i raced a lincoln 2005 ls v8 tonight, the owner of the car told me it was stock with a 375 horsepower motor (he also told me his brother has a miata with the new zr-1 engine lol).... i called bullshit on it so we went for a race. we did a 40 roll and a 60 roll, from a 40 roll i pulled a car immediately switched into 3rd and kept pulling to a bus length + by 120. then we did a 60 roll i pulled a little slower this time but still won by 3 cars +.

i came home looked up the stats on the car,. it only puts out 280 hp and 286 tq at 3650 lbs... thats one weak v8...

my mods are in my sig, how even would this race be stock? does anyone ahve experience with a stock vs stock race?

 

i raced my buddies ls1 with a bunch of mods. He dynoed 345 rwhp and he put buses on me... But im a completely stock ss/sc

 

duhhh did you expect something diff? lol

 

ths guy is a liar tho his car has 280 crank... stock vs stock would be closer... i wonder if the ls would pull top end

 

Nope. I raced one a few weeks ago. I don't know what all was done to it but it had aftermarket exhaust at least. I was behind him about 2 cars when he took off and I followed. We started at about 70ish. It took 3rd to get to his door. Hit 4th and I was gone by many bus lengths. Not really a fair race as I'm a tuned SS/TC. But he wanted to play.

Anyway... no they don't pull much top end. Probably better for a dig race.

 

its rear wheel drive so it definetly has the advantage from a dig.

 

Why are some of you talking about the Lincoln LS, which is a family 4 door car with a 3.9l v8 I believe, not sure if they put something different in it yet, and then some of you are talking about an LS1? Big difference there, Lincoln LS, mid 14's at best, usually high 14's, LS1 low 13's usually.

 

was thinking the same.

 

i hope you beat this guy, those cars dont have 375hp they have 280. he is stupid as all get out.

plus its a effin 4 door and weights a ton!

 

He might not be bullshitting about the miata

I have a friend who has 2 LS Miatas (One an LS6 this one)


and an LS2 in this one



He smoked my (old) 96 Miata with a GT2871 in it (18lbs o boost on a build motor)
(Pictured here)

 

ya but he was saying that the lincoln guy said his bor had a zr1 motors, meaning the new beastly supercharged one. not ls1 or ls2.

 

The older\first lincoln LS V8 had the old Mark VIII motor 4.6L, 32v V8 280 hp
Then got the 275 hp 3.9L V8 ... The Linc LS V8 has never been capable of under low 15 to mid 15's in the 1/4... I had one..... The car does 0-60mph in 6.5-6.8 sec....

I've had a 2001 Z28-SS M6 with 330 hp stock and it ran 13. at 104 mph...
LS1 v8 TA's and Z28 on the other hand could run the 1/4mi in 14.5sec in automatic form to 13.6sec in M6 form, with a really, really good (near professional) driver.

 

He does have a LS9 from a wrecked CTS-V in his garage. (When I was over there a month ago) I am sure its not the lincoln LS's brother though. He is putting that in a customers RX-7 though last he said

 

tell him to put it in my 240.


drift powah.

 

Some of you are not that aware when it comes to cars, the engines they came with and their hp rating....

He can't possibly have the new supercharged ZR1 motor as it's been avaible to the public in crate form only 1 month. And besides, if it was the new supercharged ZR1 motor he'd have told you it had 638 hp... The first ZR1's from 20 years ago had 375 hp the first year or two, before they became exstinct for 20 yrs the power got bumped upto 405 hp in like 1992......

Just so you know: 09' CTS-v has supercharged LSx motor not LS9... some similarities but far from the same motor... Do your home work... LS9 is exclusive to the new ZR1 only......
Make sure the engine he has in his garage came from a 2009 CTS-v..... older models are the LS2 and in the first year, LS6 >> (the old C5 Z06 engine).....

 

exactly what i was saying. i addd the word "supercharged" so no one would confuse it with the older model.

 

well i've never ever heard of a LS1 T/A or Camaro for that matter running a 14.5. . . well actually i have but that was at an elevation of like 2500ft with a DA of nearly 4000.

Stock LS1 are mid to low 13 second cars guys.

the later models 2000-2002 are Low 13's to high 12's.

Just get that into your head.

There have been several Stock 2000 and up SS's and WS6's that have pulled 13.00's consequtively and the occasional 12.90.

and for the record, Professional drivers had broken into the 12's easily with almost all forms of LS1 cars Camaro, T/A, hell even new GTO.

Professional driver hitting 13.6 haha thats laughable dude. Go check out LS1tech there are ugys with Auto T/A WS6's and Camaro SS's running 12.9-13.4, and those are average everyday shmoe's.

13.6 with a professional driver

 

You didn't notice the ? mark did you. I don't know the motor designation but I know its from a CTS-V wreck at sebring. I have done my homework, just because some douche has the ability to use wikipedia doesn't make him better than anyone else.


Also the older CTS-V's were the Z06 motors, and the newer ones Were the LS2's THE 09 is the LSA (Based on the LS9)
I never said the fuggin engine was a crate motor, I said it was from a WRECKED car. Whether or not its an LS9 isn't what I was saying. I was just saying people put crazy **** in miatas. And do your homework, its an LSA engine

 

yo those lincoln LS V8's are beautiful though... i can bet money if that bad boy was stick... which are RARE amongst the LS's... he would of walked you... i was temped to buy one as a daily driver, sit in one and set the seat up right... you'll be like ahhhh so nice so nice. lol

 

ill have to see this miata

the first lincoln ls v8 motor had 252 horsepower, the second motor starting in 2003 had 280 horsepower...

so you think the lincoln would walk me with a manual tranny? than why was i pulling more than a bus from a roll? my question was can a stock cobalt ss/sc beat a lincoln ls v8 from a roll...

 

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/T...lts_636102.htm I didnt expect to hang withthe ls1 at all. I was just curious. The ss/sc would need alot of work to keep up with it. Thats why im thinking about the turbo and alot less money spent and get around 320 whp outta the turbos and would need alot more cash to get 320 whp out of it.

 

alright so he has intake and full exhaust on his ls v8 280 horsepower now.

BUT

i have done 2 things since our last race. i have an injen intake now. i removed 120 lbs of weight from the car, and my boost is holding at 13 psi for some reason.

he wants to roll race again and expects to walk me, opinions?

his car weighs about 3650 lbs, my car weighs somewhere between 2750 and 2800 lbs

 

so, any thoughts?

 

well we had our second race tonight. weight reduction and intake really made a big difference, i pulled more than 4 buses lol

 

maybe at the track you're running at that's the case, but it takes nowhere near a pro driver to run a 13.6 in an ls1.

uh...you did say he had an ls9.