TC vs, ME?????
yea id like to run a full bolt and tune tc with my current setup and then do it again on around 20psi or so......lol but id def need sum bigger inj......
and actually in the next month or so im gonna pull the motor again and do rod bolts and a new HE wit studs and slightly upping the compression wit a retune and sum 600cc injectors and hoping for around 400rwhp... shouldnt be an issue lol and maybe cushion up the rears alil and slap a slick on it and run a 10 lol
and actually in the next month or so im gonna pull the motor again and do rod bolts and a new HE wit studs and slightly upping the compression wit a retune and sum 600cc injectors and hoping for around 400rwhp... shouldnt be an issue lol and maybe cushion up the rears alil and slap a slick on it and run a 10 lol
Mine doesn't run out of steam after 3rd gear. If I shift into 4th at 90 I am in my peak tq and whp range. It all depends on your tune. Terms tune make the WHP up top for some reason, the trifecta tune I am running makes the power 3/4 the way up to 7K rpms.
Yeah mainly your PSI is based on exhaust pressure built up through the rpm band..... (PSI at the manifold.) when you shift, your rpms drop and they build back up again, and you can reach peak PSI once more. Something is wrong if you car falls on its face after 3rd gear. Mine pulls very very hard in 4th.
i didnt say shifting INTO 3rd, i said AFTER 3rd. obviously 3rd gear is the tcs strong gear. After 3rd gear our 4th is the weak point where many cars with a bigger turbo or a v8 creep on us. you guys can doubt all you want but its the truth....we dont have evos here.
i think your overrating your car a bit man. if you go by your theory your car would pull as hard in 4th as it does in 2nd...it doesnt work that way.
Yeah mainly your PSI is based on exhaust pressure built up through the rpm band..... (PSI at the manifold.) when you shift, your rpms drop and they build back up again, and you can reach peak PSI once more. Something is wrong if you car falls on its face after 3rd gear. Mine pulls very very hard in 4th.
Last edited by Mike09SS; Jan 5, 2010 at 08:52 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Heheh I ran a boosted 240 when I was bone stock and pulled him by a car . Ive seen the kid around but havent run into him to ask him what he had done. Obviously not as much as you. Nice car, if I was in the area I would be down in the spring.
so you are wanting to compare a car with a engine swap to a cobalt with just a tune? that makes a lot of sense lol. oh and its 1000lbs lighter, if you cant beat a tuned tc with that set up maybe you should stay in the pass. side and let someone else drive. i would kind of like to see a 1000hp supra would do against your s13. oh and sorry for lashing out my wii said i was fat LOL
i didnt say shifting INTO 3rd, i said AFTER 3rd. obviously 3rd gear is the tcs strong gear. After 3rd gear our 4th is the weak point where many cars with a bigger turbo or a v8 creep on us. you guys can doubt all you want but its the truth....we dont have evos here.
i think your overrating your car a bit man. if you go by your theory your car would pull as hard in 4th as it does in 2nd...it doesnt work that way.
i think your overrating your car a bit man. if you go by your theory your car would pull as hard in 4th as it does in 2nd...it doesnt work that way.
blah blah race from a roll race from a dig either way it's still a race if the drivers agree... each car has it's strengths and weaknesses. roll race is the best way to determine whether or not one car is faster than the other because rolling doesn't require as much driver skill and eliminates most driver error and lack of skill. so if you're comparing who's car is faster... it's a good way. but to each their own i guess.
congratulations you must officially own the fastest cobalt ss tc in the world. because everyone elses does.
You are just being a jackass now, I know mine is not the fastest, I just know that it doesn't fall on its face after 3rd. Maybe if you got rid of the psychotune and let someone else tune your car you would see that.
no im not. my tune is fine, i dont even have that tune anymore. yours is the only tune that aparently rips after 3rd gear. im not sure you really know what fast is if your claiming that. and please take a video of 114 in 3rd gear id love to see that with these high reving motors we have
i didnt say shifting INTO 3rd, i said AFTER 3rd. obviously 3rd gear is the tcs strong gear. After 3rd gear our 4th is the weak point where many cars with a bigger turbo or a v8 creep on us. you guys can doubt all you want but its the truth....we dont have evos here.
i think your overrating your car a bit man. if you go by your theory your car would pull as hard in 4th as it does in 2nd...it doesnt work that way.
i think your overrating your car a bit man. if you go by your theory your car would pull as hard in 4th as it does in 2nd...it doesnt work that way.
no im not. my tune is fine, i dont even have that tune anymore. yours is the only tune that aparently rips after 3rd gear. im not sure you really know what fast is if your claiming that. and please take a video of 114 in 3rd gear id love to see that with these high reving motors we have 
Last edited by Shibito; Jan 5, 2010 at 06:47 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
I also think you're exaggerating a little on the restrictions of the stock turbo up top. I think it's more of our lower hp compared to other cars. We can beat higher hp cars at lower speeds because of our power to weight ratio. However as wind resistance grows the car with more hp begins to gain the advantage.
My 3rd gear will run to 114 also, but I like to shift just over 6k rather then get that close to 7k.
My 3rd gear will run to 114 also, but I like to shift just over 6k rather then get that close to 7k.
go ahead and make a video of it....and it doesnt even matter because your not making much power shifting that high. stock turbo is inefficient at those revs. its also not because of our lower horsepower, its because our turbo is not efficient up top. why do you think there are miatas making tuned tc power but trap 130. trust me it doesnt have to do with horsepower. power to weight along with an efficient powerband, which our cars dont have with the stock turbo.
go ahead and make a video of it....and it doesnt even matter because your not making much power shifting that high. stock turbo is inefficient at those revs. its also not because of our lower horsepower, its because our turbo is not efficient up top. why do you think there are miatas making tuned tc power but trap 130. trust me it doesnt have to do with horsepower. power to weight along with an efficient powerband, which our cars dont have with the stock turbo.
Not gonna make a video of it because there's snow on the roads here. Sorry but I'm not gonna kill myself. Let alone my winter tires are only rated to 106. As for the stock turbo being inefficient at those rpm's, are you sure it's the turbo and not our fueling restrictions. From what I've read the turbo, regardless of whether it's stock or not, starves for fuel past like 5750RPM's or something like that.



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