Hey guys.... I killed that WRX... so I thought I would see how I do against an STI... so I found this STI and was messin with it and he took a right onto a street and I turned right after him... and we both hit it as soon as I finished the turn.... so he started out in front of me... and it was broad day light so im not to fond of goin that fast in the daytime. So i shut down at like 85 mph... but man, he wasnt movin much.... from 20 mph to 85, he prolly only gained a foot or two.... if that... it was close. I have the vid to show ya guys too... Keep in mind, he started in front of me....my little bro didn't start the camera till i chriped into second.... so check it out.

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not an STi.

 

no offense but you were loaded with people in your car and I've seen regular WRX's rockin without the huge wing. That didn't look like an STi. They have a distint look on the back even if they don't have the big wing like the badges, different exhaust and the rims would be either gold or a heavy dark silver. That looks to be a regular WRX to be honest.

The video seems kinda blurry. Not bashing or hating. Nice run

 

DUDE, ITS ON THE INTERNET....SWEET! j/p. sweet. IDK how u hung w/ one, but props...

 

LMAO on the kid saying, "that is sooooo going on the internet, that is sooooo going on the internet." sorry to break it to you guys but like sneaky said and i stated earlier....that is a wrx.

 

I think it was a wrx too. I've rode in my friend matts STI and they are pretty damn quick. Definitely should be faster than the SS from a roll.

 

yeah, I also vote "not an STi" .. I've yet to see a WRX STi without the wing.. but maybe I dont get around enough either plus the fact that there aren't more than a couple around where I live.

But I'm basing my vote more on the facts of the stock cars and their performance levels...
A stock WRX Sti is what about 300hp & 300tq.. with 0-60 about 4.6seconds and 1/4mile in about 13.5 or something (I think ... maybe not exactly accurate numbers there)
thus it should smoke a stock SS S/C (specially one loaded wtih passengers)
If that is truely an STi in the video, maybe he wasn't really even pushing it.

brifriinc, do you know the WRX owner ? were you ever close enough to visually inspect the car ?

A stock regular WRX (about 225hp & about 215tq) appears to be very close competition to the stock SS S/C, and I would imagine would turn out results just like that video displays when racing an SS S/C (plus the fact that it would visually match in appearance to that car in the vid)

also just think.. when the 2006 Cobalt SS Coupe (non s/c) starts getting out there on the streets we're going to have people racing it and claiming they beat an SS S/C as well, posting videos as evidence as well (just like this where it is unclear for sure what model the car is)....

 

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those are nice numbers stock...but that wasnt an STi

that looks about right if that was a stock wrx tho.

 

Not let me get this right...
questionable WRX STi 300hp/300 tq awd with one person inside
VS
Confirmed Cobalt SS 205hp/200 tq fwd with 4 people inside

concusion:
1) IT WASN"T A STi
2) "IF" it was an STi you were not shown all 300 HP (or 275 if it was an older one) They ere just toying with you!
3) It was a WRX 227hp/217tq
4) and worse yet it could have been someone's little sister in an RS 165hp/166tq 'Runnin" from a bunch of boys in some econo car with a wing!

Come on the SS isn't in the same league as a STi with four people in it and the SS driver alone running with 1/8 tank of fuel.
Yes the SS's run good but hmm why would ANYONE think they can run with a $35K genuine sports cars. Face it the STi surprises much more expensive cars out on the roads. A stock Cobalt SS with 4 (or even one) people is no contest, nor worthy of a real race. ( a butt spanking YES but to really race nope go home and play little cobalt the Scooby hears your mom calling!
05SDI

 

STI's are overrated because it is AWD. If they were FWD they would be running high 13's to low 14's. Cobalt SS is capable of low 14's for sure, and it's FWD. They both have the same power, but the CSS just lacks the traction. From rolls they are very similar in speed. Horsepower IS NOT everything.

 

That definately is not an STI. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and say it was possibly a WRX. But there is a chance that it may have even been a 2.5rs. In the whole time I sold Subarus i saw maybe one WRX without a wing. With you having 4 people in the car it wouldnt take much for a 2.5 rs to beat you.

 

3 extra people is alot to, unless you're all 5-2@100lbs ... Lets say (for arguments sake) that your 3 friends average 200lbs each. Let's say that with just you driving, the car weighs 3100lbs.

With 220whp, the online calculators (not 100% accurate, but good enough for arguments sake) say 14.0@101. Now add three 200lb friends and the car's weight is 3700lbs. Online Calculator says 14.9@95. That's almost a full second loss due to weight.

My vote is that it was the regular WRX.

 

hey guys, thats cool that you all say its a WRX... but whatever, I know what went down. I accually stopped and talked to the guy too. It was an STI. He was even shocked to hear that I only paid 23 grand for my car and still stuck with him, cause he said he paid 36 grand for his... for whatever reason... maybe he had 30 subs in the back to weight it down or just a bad driver... Thats my proof that I stuck with one.... i never said I beat it. He would have killed me from a stop... with a 1.8 60 foot, stock... thats amazing. But hey, if it was front wheel drive, it would be havin the same problem as SS's have, no Traction. Its all fun.

