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Old May 29, 2009 | 09:39 PM
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stage 3 SRT-4 vs Procharged mustang GT

Stage 3 SRT-4 with bolt'ons vs 2001 Mustang GT with procharger at 10psi and bolt'ons

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Old May 29, 2009 | 10:44 PM
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Wow.
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Old May 30, 2009 | 01:04 PM
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Both cars are probably making around the same power, maybe the Mustang is making alittle more, but from a roll the lighter SRT-4 should win. Nice race though!
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Old May 30, 2009 | 01:32 PM
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Stage 3 SRT-4s are nasty especially this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCcZ2Q5tQU8

Silver SRT is 400 whp. Orange cobra is a ported Eaton running 16-18 psi and is 560 whp. The guy with the Cobra sold his car after this because it could not pull on a lowley neon. True story my brother is good friends with the SRT4 owner.
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Old May 30, 2009 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
Stage 3 SRT-4s are nasty especially this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCcZ2Q5tQU8

Silver SRT is 400 whp. Orange cobra is a ported Eaton running 16-18 psi and is 560 whp. The guy with the Cobra sold his car after this because it could not pull on a lowley neon. True story my brother is good friends with the SRT4 owner.
If the silver SRT is only 400whp and the Cobra is truly 560whp, then the driver of the Cobra sucked. That Cobra is easily a mid to low 11 second car with a good driver, and from a roll it should beat that SRT-4 by more than just 1/2 car to a car at most. The guy shouldnt sell his Cobra, just learn to drive, because if he cant beat someone in a roll race where driver error is almost gone, then he really needs to practice.
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Old May 30, 2009 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
Stage 3 SRT-4s are nasty especially this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCcZ2Q5tQU8

Silver SRT is 400 whp. Orange cobra is a ported Eaton running 16-18 psi and is 560 whp. The guy with the Cobra sold his car after this because it could not pull on a lowley neon. True story my brother is good friends with the SRT4 owner.

Oh **** you know J? Tell him the CRZYCUBAN said whats up! Last time I talked to him he was thinking about buying a CSRT4.

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If the silver SRT is only 400whp and the Cobra is truly 560whp, then the driver of the Cobra sucked. That Cobra is easily a mid to low 11 second car with a good driver, and from a roll it should beat that SRT-4 by more than just 1/2 car to a car at most. The guy shouldnt sell his Cobra, just learn to drive, because if he cant beat someone in a roll race where driver error is almost gone, then he really needs to practice.

You have to remember the weight difference. That SRT4 is easily a 11sec car as well.
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Old May 30, 2009 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by CRZYCUBAN2
Oh **** you know J? Tell him the CRZYCUBAN said whats up! Last time I talked to him he was thinking about buying a CSRT4.




You have to remember the weight difference. That SRT4 is easily a 11sec car as well.


Weight difference is not going to make up 160 WHP my man.
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Old May 30, 2009 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by CRZYCUBAN2
Oh **** you know J? Tell him the CRZYCUBAN said whats up! Last time I talked to him he was thinking about buying a CSRT4.




You have to remember the weight difference. That SRT4 is easily a 11sec car as well.
I understand the weight difference, but you figure the SRT-4 is making just alittle over what a stock 03/04 Cobra would, then you add another 150whp. I dont think it would be a demolishment, but I still think the Cobra should win by atleast 3-4 cars.
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Old May 30, 2009 | 04:09 PM
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https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/war-stories-54/ralliartist-vs-50trim-srt-swapped-2door-acr-neon-173464/

50trim > stage 3

ralliartist > 50 trim srt swapped ACR neon.

Skittle termi, haha
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Old May 30, 2009 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ralliartist
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=173464

50trim > stage 3

ralliartist > 50 trim srt swapped ACR neon.

Skittle termi, haha
A 50 trim is not necessarily better than a Stage 3. I know a guy with a Stage 3 plus bolt ons that runs low 7's in the 1/8 and another guy with a 50 trim who runs no better than mid 7's. Just depends on what other mods you have to go with the Stage 3. And the ACR Neon you raced isnt exactly a real SRT-4 with a 50 trim.
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Old May 30, 2009 | 04:52 PM
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no, it's a lighter car with a srt motor swap and a 50trim. Don't even try to tell me that the acr neon I raced last night wouldn't beat up on a stage 3 srt. That's laughable.
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Old May 30, 2009 | 05:04 PM
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no, it's a lighter car with a srt motor swap and a 50trim. Don't even try to tell me that the acr neon I raced last night wouldn't beat up on a stage 3 srt. That's laughable.
I'm 110% sure the guy I know with a Stage 3 SRT-4 would beat you and that Vette that made 340whp. And a stock LS1 Vette makes almost about 320-330whp, so the 340whp isnt much to brag about, and with that power it might run mid 12's, just maybe. Like I said I know a local guy who runs low 7's in the 1/8 and another guy who runs mid 11's in the 1/4 in a Stage 3 SRT-4.
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Old May 30, 2009 | 05:05 PM
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My red SRT back in 2004, motor then was stock, SRT made a unheard of for then, 470whp which was then 3rd highest in the Country and became only the 3rd SRT to go 11's and clicked off the 3rd highest trap seen at that time. The turbo was a 50trim, these runs came at a DA of 7000ft.






