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Old 09-17-2007, 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 95cam86roc
Italian- With that setup how reliable has you car been? j/w bc my car is my DD. I would love to run that setup or one similiar but i am so afraid of blowing up. So i am going to go w/a 2.9 on 42's w/hptuners. I hope that it will be enough for my taste so i dont push the breaking point.
Perfectly reliable for over a year a 20K+ miles with the current setup, about 3 months on the bottle. No problems at all actually.

Originally Posted by damstr
Well at first I was suprised and impressed when I watched the vid but then I saw that you had a 50 shot which is a huge help which makes it not as impressive to me.

Run again without the 50 shot, I betcha it will be a close drivers race.

But hey what do you care if I or anyone else is impressed right?
Sure, the only other mods I have over him are a 2.8 and DP/Ported manifold, it would be a real close race. He wanted to see my car run on the bottle.

Originally Posted by lsjwannabe
stg3 will be faster by a little bit his is a little more done up then stg3 even off the juice
Yeah, I wouldn't expect to stay with a true stage 3, seeing that it is actually tuned to run the setup. It would be close though.

Originally Posted by silverSS
that 50 shot really did make a very big diff. What is your redline set at?
7200

Originally Posted by 2fastSS
pistons 2 and 4 melted to ****
Dear god I hope not. Well, if it hasn't happened yet, i'm not too worried about it. I do have an LC-1 that needs to get hooked up though, I just gotta get a gauge or an Interceptor set.

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Old 09-17-2007, 01:17 AM
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what kind of tune do you have?? I mean you do know you go static at like 6,000 rpms or so
Old 09-17-2007, 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 2fastSS
what kind of tune do you have?? I mean you do know you go static at like 6,000 rpms or so
every car is diff. Have you seen logs of his car?
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Originally Posted by silverSS
every car is diff. Have you seen logs of his car?
I can't speak for anyone else, but I'll say it again. I've run my setup, which is Stage 1 with a 2.8 pulley and a stage 2 belt, for over a year and 20K miles. I have NEVER had any kind of drivability issue with this setup, plugs burn clean, oil has no **** in it, everything is good with the car. I know, according to all the people on the wonderful forums my car is going to blow up. I highly doubt it, just because I wouldn't keep pushing if I was having problems with the car. Everyone that i've seen has blown up on a custom tune, not on a Stage tune. Also, the NOS wet kit allows me to overjet a little on the fuel and make sure that I'm not starving the engine for fuel at high rpms when on the bottle. I trust my setup, and **** anyone who says otherwise. I've done it, it works, the car rips. I'll log and tune my car when I can afford to, then we'll see.
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a 2.8 pulley with 42lbers and a 50 shot...mhmm every car is different huh TO AN EXTENT YES THEY ARE... But that 50 shot on 42s will go.... Just a matter of time
Old 09-17-2007, 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 2fastSS
a 2.8 pulley with 42lbers and a 50 shot...mhmm every car is different huh TO AN EXTENT YES THEY ARE... But that 50 shot on 42s will go.... Just a matter of time
Bro, think what you want, my car isn't going anywhere. For one, I believe in supporting mods. People told me that the axles would break with this power, not with good mounts and a decent driver. One of the biggest problems with this car is exhaust flow, so I ported the stock manifold as a hold-over until I do a header. I have a daul-pass and second H/E on only a 2.8 pulley, because heat on this engine is what kills it.

Tell me how a 50 shot and injector sizes are related, and why this will kill my car, if you don't mind.
Old 09-17-2007, 01:45 AM
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ill tell u... Yes our cars creat alot of heat im not some idiot who doesnt no nething about this car... My friend had supporting mods, 3 inch, downpipe, and a header... Thats the reason he blew so early is because he didnt have any cooling mods... So tell me, how do u think once you go static and your fuel injectors are over 100% duty cycle how cant **** break? The thing thats been saving your ass is that dual pass and low IATs

either way you still got a fast car, i just hope what happened to him and 4 grand later the same happens to you... Just looking out and warning you

