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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 02:10 PM
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"powdercoating" troubles

So I got some "new" tires Saturday, and was getting them mounted and the dude came out and asked me to go and look at my wheels I was like "umm...all right..." I told them they were powdercoated and to be a lil gentle with them. Well the drivers side front wheel was chipped horribly, that thing was mangled. And I know that powdercoating shouldn't chip, especially like that. You could see the old finish underneath, clear coat and everything!!!



The others didn't look so bad, they were more careful. The guys at the tire place told me they either painted them, and lied to me and said they were powdercoated, or the more probable answer, they powdercoated over the old stuff. I was pretty upset, so I left them a nice message asking for my money back. I don't want a car with nice new tires, and shitty looking wheels that look like I painted them myself. They weren't open this weekend but when I turned my phone on this morning and they left me a message saying they would fix them, including chemical stripping(which they never offered me in the first place. I assumed they would do it right the first time, but apparently they had 2 powdercoating options, powdercoating over the original which is what I got it turns out, or having them stripped) free of charge. I didn't even have to go in there and yell at them!! So I'm taking the car in next Monday, and it'll be done Thursday or Friday. Now my question is, should I get them gloss black like they were before, or a more semi-gloss/flat black?
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 02:16 PM
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semi gloss like that Porsche at AutoToyz
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 02:17 PM
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Yes that's what I was thinking.
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 02:54 PM
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it looks like they took the tire off from the front not the back
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 02:59 PM
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looks like its just paint
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 03:00 PM
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it looks like they took the tire off from the front not the back
Probably not. This place knows what they are doing

They did mine and my wheels were fine
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 03:01 PM
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because generally they media blast them before powder coat
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 03:09 PM
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because generally they media blast them before powder coat
this is how is supposed to be done. it looks like they just powdercoated over the old finish without even scuffing it down. powdercoat will go over paint and look good, until it gets scratched then it will flack like this. it needs to be at the very leasted scuffed so it sticks better. as for gloss options id say gloss.
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 03:16 PM
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Thanks guys! Yeah they're gonna strip them down to the bare metal and re-do them, he said they are no longer offering the option of powdercoating over the original finish because of this lol. Even after this I'd still recommend them, the owner is a nice guy and apologized, and I like that you can bring your car to them and they dismount, remount and rebalance your tires too. Yeah still debating on gloss, or semi-gloss.
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 04:13 PM
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kinda off topic sorry but what was the price for powdercoating all four? and did you have to have the tires off before u took them?
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 05:31 PM
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when I saw the title I thought you were going to bring up a problem I've seen on another forum.

An S2000 owner had his factory wheels powdercoated. He used them during an auto-x event and the spokes had cracked and were on the verge of breaking off completely at the hub.

Apparently, the baking part of the powdercoating process had structurally weakend his wheels. It hasn't been determined if it was the shop he took them to used an improper heat setting or if it's just the powdercoating process itself. Could just be the added stress, no one knows at this point.

Just thought I'd throw this out for discussion since the tc wheels are thin spoked like the s2k wheels are.
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 05:49 PM
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that sucks, i powdercoated my wheels and had them mounted twice, never having this happen, i did 2 coats of black and a coat of clear
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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kinda off topic sorry but what was the price for powdercoating all four? and did you have to have the tires off before u took them?
They were $55 per wheel. But that's without getting them stripped.

Originally Posted by arkkornkid
when I saw the title I thought you were going to bring up a problem I've seen on another forum.

An S2000 owner had his factory wheels powdercoated. He used them during an auto-x event and the spokes had cracked and were on the verge of breaking off completely at the hub.

Apparently, the baking part of the powdercoating process had structurally weakend his wheels. It hasn't been determined if it was the shop he took them to used an improper heat setting or if it's just the powdercoating process itself. Could just be the added stress, no one knows at this point.

Just thought I'd throw this out for discussion since the tc wheels are thin spoked like the s2k wheels are.
Powdercoating shouldn't weaken the wheels.

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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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bc it was a honda.

duh!!!!
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 05:53 PM
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and our wheels are forged
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 05:54 PM
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They were $55 per wheel. But that's without getting them stripped.



Powdercoating shouldn't weaken the wheels.
people over there are still debating this.... and like I said this happened during track use, so...

Originally Posted by reign1
bc it was a honda.

duh!!!!
and I knew this was coming
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 05:55 PM
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powdercoating does not weaken the wheels, at all, what so ever
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 06:00 PM
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Yeah definitely shouldn't affect the wheels at all.
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 06:02 PM
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Yeah definitely shouldn't affect the wheels at all.
if they get baked at 19,500 F then maybe lol
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 06:06 PM
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It happened on 3 of the 4 wheels he had, so.... I dunno

I know nothing about pc'ing, just thought since the wheel design is similar it was worth a warning.

Sorry to threadjack Ris
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 06:07 PM
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Thanks That guy must have just gotten a shitty job or those wheels are bad quality I dunno.
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 06:08 PM
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i have the sport trim LT, and the left front rim powdercoat/clearcoat had bubbled and pealed...i took mine to the dealer...got a new rim out of it
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 06:34 PM
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Nice, don't think I could get a free wheel out of it lol these suckers are expensive. I can't wait to get them redone!!!
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 06:34 PM
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get owned! no wander the place charges u like nothing lol.
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 06:36 PM
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Eh the other places were like $75, not too much more really. One place said they'd do them for $25 per wheel I was like eh...no thanks. But I'm getting them done for free so I can't complain.
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