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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 03:07 PM
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I think it was supposed to be honda's luxury/sport combo ontop of being a status symbol. Hence the price.

I knew a kid who's dad had an nsx ( good looking cars, was yellow I think) and he'd take it out and race it when his dad was out of town. I heard him talkin in class one day about how it 'runs 11's in the 1/4 mile' (it was 10000% stock). I just laughed to myself and kept quiet. Those cars are head-turners though.
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 06:31 AM
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Looks like the NSX still gets owned in handing by the Corvette Z51, which just happens to cost $40K less. So theres pretty much nothing that justifies paying the $90K pricetag to purchase an NSX besides the "image" of owning one
But that's just it...image is part of the package, as is the case with all exotic cars. Vette's can hang with alot of higher priced cars, it's no secret that the newer vette's are performance bargains, but they don't come with the same image as cars like the NSX. When you start spending 90k+ on a car you're blowing alot of money for your image, that's just the way it is, all exotic cars come with an image price tag associated with them.
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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99% of racing people do day-to-day is straight line. If your car is great on a road course, but slow on the streets= no respect from car enthusiasts.
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 07:43 PM
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99% of racing people do day-to-day is straight line. If your car is great on a road course, but slow on the streets= no respect from car enthusiasts.
And by car enthusiasts you mean little punks who street race?

Any real car enthusiast would respect the NSX for the fine piece of automotive engineering it is, no one buys am exotic car to drag race it. Also, if you actually think you're going to get more respect driving a supercharged cobalt rather then a NSX...you're seriously mistaken.
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 07:46 PM
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I'm sure that doesn't really matter to those who actually OWN a Supercharged Cobalt.
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoony
And by car enthusiasts you mean little punks who street race?

Any real car enthusiast would respect the NSX for the fine piece of automotive engineering it is, no one buys am exotic car to drag race it. Also, if you actually think you're going to get more respect driving a supercharged cobalt rather then a NSX...you're seriously mistaken.

Most people that buy exotic cars don't beat the **** out of it on a road course either. You know I'm right..Stop trying to fight it
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 08:35 PM
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And by car enthusiasts you mean little punks who street race?

Any real car enthusiast would respect the NSX for the fine piece of automotive engineering it is, no one buys am exotic car to drag race it. Also, if you actually think you're going to get more respect driving a supercharged cobalt rather then a NSX...you're seriously mistaken.
A fine piece of HIGHLY OVER-PRICED automotive engineering.

As far as them not drag racing exotic cars...lets see..i've the the carerra gt vs cobra video ..an STi chasing a carerra gt a lambo and a 911.. the mustang,camaro playing with an enzo video. an srt4 and a 360 modena(sp?) lambo playing with an srt4 etc....while I'll bet most all don't even race or track their car there are a few who like to have fun.
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by xonic
A fine piece of HIGHLY OVER-PRICED automotive engineering.

As far as them not drag racing exotic cars...lets see..i've the the carerra gt vs cobra video ..an STi chasing a carerra gt a lambo and a 911.. the mustang,camaro playing with an enzo video. an srt4 and a 360 modena(sp?) lambo playing with an srt4 etc....while I'll bet most all don't even race or track their car there are a few who like to have fun.
yes there are videos of exotics drag racing, there are videos of minivan's drag racing too...that doesn't mean the majority of them do it.

I should have known this conversation would prove pointless, read more then the last post, I already stated exotic car = you pay a bunch of money for the image, so yes it's overpriced, they all are.

If *all* you care about is performance just buy a vette and be done with it, most people can't drive a Vette to it's limits without running off the road anyway, the same applies to most cars in that range. I can't think of one exotic car that isn't overpriced (actually the Mercedes SL65 might be close...but anyway), the term exotic pretty much implies paying for image, people buy them because they're status symbols. Magazine racing is pretty fun, but until you've actually driven in one of these cars you really can't comment, it's a whole different experience.
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoony
Any real car enthusiast would respect the NSX for the fine piece of automotive engineering it is, no one buys am exotic car to drag race it. Also, if you actually think you're going to get more respect driving a supercharged cobalt rather then a NSX...you're seriously mistaken.
1. Instead of an NSX, which is a fine peice of engineering.... I'll pay a whole lot less for an EVEN FINER peice of engineering called a C6 Z06... and totally demolish the NSX at EVERYTHING.

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2. I have way more respect for someone who buys a cheap car and tastefully mods it to be equally fast as the exotic than some rich little punk who just happens to have 90k lying around to blow on an NSX.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Blainestang
1. Instead of an NSX, which is a fine peice of engineering.... I'll pay a whole lot less for an EVEN FINER peice of engineering called a C6 Z06... and totally demolish the NSX at EVERYTHING.

2. I have way more respect for someone who buys a cheap car and tastefully mods it to be equally fast as the exotic than some rich little punk who just happens to have 90k lying around to blow on an NSX.
Well said. Thats exactly how I feel, the NSX is nothing but an overpriced and outdated "image" vehicle.
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 12:13 PM
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maybe people that buy NSX's get them because you don't see them all that often??? I see a ton of corvettes where I am and haven't seen one NSX yet. Just a thought.
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 03:33 PM
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maybe people that buy NSX's get them because you don't see them all that often??? I see a ton of corvettes where I am and haven't seen one NSX yet. Just a thought.
and maybe bears **** in the woods for privacy...

