You mustn't have a clue about turbo charging...
a T3/T4 50Trim is good for 120mph trap speeds, and far and away produces more boost, more power then the tiny little Eaton Super charger.

The question to me is, how much power/boost can the 2.4's stock internals withstand...
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Originally Posted by LittleMT
You mustn't have a clue about turbo charging...
a T3/T4 50Trim is good for 120mph trap speeds, and far and away produces more boost, more power then the tiny little Eaton Super charger.

The question to me is, how much power/boost can the 2.4's stock internals withstand...

Sorry, but the 2.4 has too high of compression to be running that much boost. This isn't SRT-4's we're talking about here. He was referring to just putting an already made turbo kit onto the bolt on 2.4. Watch and see, a kit such as hahn's turbo kit will probably not have much more than 10lbs of boost, and probably won't make more than 250whp which is where a GM stage 2 kit is at. The kind of power you're talking about is with alot of major work done to be able to run that boost. By the way, that tiny little supercharger is equivalent to half the displacement of the engine! Think about it, a 2.0 liter motor, and a 62 cubic inch blower. So far, we're running 20lbs of boost with a 2.5" pulley and making gains. I know that you have a high horsepower SRT-4, but you need to learn a little bit more about these cars. Now before you get mad, is the potential there? Of course! GM's phase 5 cobalt runs 11's at ~120 mph. But I believe we can make 11's with our stock blowers. You can make anything fast with enough money.....
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ACtually the Phase 5 Cobalt Runs 9s
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Hahns kit will most likely run at 8 psi like the solstice kit and hit 242whp. Use race gas and bump it up to 10-11psi and you'll see around 260.
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Originally Posted by JCswoosher2
lol how much skill does it take. sorry but. didnt u miss 2nd!!!!!
Ok smart ass your gonna sit there an tell me you have never missed an gear?
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nice runs as with most cars if you don't get that initial jump it is hard to pull ahead cus all your doing at that point is trying to catch up.


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