Does anyone know yet if the ECU flash on stage one is the same as stage 2?

If so, couldn't you just buy stage one and then buy a smaller pully and larger injectors? It would cost alot less?

Could you somehow use the Stages kits in conjunction with the Rev it up or Intense kits?

 

well, all i've heard is that the reflash is the same. So, yea a smaller pulley and bigger injectors would most likely be cheaper, but i think for most of us the warrenty is what's keeping us from doing that!

 

Yes, they are the same. Stage II includes all of stage I and the pulley.

I don't understand why this question came up in all four of the stage kit threads. If you read what the kits include, you will see there is only one re-flash. You don't need to re-flash the computer to give the engine more boost!

 

The main reason i asked was to find out how well the calibration would work with Rev it up or Intense just incase the flash does have a cel fix for intakes.

 

i heard from somewhere the reflash would fix the cell and the idle issue some are having, but im not 100 percent.

 

Oh man, I can't wait to get my stage 1 kit to go along with my 2.8" pulley

 

Hmmm, The GMPP catalog makes it seem as if the tune for each stage is different.

 

If people end up running a 2.8" pulley along with the stage kit, won't more tuning need to be done in order to produce the most power? Ecspecially since the Stage 2 kit is a 3" pulley.

 

I belive you are correct. I stated that in one of the other Stage Kit threads. However, if you don't tune it, I don't think it will harm anything either. You just won't get optimal performance out of it. I wonder if you can use a maf translator to tune it and have very minimal settings???

 

IMO its just not making sense that the reflash from from the two stage are the same because the boost add from the stage 2 need to have a diferrent tuning to output all the power of this boosting mods...thrust me...GM has probably think about that and the reflash is probably not the same...if someone had some proof that the two reflash are the same...show me and i'll shut my mouth...

 

OMG!!!!

Look at the photos below. Now read through them carefully. Stage II simply lets you skip over stage I and gives you the stage I stuff ini it! The only difference between stage 1 & 2 is that stage 2 includes the pulley and drive belt.

Let me explain it this way. You can do three things:

1) Buy stage I (17801947). This gives you the injectors, ECU re-flash and adds 31 HP and 5 ft-lbs of torque. (Total, 236HP - 205 ft-lbs torque)

2) Buy stage 2 (17803229). This gives you the injectors, ECU re-flash (both the same as in stage I), pulley, and drive belt giving you an additional 36 HP and 13 ft-lbs of torque. (Total, 241HP - 218 ft-lbs torque)

3) Upgrade stage I to stage II (17803230). This kit adds the pulley to your existing stage I with no new engine re-flash. (Total, 241HP - 218 ft-lbs torque)

Here is your damb proof, yet again! Maybe you shouldn't be giving your car more power if you can't figure out how staged kits work!

 

Well think about it this way. Don't the stock 2005 cobalt ss/sc's run pig rich? I bet you they make it run pig rich again when they do the reflash so that when you do (if you do) add a supercharger pulley, it will already have the fuel for it thus not making it a problem. But that's just my theory.

 

wow!!!
thats mean that the pulley and the belt is 499.75$.....(17803230 upgrades Stage I to stage II (pulley) $499.75)...make no sense at all

 

um, to be honest, I don't see where it says the reflash will be the same.
point out where it says 'THE SAME FLASH AS STAGE 1' it doesn't. So all assumptions aside, it looks to be the same thing, but there is nothing that says either way. Or does it.? Because I sure don't see that. Until someone posts the contents of each stage kit, it will remain a mystery. Just like the GMPP exhaust I bought, the page showed all the contents of it and the individual numbers. So please, refrain from schooling anyone at this present time on something that is unknown. btw its damn

 

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in the last sentence on this it says combines injectors and ecu recal WITH supercharger pulley.
that is the proof it says that it combines injectors and reflash ( stage one) with supercharger pulley (stage two)

 

Maybe but this article is a bit old right now(like september 2005) we will just be sure when some kit are in stock...

 

again, words are being added. Does it say it combines the two..?? I am beiing literal here, no where does it say its the same as the stage 1 reflrash. It just says it adds the two items to get its results. Am I wrong..?? or does it say something I don't see. That is all I am saying.

 

 

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