ZX2 vs Cobalt SS/SC
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Time to stoke the fire. I tend to agree, the "slow"
2.4 Cobalt should have a badge other than the SS badge. It would have made sense to call it a Cobalt Z24, you know, for the 2.4 litre engine. To my that should be a no brainer!
2.4 Cobalt should have a badge other than the SS badge. It would have made sense to call it a Cobalt Z24, you know, for the 2.4 litre engine. To my that should be a no brainer!
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So I drive by the local hang out and there are a few cars there. There is a Talon Tsi (25 psi, good for what, low 13's on that little turbo), a couple SRT-4's, some rift-raft, and a 2007 Cobalt SS. So I find the guy driving the SS used to have that old Civic HB. I start talking with him and ask why he got the 'slow' SS. See, it has the small wing on it so I figured it was the 2.2 SS and not the supercharged one. He asked why I said it was slow so I tell him it is because it isn't the SC one, might as well spring for the SC if you are getting the SS. Little did I know that the larger wing was a $500 option for the 2007 model year. He didn't vollenteer the SS/SC info. He takes it a bit personal and ask if I want to put some money on it. I know I can outrun a n/a SS and I tell him that but I don't gamble on races.... usually. So we leave and get on the main road. He slows down to 20 mph wanting to go from a roll. That really sucks, because I'm in 2nd. I get next to him and he motions to go. I slip the clutch a bit but it bogs down (rich ass tune) and drowns itself until it moves out of vaccum into boost. It takes a good 3 seconds to get to full boost since it bogged down so bad. By now (I'm still in 2nd) he has a good car lead on me. Top of 2nd he stops pulling on me. I shift to 3rd and I'm rewarded with a loud backfire. Instant boost in 3rd and I reel him in and put him at my rear bumper just as we let off going about 80 mph. So, I win. I expected to against the non-SC SS. We get back and I get out of the car. I tell him, "Told you it wouldn't beat me." He said it was because he has only had the car for 4 days and he can't drive it that good yet. This guy has had 5-speeds since I've known him, but maybe the SS/SC is hard to learn on. Either way, he was very confident he would win. He didn't. I should have took that bet. I did look under the hood, it was the SS/SC for certain. Chalk another kill up to the 14mpg ZX2. I was going to race a SRT-4, but he didn't come back soon enough, I didn't feel like waiting. I think these guys think it bothers me to lose. I don't mind losing, I just like to race.
Of course I have a new camera but I didn't take it with me. Everytime I do no one races. Some day, I'll get one of these races on video. Ignore the signature, it only holds 8 psi, spikes at 10 psi.
Of course I have a new camera but I didn't take it with me. Everytime I do no one races. Some day, I'll get one of these races on video. Ignore the signature, it only holds 8 psi, spikes at 10 psi.
I know i'll probally recieve flack for speaking my mind, so i'll hold my breath and wait for it to pass, lol.
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The next time I take the bumper off I'll take a pic of the top of the FMIC, it says in big raised letters 'JDM'. It came with the piping kit I bought and that is the only thing I know to call it.
I would hope a 2.4 SS could outrun a stock ZX2. The ZX2 based at $10,995. There have been a couple of guys get a 15.8 bone stock out of this car. So, with a great driver, it would worry anyone in a 2.4 SS. Besides, it would still be the slower SS. Doesn't matter what other cars it beats, it is still the slower SS.
The Gude set-up sucks. The wastegate is fucked and it spikes and destroys motors. It comes with no BOV or engine management and they say that is just fine. Not a great kit to get. Maybe an okay base kit but you really have to upgrade it.
I would hope a 2.4 SS could outrun a stock ZX2. The ZX2 based at $10,995. There have been a couple of guys get a 15.8 bone stock out of this car. So, with a great driver, it would worry anyone in a 2.4 SS. Besides, it would still be the slower SS. Doesn't matter what other cars it beats, it is still the slower SS.
The Gude set-up sucks. The wastegate is fucked and it spikes and destroys motors. It comes with no BOV or engine management and they say that is just fine. Not a great kit to get. Maybe an okay base kit but you really have to upgrade it.
