phxSS

I was on my way home from work today on the freeway, when an '01-'03 GT rolls up beside me. He revs his car, then slowly pulls fwd..I catch up to him, and gave him the "let's go" nod. We started at 75mph. I downshifted to 3rd..then i heard him downshift and we were off....We were dead even the whole time! His loud exhaust was screaming, but no pass . We race to about 120mph and let off. I gave him the thunbs up, and got off the next exit. I bet the guy was suprised to see a 4 banger with the dealer tasg still on it keep up with him

Then on the street, two hot chicks in an SVT Focus, tried to race, but there was too much traffic. I know I'd win though, cuz i just traded mine in for this beast!

phxSS

Wow, no one finds this story interesting, huh?

wesmanw02

Good story man

I'm surprised to hear that you hung with a 01-03 Mustang GT though. Do you think it was possibly an auto?? My cousin has one (5-speed), and I think its pretty damn fast, runs 14.0-13.8 stock. I have not driven the SS S/C yet though, so perhaps its just as quick from a roll

Nice race, and good job hangin' with a 4.6

HotSauce

Im more interested in the hot chicks in the SVT . Im sure you made that 'Stang owner very pissed.

codyss

I know alot of people with near stock 99-04 Mustang GT's here in town.

From a roll a Cobalt SS/SC will absolutely kill a GT. The longer you race the further the gap will become, especially after 115mph. As soon as the Mustang hits 5th it dies!

From a dig the GT can hook really good but the gap is closed easily when you hit 2nd in a SS/SC.

I had a 2003 GT for about a year and after:
- Mach1 Suspension Kit
- Aluminum DS
- Ported plenum w/70mm FRPP TB and K&N filter
- Borla mufflers
- Predator programmer
- UD Water pump pulley
- B&M shiter

I still wasn't to impressed so I traded it in on my 2002 Camaro SS.

n4ggs

260 hp vs 250, should be real hard for anyone to run away with it from a roll. css launch like poo, the mustang should have it in the 1/8th but the 1/4 is a drivers race.

codyss

Just like the new GT's the older 99-04 are a 1/4 mile machine and they just plain suck anywhere after that or from a roll. Keep in mind I am not including the 03-04 Cobra which is a from a roll racing monster.

Blainestang

OK, this is getting a little ridiculous. A Cobalt will not "absolutely kill" a GT from a roll. Both cars trap high 90's in the 1/4 w/ quite a few GT's trapping low 100's stock as well. Mine w/ just exhaust trapped 100 in 90+ degree weather and FL humidity and a bogged launch and my friends went 98mph bone stock in 80deg heat and equally horrible humidity. So, trap speeds are similar between the SS and GT and if anything, the GT traps slightly higher... but whatever the case, the SS would not "absolutely kill" a GT from a roll, thats for sure, and to say so would be to totally ignore the facts. I would certainly believe that the SS could hang w/ some of them just like the poster said... but "absolutely kill" a GT... absolutely not.

Oh, and GT's go low 14's stock, and some even go high 13's, which both mine and my friend's would have done given not-as-horrible weather when we went. Therefore, while you may still consider the 1/4 a driver's race between the 2 cars, the GT has a clear advantage... but, like previously stated, the SS could certainly hang from a roll.

BTW, guys... I actually like the SS, have nothing against it as you could see from any of my other posts as well, and I'm interested in learning more about it (hence, why I'm here), but I do have to keep some people realistic in here, too.

phxSS

Blainestang....yea, i don't know if I'd wanna race a manual '99-'04 GT from a light. the auto's are dogs, and I think I could probablty hang..but a stick...IIIIII don't know. It would be close

HotSauce

So far CodySS says a Cobalt SS/SC can beat a Mustang GT, a GTO, is there anything that it cant beat?????

Blainestang

Yeah, I think if you can keep them close on the launch you could hang with them the rest of the way down the 1/4, but that's easier said than done, especially against a manual, but anything can happen. A good driver in an SS could certainly surprise a not-as-good driver in a GT.


From a roll... No.

Everyone knows that his 98mph SS is faster than a 107mph GTO.

orangepower

I would go with maybe it couldn't beat like a ferrari 360 modena or a porsche GT2, just to name a few. On the other hand, the new Z06 Vettes(505 HP! ) and the new Shelby GT 500 mustangs would probably own just as bad. An SS/sc probably wouldn't stand a chance. I have beaten a camaro SS from a light, but he bogged the start.

phxSS

Orangepower..let's not overdue the potential of this car. i think Ferrari's and camaro SS's are pushing it

Blainestang

I agree.... just letting you know that you spelled "Victory" wrong in your sig.

phxSS

thanks, Blaine..changed

Blainestang

No problem... just looking out for a former Mustang owner.

OnequikSS

codyss

I never said I beat A GTO in my Cobalt. I kill those with my Camaro SS.

And Blainestang talk all you want. A 99-04 Mustang GT Bullit or not will get it's ass handed to it from a roll, like I said I had a 2003 GT for a year.

phxSS

Bullitt mustang's were only made in 2001..and only had 5hp more than a stock GT.

Blainestang

Well, I've been polite so far, but if you think my Bullitt that trapped 100mph in 90-degree, ultra-humid weather w/ a BOGGED launch (not spinning which may actually create a better trap) is going to get "absolutely killed" by an SS, you are ignorant.

Why don't you get back to me when an SS traps 100 w/ a BOGGED, not spinning launch and such horrible conditions... then you can say that it might be equal. But guess what... even then, the Bullitt will not get 'absolutely killed' because they're trapping the SAME.

When a stock SS goes to the track in insane heat and humidity and bogs the launch... and STILL traps 103+mph, then you can legitimately say that the SS would 'absolutely kill' a Bullitt from a roll... but until that time.... which I guarantee will never come.... stop spouting off ignorance like this unless you have facts... oh, and "I had a 2003 GT and I can remember exactly how fast the GT felt and it didn't feel as fast as my SS from a roll" doesn't count as facts.


**Disclaimer: This is in no way intended to bash the Cobalt as most non-ignorant members realize that near-equal trap times does not equal one car 'absolutely killing' the other from a roll.

codyss

Blah, Blah So what.

I am not wasting my time. Like I said I had a 2003 GT so I know what it feels like knowing a 4 cylinder could take me out too. Deal with it, you can post all of the Mustang stuff you want but real life is real life.

Blainestang

Well, maybe your "real life" is in an alternate universe where the car w/ a lower trap speed 'absolutely kills' the other car from a roll, but here on earth, we actually have instruments to measure values so we don't have to go by what someone remembers feeling a couple years ago. When an accurate, unbiased machine says that one car traps as high, if not higher, than another, people living in this reality conclude that it won't get 'absolutely killed.'

xxbackhillxx

I agree with Blainestang in every point. Some of you Cobalt owners are letting this crap get to your heads. Butt-Dyno or "seat-of-pants dyno" is not the same as looking at 1/8 and 1/4 times and traps, 60 foots, etc. Get your head out of your ass ... a Cobalt can not ABSOLUTELY DESTROY a Mustang GT from a roll, or dig, whichever the case may be.

JCX

Blaine, I had a similar discussion with him and also concluded the alternate universe.

I could see a Cobalt destroying a 1996-1998 GT from a roll. 1999+, no.

phxSS

How did my story of tieing a stang GT turn into an argument that an SS could "absolutely kill a GT"? tieing and killing a car are two different things.