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09 2.2 has vTAK!

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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 12:28 PM
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09 2.2 has vTAK!

I just realized the 09's 2.2 have VVT, how does that effect performance? Do the dyno charts look any different then the 05-08 2.2's?
And someone told me the 2.4 intake manifold is a direct fit for the 09 2.2?
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 12:29 PM
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 12:30 PM
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variable valve timing is not vtec..
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 12:32 PM
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mmm im pretty sure the 09's 2.2 are slower than the previous years....but i could be wrong about this...hahahah
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by OBZ
variable valve timing is not vtec..
Thankfully

Originally Posted by boltedbalt
mmm im pretty sure the 09's 2.2 are slower than the previous years....but i could be wrong about this...hahahah
They're a little quicker midrange

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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 01:45 PM
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Confused by this, vtec is a combination of things including variable valve timing, and is quite frickin cool if you ask me. perhaps you should read about it. imagine a v8 w/ vtec...oh yea, it's coming just you wait.

and btw ppl, vtec engagement under spool = sploog. lol
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by warrenb213
Confused by this, vtec is a combination of things including variable valve timing, and is quite frickin cool if you ask me. perhaps you should read about it. imagine a v8 w/ vtec...oh yea, it's coming just you wait.

and btw ppl, vtec engagement under spool = sploog. lol
Yeahh, I'm just messing around. I just can't stand the stereotype honda fanboys talking about their vtak all the time, haha.
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaemon52
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They're a little quicker midrange
Why, because Vtec is superior to VVT?
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 01:49 PM
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Why, because Vtec is superior to VVT?
i would imagine it is, since it isnt just valve timing, but also intake manifold switches air paths doesnt it?
edit: spelling
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 01:50 PM
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 01:51 PM
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I know it's cool tech. , but I'll just never be a huge fan of Honda.
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 01:53 PM
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I know it's cool tech. , but I'll just never be a huge fan of Honda.
You don't have to be a fan to realize how nicely engineered Honda products are.
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 01:53 PM
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 01:53 PM
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i'm not a fan of a motor that only has like 100 torque.
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You don't have to be a fan to realize how nicely engineered Honda products are.
150 hp and 90 tq has never been so nicely engineered
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Projekt
150 hp and 90 tq has never been so nicely engineered
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by shawn672
i would imagine it is, since it isnt just valve timing, but also intake manifold switches air paths doesnt it?
edit: spelling
There many things going on when going Vtec in a Honda. I'd need a diagram to explain it all which I'm at work and do not have the time. Lift and duration is another thing Vtec Hondas do that GM's VVT does not.
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Projekt
150 hp and 90 tq has never been so nicely engineered
domestic ftw?
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Projekt
150 hp and 90 tq has never been so nicely engineered
Hey if that makes you feel better.
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Originally Posted by OBZ
variable valve timing is not vtec..
Correct, VVT is superior in that the power from varying the cams is ALWAYS there, not just a sudden ON switch.

Originally Posted by Jaemon52
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They're a little quicker midrange
Originally Posted by SS4ME
Why, because Vtec is superior to VVT?
It is not, please research how VVT works. VTEC is like an on off switch, where VVT can make up power all the time. VTEC engines begin to drop off power just before it switches lobes.

Originally Posted by shawn672
i would imagine it is, since it isnt just valve timing, but also intake manifold switches air paths doesnt it?
edit: spelling
No, this isn't a Mazda rotary or DSM cyclone manifold.

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i'm not a fan of a motor that only has like 100 torque.
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150 hp and 90 tq has never been so nicely engineered
Amen to that, I'd rather get up and go than wait until my car sounds like it's about to explode before it moves lol.
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by StreetDreamz
Correct, VVT is superior in that the power from varying the cams is ALWAYS there, not just a sudden ON switch.





It is not, please research how VVT works. VTEC is like an on off switch, where VVT can make up power all the time. VTEC engines begin to drop off power just before it switches lobes.



No, this isn't a Mazda rotary or DSM cyclone manifold.





Amen to that, I'd rather get up and go than wait until my car sounds like it's about to explode before it moves lol.
I like this guy
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by StreetDreamz
Correct, VVT is superior in that the power from varying the cams is ALWAYS there, not just a sudden ON switch.





It is not, please research how VVT works. VTEC is like an on off switch, where VVT can make up power all the time. VTEC engines begin to drop off power just before it switches lobes.



No, this isn't a Mazda rotary or DSM cyclone manifold.





Amen to that, I'd rather get up and go than wait until my car sounds like it's about to explode before it moves lol.
I know enough about both and Vtec is better for now. At least performance wise.
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SS4ME
I know enough about both and Vtec is better for now. At least performance wise.
only reason why "vtec" is better is because there is WAY more aftermarket tuning for it, thus people able to "tune" their "vtec" for a extra 20-30 WHP if not more.

VVT doesnt work like that because its countinous.
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Projekt
only reason why "vtec" is better is because there is WAY more aftermarket tuning for it, thus people able to "tune" their "vtec" for a extra 20-30 WHP if not more.

VVT doesnt work like that because its countinous.
No that's not it sorry.
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SS4ME
No that's not it sorry.
well instead of being childish and just saying "no no no" enlighten me.
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