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/\ no you don't speak for everyone here..don't ever let you pea sized brain think that you can... there has been a few SS mistakes in the history books, The 80's monte carlo SS, the 2nd gen S-10 Ss , the 2.4SS cobalt, and the latest malibu SS ( if theres a car in Chevy's lineup that deserves the SS due to heratige, it would have been the malibu, but they did it all wrong) i think the 2.4 cobalt would have made an awesome RS. i like the 2.4 motor and its advanced technology with the VVT in it, there good cars n all..but i dont see it as SS material , but thats just my opnion.
i think its pathetic you all are getting so butt hurt over him supposably beating your kind of cars when you guys sit here and talk about taking down DB9's and lambo's..which i dont bealive much of... its just an internet fourm, your just in economy cars..its not life or death people, get over it
oh yeah feel free to flame me, id have to care for it to bother me
i think its pathetic you all are getting so butt hurt over him supposably beating your kind of cars when you guys sit here and talk about taking down DB9's and lambo's..which i dont bealive much of... its just an internet fourm, your just in economy cars..its not life or death people, get over it
oh yeah feel free to flame me, id have to care for it to bother me
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You continue to make it rain on the hoes, you are doing an excellent job of it.
Just to prove that I don't care if I lose, here is me getting my ass handed to me by a very modded WRX.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/0...2301335c80.htm
Just to prove that I don't care if I lose, here is me getting my ass handed to me by a very modded WRX.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/0...2301335c80.htm
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/\ no you don't speak for everyone here..don't ever let you pea sized brain think that you can... there has been a few SS mistakes in the history books, The 80's monte carlo SS, the 2nd gen S-10 Ss , the 2.4SS cobalt, and the latest malibu SS ( if theres a car in Chevy's lineup that deserves the SS due to heratige, it would have been the malibu, but they did it all wrong) i think the 2.4 cobalt would have made an awesome RS. i like the 2.4 motor and its advanced technology with the VVT in it, there good cars n all..but i dont see it as SS material , but thats just my opnion.
i think its pathetic you all are getting so butt hurt over him supposably beating your kind of cars when you guys sit here and talk about taking down DB9's and lambo's..which i dont bealive much of... its just an internet fourm, your just in economy cars..its not life or death people, get over it
oh yeah feel free to flame me, id have to care for it to bother me
i think its pathetic you all are getting so butt hurt over him supposably beating your kind of cars when you guys sit here and talk about taking down DB9's and lambo's..which i dont bealive much of... its just an internet fourm, your just in economy cars..its not life or death people, get over it
oh yeah feel free to flame me, id have to care for it to bother me
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lol thank you! Finally someone else agrees w/ me! I think people take the "SS" badge just a bit too seriously. Our cars deserve an SS badge just as much as any other SS, as they handle better, have a sportier look and more pep than the base model derivtative.
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here comes the butt hurt
like i said its just an opnion.. no need to get riled up there big shooter
according to Wiki the 2.4 would be worthy of the SS
"Both historically and today, the Super Sport package has typically included high-performance tires, heavy-duty suspension, and increased power, along with a variety of other performance and appearance upgrades. All SS models have come with "SS" markings."
just cause i said somthing does it make it true? absolutely not
does it make it a proven fact that you must debunk? nope
i just dont like the fact all you guys feel the need to attack this ZX2 owner cause he came on here (god knows why) and talked about his run in with the 2.4L SS , you guys calling his car a "grandma's car", or a POS or w/e it was called, isn't fair..any car done up right deserves respect, and that my friend is whats wrong with this damn tuner scene..nobody likes anything done on any car but there own. there no respect for anyone else, there car or what they do to it...in the end i see this car trend as the last hurrah, the way alot of us act twords each other at the track, at shows and on the streets is pathetic..the way we drive on public roads endangering innocent bystanders with reckless speeds is just stupid...im just waiting for the goverment to require all cars to be limited to 75mph max and when all the real car guys are pushed away by the non-sense , the car scene will collapse upon itself with ignorance and hate
like i said its just an opnion.. no need to get riled up there big shooter
according to Wiki the 2.4 would be worthy of the SS
"Both historically and today, the Super Sport package has typically included high-performance tires, heavy-duty suspension, and increased power, along with a variety of other performance and appearance upgrades. All SS models have come with "SS" markings."