Oh and my bro has a high quality HI8 camera, and when i convert it to AVI to put on to streetfire, it messes up the quality for some reason. Its all good, im a good sport about all you guys thinkin its not a STI, cause I know what happend.

oh, and it is possible to take a wing off a car, lol... he said he took the wing off because its a cop magnet...

 

Yeah, and the SRT is overrated because it has a turbo, right? The fact is, it IS AWD, and will domitate almost everything from a stop, and STILL has 300hp. Even though the SS is underrated power-wise, it still doesn't have 300hp. I can't believe you said they have the same power. Not to mention, the STi is geared steeper for quicker acceleration. The STi is a great car and is certainly not overrated. It's not a BEAST from a roll in stock form, but when you can trap ~103mph, it's STILL faster than an SS from a roll.

 

You actually believe and STI is that fast? No doubt it is a quick car but I've never believed what mags say anymore. Last night at the track a guy in an STI with intake, exhaust and tuning ran 13.5 and every run after that was high 13's low 14's. Anything can happen but don't believe eveything you "hear". Can a SS beat a 'stock' STI? After what I saw yesterday, maybe, maybe not not. It sure as hell will not with 3 people in it though.

 

wow.. where to start.. first off.. i cant even watch the full vid cause streetfire is gay.. but from what i can see.. i dont think its an STi.. i think the guy driving might have been busting your *****.. an STi.. even if is AWD and is hurt by it from a roll.. is a mighty fast car. ninja.. i believe you sir are an idiot. (just because you saw one car run 13.5's doesnt mean they're slow.. ive heard of 13.0x's from bone stock). Lets also remember what the STi and Evo are built for. Rally. out of the box rally cars. they really arent a drag car of anytype. Now as for an SS beating an STi'.. i do believe this is possible from a very high speed roll (ie. 50 mph).. the STi and Evo run out of umph at around 80 mph.. (remember rally) and i dont believe our cars lose as much umph at the higher end. i have a friend that drives a brand new Evo 8 and i think i might have to break out the old camera and give him a call.. we'll do dead stop (haha) 20, 40, 50 mph rolls.. this is just my input.

 

Rolling 5 to 60 MPH, 2005 WRX STI : 6.4 s
Rolling 5 to 60 MPH, 2005 Cobalt SS/SC : 6.2 s

0 to 60 MPH, 2005 WRX STI : 4.9 s (surely from a dig the STI is much faster, it's AWD)
0 to 60 MPH, 2005 Cobalt SS/SC : 5.9 s

The STI is 3308 pounds
The SS/SC is 2911 pounds

The STI is about 218 to 222 whp bone stock (make your own search)
The SS/SC is about 205 to 215 whp bone stock

So who has the better power to weight ratio ?

These data come from these pages ...

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=4
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=2

 

... the STI traps the quarter mile at 102 MPH and the SS/SC at 100 MPH, not a great difference.
... the STI is doing the quarter mile in a full second less than the SS/SC, because it is the same full second it gain from it's AWD system...

Both car's have the same top speed of 145 MPH, whatever it's limited or not !

 

^^^^.. thank you

 

Iv never seen an SS/SC trap 100 before....usually around 97-98...

and a note, the STi makes 200ish HP to all 4 wheels, not just two...so the numbers dont exactly translate, an engine can make 500HP, but only put down 420 RWHP, but on an AWD car it would likely only put down 380 or even less due to its power being diverted.

 

Fixed it for you.

 

Everyone is forgetting that those numbers are for empty cars. This guy had him plus 3 other people in the car. That puts the weights even if not a lil in favor of the subaru. Another thing to keep in mind is there is no way to get an STI without a spoiler. Subaru will not let you order them that way. Who would go through the trouble of having the spoiler shaved or replacing the truck with an standard impreza trunk. The only STIs ive seen with that done had some extra horsepower under the hood and were going for the sleeper look. Im still going to have to say its not an sti.

 

.. i agree on the fact that it is not an STi.. but saying that a trunk swap is a hassle is wrong.. i had actually bought an STi but couldnt keep it cause my insurance came to 8 g's a year.. and i was on clubwrx.net all the time. Trunk swaps are way more common than you think.. many WRX owners want the STi look.. and many STi owners either dont like the wing.. or complain about not being able to see out their mirror.. so finding someone to trade with never seemed like a problem.. i have found that the number one way to tell the difference is look at the brakes. you can change the rims, wing, sideskirts with ease.. but a Brembo brake kit would be big bucks.. and how can you miss those 13?? inch gold brakes.. they take up the whole ****** wheel.

 

Your right about the trunk swap being more common, i was referring more to that fact that someone who is going to do a trunk swap in my opinion is probably not going to have a stock car that is going to get caught by a SS with 4 people riding.

 

I know im over analyzing this but the side mirrors on wrx's and sti's are body colored. The car in the video has black mirrors. Just an observation.