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Originally Posted by 2fastSS
ill tell u... Yes our cars creat alot of heat im not some idiot who doesnt no nething about this car... My friend had supporting mods, 3 inch, downpipe, and a header... Thats the reason he blew so early is because he didnt have any cooling mods... So tell me, how do u think once you go static and your fuel injectors are over 100% duty cycle how cant **** break? The thing thats been saving your ass is that dual pass and low IATs
Well, duty cycle isn't the problem, its the AFR. If the car starts at 10.0, goes static and rises to 11.2, thats still fine. Factory tune is way rich, so my setup is designed around that. I mod for a reason. I've been playing with cars since before I was 10 years old, I only do stuff that works and makes sense. It doesn't have to be the best setup in the world to make power, and with any car, making more power creates more risk. I just happen to have enough ***** to risk it and make power, not just talk about it like a lot of people. I have less than $2000 in my car and it makes damn near 300hp to the wheels, how many people on here can say that? I'm not trying to be an ass, I just don't like hearing on here all the time that my setup "can't work" or "will go boom".
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hey im just looking out, your right i dont have the ***** to make a setup that isnt really worth it you know? Im just looking out so you dont blow your **** up... Neway he told me that gm said he had a major LEAK.. So that coulda been a huge problem of him blowing up also
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Originally Posted by 2fastSS
what kind of tune do you have?? I mean you do know you go static at like 6,000 rpms or so
yeah ive been running a zzp custom tune for over 2000 miles and have dynod and made sure to check a/f ratio and idc at 5000rpm to rev limit at 7300 my point is im running 42s also and wanted to install my nitrous kit (wet) seens how i already have one from my honda but i wanted to see someone else do it and hear feedback like is it okay to inject the fuel before the supercharger? will it hurt the rotors? or the coating? im sure the engine can handle it i mean if im not mistaken it is fully forged crank and rods? i dont know about pitons? any info would be greatly appreciated...
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Originally Posted by hungryhip-ccp
yeah ive been running a zzp custom tune for over 2000 miles and have dynod and made sure to check a/f ratio and idc at 5000rpm to rev limit at 7300 my point is im running 42s also and wanted to install my nitrous kit (wet) seens how i already have one from my honda but i wanted to see someone else do it and hear feedback like is it okay to inject the fuel before the supercharger? will it hurt the rotors? or the coating? im sure the engine can handle it i mean if im not mistaken it is fully forged crank and rods? i dont know about pitons? any info would be greatly appreciated...
I'm spraying before the TB, I'll have to check it in a bit when I get my spare blower back, but I was told the coating is fine to spray through. You are correct about the bottom end. You would have the same setup that I have, which works real nice and suprises the hell outta people.

Don't get too aggressive on a custom tune though, I don't know how much your timing is advanced over stage timing, but you dont want more advance if you are going to spray.

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Originally Posted by ItalianJoe1
I'm spraying before the TB, I'll have to check it in a bit when I get my spare blower back, but I was told the coating is fine to spray through. You are correct about the bottom end. You would have the same setup that I have, which works real nice and suprises the hell outta people.
do you know what hp and tq you make with the gas ill bet the tq gains are huge and what kit do you use and jet sizes someone up higher on the repls said something about 296hp to the wheels that would be f***ing awesome
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what kind?
Old 09-17-2007, 02:11 AM
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Its a Holley NOS wet kit. I quoted what a guy on here did (Zinner), which was 292 to the wheels with a 2.8 on stage 2 tune with a 50 shot.
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what size jets??? that kit should be like a #37 nos #22 fuel maybe less on the fuel because of our high fuel pressure like #20 or #18

ohh how far from tb did you go?

i was thinking of just 25 shot for cooling purposes i dont like meth it can kill motors if you spray to much or too little on accident... 50 on your car made a huge difference though sooooooooooo tempting that would be an modded srt4
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Originally Posted by hungryhip-ccp
what size jets??? that kit should be like a #37 nos #22 fuel maybe less on the fuel because of our high fuel pressure like #20 or #18

ohh how far from tb did you go?

i was thinking of just 25 shot for cooling purposes i dont like meth it can kill motors if you spray to much or too little on accident... 50 on your car made a huge difference though sooooooooooo tempting that would be an modded srt4
Yeah, its currently the 37/22 jets, I'll let it run a little rich, the car likes it. It is punched into the intake/TB hose, about 3 inches from the TB plate or less. I keep up/pull slightly on Stage 2 SRTs with full bolt ons, only really worked stock turbo ones on race gas have pulled me, or big turbo ones that only catch back up after 100 mph.
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Originally Posted by ItalianJoe1
I'm spraying before the TB, I'll have to check it in a bit when I get my spare blower back, but I was told the coating is fine to spray through. You are correct about the bottom end. You would have the same setup that I have, which works real nice and suprises the hell outta people.

Don't get too aggressive on a custom tune though, I don't know how much your timing is advanced over stage timing, but you dont want more advance if you are going to spray.
Cool man let us know how the rotors look. Nicely done.
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People are saying there not impressed because in the video it looks like the next car is slow, when in reality its not.
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yeah pretty much
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Well heres another video of the car he raced 'the camera car', i hope this helps.
And he would of still pulled him, if he wasnt on spray, all of us chill so i know
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/5...aa00f7f86e.htm
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Originally Posted by Darkmanx
People are saying there not impressed because in the video it looks like the next car is slow, when in reality its not.
Yeah, people forget that Stage 2 is a nice difference over stock, that vid does make Brads car look pretty slow.
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we need to get a vid of my car and a stage 2 this friday.
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Originally Posted by ItalianJoe1
Yeah, its currently the 37/22 jets, I'll let it run a little rich, the car likes it. It is punched into the intake/TB hose, about 3 inches from the TB plate or less. I keep up/pull slightly on Stage 2 SRTs with full bolt ons, only really worked stock turbo ones on race gas have pulled me, or big turbo ones that only catch back up after 100 mph.
but you will still never touch an ls2 powered car




at least thats what they'll say
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damn i want NAWSSSSSSSS
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"Oh yeah!" Sounded like the kool-aid guy!


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