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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by srt-killer
The ss/sc might seem slower stock and brand new but thats only because they only boost 9 1/2- 10psi. till there broken in, so ya when you test drive the two, the srt does seem faster, but give it a couple month or so till the motor is broken in and the ss will smoke an srt, stock vs. stock.
lol I dont know about smoke it, but its usually a very close race. Usually the SRT still has an advantage over 120, but if we are talking from a 40 roll I too would give a slight advantage to the SS/SC.

Gotta remember it also depends on the car itself, as the above wont hold true in every scenerio. I think teh majority of cobalt drivers suck, and this is the big discrepancy.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 10:29 PM
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I will agree with you on that one about most of the cobalt drivers suck, cause im always hearing about how first is to short and second is to tall, my car always bogs after a 1-2 shift, Or i cant launch on the street.lol. Don't get me wrong, it does take alittle bit of getting use to but not impossible. The cars gears are perfect if you know how to drive it.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 11:17 PM
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i don't race srt-4's from rolls as that third gear is a killer. i've raced two from a dig and managed to edge both of them out by maybe a foot up to 100. i think the cobalt is easier to launch, maybe cuz of the wider tires? or that nobody knows how to drive besides me?
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 11:27 PM
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haha.... trust me your not the only one!
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 12:59 AM
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All I know is that I raced a stock SRT when i was stock from a dig. We went to 120 and I had 1 1/2 cars. But after stage 2 my balt eats srt's. lol
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by iso
i don't race srt-4's from rolls as that third gear is a killer. i've raced two from a dig and managed to edge both of them out by maybe a foot up to 100. i think the cobalt is easier to launch, maybe cuz of the wider tires? or that nobody knows how to drive besides me?
Ill admit, I have a problem with lighting up the tires but when i figured out how much to give it in 1st my times greatly improved! It just takes seat time, some more than others.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by leviticus88
Ill admit, I have a problem with lighting up the tires but when i figured out how much to give it in 1st my times greatly improved! It just takes seat time, some more than others.
i can get perfect launches on the street, but i do terrible at the drag strip. i've only run twice, so i probably just need some more practice. plus, this is my first fwd car that i've ever taken to the track.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by srt-killer
The ss/sc might seem slower stock and brand new but thats only because they only boost 9 1/2- 10psi. till there broken in, so ya when you test drive the two, the srt does seem faster, but give it a couple month or so till the motor is broken in and the ss will smoke an srt, stock vs. stock.

LMFAO!!! Pure comedy, please keep on this could get good. Where is this proof that boost increases magically with mileage???? I promise you stock vs stock a SRT will walk away, it has been proven by myself and many other people. BTW My Stage 0 SRT > your Stage 1,2,3 ect Cobalt.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 10:20 PM
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LMFAO!!! Pure comedy, please keep on this could get good. Where is this proof that boost increases magically with mileage???? I promise you stock vs stock a SRT will walk away, it has been proven by myself and many other people. BTW My Stage 0 SRT > your Stage 1,2,3 ect Cobalt.
im not sure about how knowledgeable you are with a brand new cobalt ss since you obviously dont own one, but i bought mine with 17 miles on it and it only boosted about ten psi. At 500 miles it started boosting the whole 12 psi.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 10:21 PM
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LMFAO!!! Pure comedy, please keep on this could get good. Where is this proof that boost increases magically with mileage???? I promise you stock vs stock a SRT will walk away, it has been proven by myself and many other people. BTW My Stage 0 SRT > your Stage 1,2,3 ect Cobalt.
Maybe you would know, if you drove a ss/sc. Ask any one who has one, what they were boosting when they first bought there car. The computer leaks out more boost during the breakin period so the engine doesn't get damaged. At around 2k miles the car will start getting full boost.(12psi). So ever time the cobalt is tested against any other car its only getting 9 1/2-10psi. They just don't mention it for some reasone. And if you don't belive me or any other cobalt owner than go and test drive one for your self and look at the boost gage. But don't get me wrong a stock srt could beat a ss/sc if the ss/sc driver sucks at driving. But given equal drivers, the ss/sc will beat an srt all day!
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by cobalt8
unfortunately, the srt-4s are quite a bit quicker then the cobalt ssscs stock ><
no there not...
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 10:32 PM
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no there not...
Im with you on that one! Any cobalt ss/sc owner who says or thinks that can't drive their car!