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Old May 30, 2009 | 05:07 PM
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Stage 3 with N2O vs Turbo 350Z.
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Old May 30, 2009 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by FutureEcotecOwner
I'm 110% sure the guy I know with a Stage 3 SRT-4 would beat you and that Vette that made 340whp. And a stock LS1 Vette makes almost about 320-330whp, so the 340whp isnt much to brag about, and with that power it might run mid 12's, just maybe. Like I said I know a local guy who runs low 7's in the 1/8 and another guy who runs mid 11's in the 1/4 in a Stage 3 SRT-4.
I'm not claiming to be the fastest car in the world. And I'm not claiming that the 50trim acr I raced is the fastest skittle in the world. But i'm just saying that MOST stage 3 srt's wouldn't keep up with it, or me. Sorry.

I'll have some more vids tonight of some more relative cars that people can relate to.
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Old May 30, 2009 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ralliartist
I'm not claiming to be the fastest car in the world. And I'm not claiming that the 50trim acr I raced is the fastest skittle in the world. But i'm just saying that MOST stage 3 srt's wouldn't keep up with it, or me. Sorry.

I'll have some more vids tonight of some more relative cars that people can relate to.
I'm not saying all Stage 3 SRT-4's would beat you, but your claim of a 50 trim > Stage 3 is faulty. Like I said, the 2 Stage 3 SRT-4's that I know sorta well run in the 11's in the 1/4 mile. I just dont see you hitting 11's, unless you get alittle more power out of your car, and from a roll things would be closer. I know of bolt on SRT-4's running low 13's, Stage 2's running deep into the 12's, and most Stage 3's are in the 11's with the right driver and tire selection. For you to keep up with a Stage 3 SRT-4 you will need atleast 350whp, maybe more because SRT-4's do weigh less than Cobalts.
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Old May 30, 2009 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by FutureEcotecOwner
I'm not saying all Stage 3 SRT-4's would beat you, but your claim of a 50 trim > Stage 3 is faulty. Like I said, the 2 Stage 3 SRT-4's that I know sorta well run in the 11's in the 1/4 mile. I just dont see you hitting 11's, unless you get alittle more power out of your car, and from a roll things would be closer.
Those cars were only running 11's with slicks or DR's.
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Old May 30, 2009 | 05:34 PM
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eh, we'll see. Once I get to Germany and get the clutch and traction sorted out, we'll see what I can do in the 1/4.

Either way, this thing is a blast to drive.
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Old May 30, 2009 | 05:35 PM
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Those cars were only running 11's with slicks or DR's.
So Ralliartist is running his times on street tires??? I dont believe so, almost any Cobalt that is trying to be a contender is running slicks or DR's, which arent illegal so what is your point.

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eh, we'll see. Once I get to Germany and get the clutch and traction sorted out, we'll see what I can do in the 1/4.

Either way, this thing is a blast to drive.
I dont doubt you at all that it's a blast to drive. I just dont see 300whp cars keeping up with 400whp cars from a roll.

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Originally Posted by FutureEcotecOwner
So Ralliartist is running his times on street tires??? I dont believe so, almost any Cobalt that is trying to be a contender is running slicks or DR's, which arent illegal so what is your point.



I dont doubt you at all that it's a blast to drive. I just dont see 300whp cars keeping up with 400whp cars from a roll.
He can beat 50 trim ACR coupe which is lighter then an SRT4. If he can take a car that could run 11's, he should be able to too.

Either bench racing sucks.
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Old May 30, 2009 | 05:37 PM
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I've seen stranger things happen. With our powerbands and gearing, we don't need gobs of power to play with higher horsepower cars.

But for the most part, I agree with you.
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Old May 30, 2009 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by slowswap
He can beat 50 trim ACR coupe which is lighter then an SRT4. If he can take a car that could run 11's, he should be able to too.

Either bench racing sucks.
The ACR 2 door Neon that he raced barely beat a 340whp Vette, a 340whp Vette is a mid 12 second car at best, which from a roll the Neon would have the advantage, and the Vette would have the advantage from a dig. So I bet that Neon is nothing but a mid 12 second car at best. Like I said before, the Neon is a swapped engine car, I guarantee it doesnt have the same internals and components as a Stage 3 "REAL" SRT-4 does.

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I've seen stranger things happen. With our powerbands and gearing, we don't need gobs of power to play with higher horsepower cars.

But for the most part, I agree with you.
Does the SS/TC have good gearing and powerband with the SS/SC?

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Old May 30, 2009 | 05:50 PM
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no, the ss/tc powerband falls on it's face well before the stock 6500rpm rev limit, forcing WAY earlier shift points.

A cobalt ss/sc and a cobalt ss/tc are really nothing alike. Except for the ecotec stamp.

Don't let the 340whp vette fool you. I think I forgot to mention he sprays a 100shot didn't I?
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Old May 30, 2009 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ralliartist
no, the ss/tc powerband falls on it's face well before the stock 6500rpm rev limit, forcing WAY earlier shift points.

A cobalt ss/sc and a cobalt ss/tc are really nothing alike. Except for the ecotec stamp.

Don't let the 340whp vette fool you. I think I forgot to mention he sprays a 100shot didn't I?
So it's a bolt on LS1 Vette making 340whp plus the 100 shot? And the SS/TC's rev limiter is like 6250, not 6500, LOL.
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Old May 30, 2009 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ralliartist
no, the ss/tc powerband falls on it's face well before the stock 6500rpm rev limit, forcing WAY earlier shift points.

A cobalt ss/sc and a cobalt ss/tc are really nothing alike. Except for the ecotec stamp.

Don't let the 340whp vette fool you. I think I forgot to mention he sprays a 100shot didn't I?
must be the lowest reading mustang dyno ever then. 340rwhp on a 100 shot? somebody calibrated that MD horribly or that car doesn't have a long time to go cause it's got a horrible tune. just sayin
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