just cause i said somthing does it make it true? absolutely not
does it make it a proven fact that you must debunk? nope
i just dont like the fact all you guys feel the need to attack this ZX2 owner cause he came on here (god knows why) and talked about his run in with the 2.4L SS , you guys calling his car a "grandma's car", or a POS or w/e it was called, isn't fair..any car done up right deserves respect, and that my friend is whats wrong with this damn tuner scene..nobody likes anything done on any car but there own. there no respect for anyone else, there car or what they do to it...in the end i see this car trend as the last hurrah, the way alot of us act twords each other at the track, at shows and on the streets is pathetic..the way we drive on public roads endangering innocent bystanders with reckless speeds is just stupid...im just waiting for the goverment to require all cars to be limited to 75mph max and when all the real car guys are pushed away by the non-sense , the car scene will collapse upon itself with ignorance and hate
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Well I know I never bad mouthed the car, I just talked about my car. I have mad respect for anyone who makes any car fast, its what I want to do for the rest of my life. I just see no reason to bad mouth anyones car, there is no winner in those arguments.
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omg did anyone see what halfj just did right there? I think that was the cleanest ending of a huge argument i have EVER seen on this forum. I think this deserves a slow clap.
halfj you need to make your little sub-title, "Peace Maker," or "Momma."
halfj you need to make your little sub-title, "Peace Maker," or "Momma."
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[QUOTE=halfj99;1022389]/\ no you don't speak for everyone here..don't ever let you pea sized brain think that you can... there has been a few SS mistakes in the history books, The 80's monte carlo SS, the 2nd gen S-10 Ss , the 2.4SS cobalt, and the latest malibu SS ( if theres a car in Chevy's lineup that deserves the SS due to heratige, it would have been the malibu, but they did it all wrong) i think the 2.4 cobalt would have made an awesome RS. i like the 2.4 motor and its advanced technology with the VVT in it, there good cars n all..but i dont see it as SS material , but thats just my opnion.
i think its pathetic you all are getting so butt hurt over him supposably beating your kind of cars when you guys sit here and talk about taking down DB9's and lambo's..which i dont bealive much of... its just an internet fourm, your just in economy cars..its not life or death people, get over it
oh yeah feel free to flame me, id have to care for it to bother me[/QUO
did i miss the thread about people racing lamborghini's? all i was trying to say is who gives a **** if it has a ss badge on it. I think to many people bitch about that ****. anywho i really don't give a **** what anyone on this site says i come here for comedy since half of the ppl on here are douche's it makes for some good laughs
i think its pathetic you all are getting so butt hurt over him supposably beating your kind of cars when you guys sit here and talk about taking down DB9's and lambo's..which i dont bealive much of... its just an internet fourm, your just in economy cars..its not life or death people, get over it
oh yeah feel free to flame me, id have to care for it to bother me[/QUO
did i miss the thread about people racing lamborghini's? all i was trying to say is who gives a **** if it has a ss badge on it. I think to many people bitch about that ****. anywho i really don't give a **** what anyone on this site says i come here for comedy since half of the ppl on here are douche's it makes for some good laughs
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Respect for ones car is what started the argument though...most people on here were angry about him disrespecting the guys SS...so therefore the whole treat others as you wish to be treated kicks in...someone disrespects one of our clan then jump on him...
and as for sports cars...if you wanna say the SS/SC isnt a sports car...and the SRT-4 isnt a sports car that is great and all....I want you to explain that to my insurance company every month please...cuz i would love to hear how they respond
and as for sports cars...if you wanna say the SS/SC isnt a sports car...and the SRT-4 isnt a sports car that is great and all....I want you to explain that to my insurance company every month please...cuz i would love to hear how they respond
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I think the biggest issue with the insurance is the fact that it is capable of high speeds but not nearly as capable of stopping or turning and the injury rating is high.
The SS in question is owned by someone I know, if he were a stranger, I might not have asked him why he got the slow SS. Besides, it is all part of the game. Got to give the other drivers some **** to keep them on thier toes.
A lot of you seem to hold high value in respect but only when it is being given to you and not when you should be giving it. Just take a look though the War Stories and you will see for yourself.
The SS in question is owned by someone I know, if he were a stranger, I might not have asked him why he got the slow SS. Besides, it is all part of the game. Got to give the other drivers some **** to keep them on thier toes.
A lot of you seem to hold high value in respect but only when it is being given to you and not when you should be giving it. Just take a look though the War Stories and you will see for yourself.