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 11:05 PM
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But apparantly he is the only one that knows the real truth
What do you mean by this?
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by srt-killer
What do you mean by this?
Sarcasm....I was implying that everyone else must not know that the Cobalt is truly a faster car or that maybe you are the only one that knows how to drive it. I make the statement because the majority of the members on this board concede to the fact that the SRT4 is a faster car in stock form.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 11:34 PM
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Sarcasm....I was implying that everyone else must not know that the Cobalt is truly a faster car or that maybe you are the only one that knows how to drive it. I make the statement because the majority of the members on this board concede to the fact that the SRT4 is a faster car in stock form.
Thats true, most of the members do say that.....but they are also the ones complaining about the gearing and traction on the street.
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by srt-killer
Thats true, most of the members do say that.....but they are also the ones complaining about the gearing and traction on the street.
A lot of those people giving in to the facts also admit losing from 2nd and 3rd gear roll races.I know that drivers are important, but if you take the launch out of the equation and have a guy who is at least somewhat competent and he still loses then what.
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 12:22 AM
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It still takes driver skills even from a roll. There are numerous way to take off from a roll. Ok I will admit that the srt is a faster car around 115mph and up. but thats only because they have a taller gear ratio then us. I know ours is 4:05, i cant think of the srt's but i know its taller, so better top end, but in a 1/4 mile race or even from a roll but only up to the end of 3rd, the ss will beat a srt.
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by srt-killer
It still takes driver skills even from a roll. There are numerous way to take off from a roll. Ok I will admit that the srt is a faster car around 115mph and up. but thats only because they have a taller gear ratio then us. I know ours is 4:05, i cant think of the srt's but i know its taller, so better top end, but in a 1/4 mile race or even from a roll but only up to the end of 3rd, the ss will beat a srt.
uhoh, I think the killer just knocked over his king. Last time I checked there were 2 more gears. I dont know about the rest of the SRT guys, but a lot of kills I get comes from my fast fourth where most cars go flat. Either way the SS is a fast ****** car and not to be tangled with by the unsuspecting SRT. I love both cars.
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 01:39 AM
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I love both the srt and ss/sc thats no question in my book but, Its hard to find a BONE stock srt and ss/sc now Especially since the market is really starting to open up for the cobalt. It usually comes down to mods to mods and who has the proper tuning. A cobalt with proper tuning COULD beat a stage 2 srt unless the driver sucked ass. Since the srt will always have more torque than us (in stage kits comparison)....that will always be our fall. So comparing the 2 is kinda irrelevant since pretty much noone is stock anymore...
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 02:43 AM
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Well i agree with what everybody is saying but alls i know is from a 40 roll we bothed nailed it at the same time and i got the lead immediately
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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srt's are anything but slow, lol. stock for stock, i test drove both the ss/sc and srt4, i really cant see how its possible for the ss/sc to be a faster car. i found there to be quite a noticeable difference in the performance between the 2 cars. im not bashing the ss/sc, it is by all means a good car, i just find the srt to be faster. good win tho man.
Yeah, the torque lines are smoother and more organized on the SS/SC. the SRT4's torque lines are more rapid in different areas and bad in others. When you test drove the SRT, you just felt the torque lines and the car seeming like it was bucking lol, while the Cobalt seems to be more of the calm ride, but your still going really fast.
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 12:26 PM
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little..what mods do u have?
To many l
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by srt-killer
Maybe you would know, if you drove a ss/sc. Ask any one who has one, what they were boosting when they first bought there car. The computer leaks out more boost during the breakin period so the engine doesn't get damaged. At around 2k miles the car will start getting full boost.(12psi). So ever time the cobalt is tested against any other car its only getting 9 1/2-10psi. They just don't mention it for some reasone. And if you don't belive me or any other cobalt owner than go and test drive one for your self and look at the boost gage. But don't get me wrong a stock srt could beat a ss/sc if the ss/sc driver sucks at driving. But given equal drivers, the ss/sc will beat an srt all day!
It has been proven time and time again, that the SRT4 does have a SLIGHT adavantage if the drivers of the two cars have the same exaxt driving skills.
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 01:05 PM
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Wish i could meet some of these Cobalts that eat SRT's for lunch all the time.
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 01:07 PM
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My uncle beat me in his SRT 4, buthe has a Swapped 60 trim turbo and all the other goodies...almost 380 hp...so ur guess of course I lost....I beat him in the stang though. LOL!
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