The main argument seems to be about the performance (or lack of) from the NSX for it's price, while it may be their image car it's also supposed to be their performance car. It's true for both cars that most people who buy them don't have the intent on racing (drag, auto X) but when you paid almost 100 grand for a sports car and have trouble beating a (stock) sporty grocery-getter up the on ramp to the highway (and even on the highway) you have to wonder what the hell you paid so much for.
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by xonic
and maybe bears **** in the woods for privacy...

The main argument seems to be about the performance (or lack of) from the NSX for it's price, while it may be their image car it's also supposed to be their performance car. It's true for both cars that most people who buy them don't have the intent on racing (drag, auto X) but when you paid almost 100 grand for a sports car and have trouble beating a (stock) sporty grocery-getter up the on ramp to the highway (and even on the highway) you have to wonder what the hell you paid so much for.
The NSX is definitally over priced, no doubt there...however it would have no problems beating a stock Cobalt up a ramp...seriously.
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 04:22 PM
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I'd drop the $$$ on an NSX anyday (used). Pulp Fiction hooked me on it!
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 04:28 PM
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There was an NSX in pulp fiction?
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 04:46 PM
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ahh hell yeah! The silver one driven by Harvey Keitel "The Wolf".
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 04:47 PM
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I did not know that....
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 05:00 PM
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acura scene
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoony
The NSX is definitally over priced, no doubt there...however it would have no problems beating a stock Cobalt up a ramp...seriously.
I was referring to the older mid 90's models, seems many were running mid-high 13's
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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The NSX is definitely under powered car and over priced. On the road courses, you don't even need C6 Z06 to beat it, hell, regular C5 would give it a good race and C5 Z06 will kill it on any track.

Btw, there isn't many production cars made for drag strip, some just happen to run better than others, a byproduct of great engineeriing and power.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 09:42 AM
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NSX's are rated at what? 290 hp and a little less torque? considering a bolt-on nsx can make more power than they've gotten from a juiced, supercharged, cobalt engine....i highly doubt you beat the guy
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 09:53 AM
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Did you even bother to read the thread?

Try 240whp... and watch the videos...
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Nocturn
...a 91 NSX has 270HP and 3010 curb weight...

..........While other car companies whined that the new California emissions standards were impossible, Honda figured out how to meet them with minor valve timing and induction system tweaks. The same kind of engineering brilliance was applied to the NSX's all-aluminum 3.0-liter V-6. It produces 270 hp and 210 lbs-ft of torque........

TORQUE MAN TORQUE!!!

Oh and also I'm surprised no one has chimed in on how we're discussing a race with a vehicle that was BUILT LAST CENTURY! If you want to pick on the old cars, then just for ***** and giggles, a Cobalt SS/SC will beat the following cars 0-60 and 1/4 mile times:


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Year, Make, Model-----0-60 Time--------1/4 mile time
1967 Ferrari 275 GTS/4 NART 6.7 14.7
1980 Ferrari 308 GTS 6.9 14.9
1988 Ferrari 328 GTS 6.7 15.0
1984 Ferrari Mondial Cabriolet 7.6 16.0
1989 Ferrari Testarossa 6.2 14.2
1983 Lamborghini Jalpa 7.3 15.4
1968 Lamborghini Miura V12 6.3 14.5
1984 Lotus Turbo Esprit 6.6 15.3
1991 Lotus Elan SE 6.6 15.2
1983 Datsun 280ZX Turbo 7.3 15.7
1984 Porsche 911 Carrera 6.2 14.6
1989 Porsche 911 Cabriolet 6.5 15.0
1991 Toyota Supra Turbo 7.1 15.6
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 04:30 PM
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Oh and also I'm surprised no one has chimed in on how we're discussing a race with a vehicle that was BUILT LAST CENTURY!
Is there a reason your trying to make the early 90's through present seem like several decades ago?
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by xonic
Is there a reason your trying to make the early 90's through present seem like several decades ago?

Just trying to prove a point that you can't compare a car's performance that's more than a decade old (Yeah it sounds old cause it is old) versus a fairly new one and expect to compare value/performance so objectively. What made the NSX so expensive at the time was that it had extensive use of aluminum (if I recall) and its performance/notariety was also highly desireable. Yeah I know most of us say, "No way in hell I'd pay XXX for THAT car", but to compare it to today's technologically advanced vehicles is somewhat unfair. That's like me comparing my Pentium 75 MHZ that I spent $3000 on back in 93 to my current 2.8 GHZ Pentium that I spent $900 (04 prices) for. Granted computer technology gets dated much quicker than automotive technology. I've heard rumors about what the next generation's NSX is going to be like, and if the rumors are true then its going to be the same type of beast it was when it was originally introduced. Below is the only picture I could find regarding the rumored V-10 2008 NSX. Deep down it may be a Honda, but I'm sure it would turn heads on the streets.

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