View Full Version : Charge Piping Performance Kit from CIA Installed


reign1
06-11-2009, 10:36 AM
I only have the hot side done at the moment.

I will update later for the cold side.

From what I understand. I am the only one from production that ordered this kit?

Taking off the plastic shit.....
http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/2/7/1/1/1/cp1.jpg



The CP....
http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/2/7/1/1/1/cp2.jpg


Fixed the vaccum problem for Hahn
http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/2/7/1/1/1/cp3.jpg



and the final look
http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/2/7/1/1/1/cp4.jpg



I like this look.


and its not too difficult to get to the oil filter. still harder on the SC

Stamina
06-11-2009, 10:38 AM
You answered my question before I could even ask it. :lol:

Looks great! :twothumbs

Stock?
06-11-2009, 10:40 AM
Thats one sexxxxxy car! Summit White FTW! lol You notice any gains?

reign1
06-11-2009, 10:54 AM
dude the thing spools almost fast than an SC now.

it feels stronger.

I was rolling at 40 in 2nd. pinned it. i spun all of second. hit 3rd. spinnin third.....


i need wider tires...

umrdyldo
06-11-2009, 10:57 AM
Are you tuned? I forgot

Stock?
06-11-2009, 10:58 AM
dude the thing spools almost fast than an SC now.

it feels stronger.

I was rolling at 40 in 2nd. pinned it. i spun all of second. hit 3rd. spinnin third.....


i need wider tires...

Lol! sweet, so did you get your tune before you got your mods? Are you going to re-tune?

reign1
06-11-2009, 11:02 AM
i had my intake and catless DP b4 my tune. got tuned for the catless and the CP.

so no retune needed as of right now.

until more stuff is unlocked from HP tuners..:lol:

umrdyldo
06-11-2009, 11:06 AM
I know this is probably a pointless comment, but how fast would a fully bolted untuned car spool the turbo. I would think it would spool almost instantly.

reign1
06-11-2009, 11:10 AM
pretty close.

but the tune spools it to 25 pretty close to instantly. :lol:

HB_SS/TC
06-11-2009, 11:13 AM
Hmm I wonder if I can just buy the top piece?

Stock?
06-11-2009, 11:14 AM
i had my intake and catless DP b4 my tune. got tuned for the catless and the CP.

so no retune needed as of right now.

until more stuff is unlocked from HP tuners..:lol:

Did you notice a difference before the tune?

reign1
06-11-2009, 11:16 AM
not really. it spiked 17 instead of 15.

but i got tuned a week later so it didnt really learn down too much

Ask beth HB SS/TC.

its still not that expensive for the setup.

come over sat morning. well put in the cold side.

wantedSS/TC
06-11-2009, 11:17 AM
stevo, how much of a pain was it to install the lower portion (cold side). I was looking at it from my car, did you get underneath to install it?

reign1
06-11-2009, 11:23 AM
i havent put in the cold side yet.

only hot. took about an hour and a half with 2 people....

the tbolt clamps were a pain to get them aligned. lol

it wasnt too bad though

Stamina
06-11-2009, 11:28 AM
i havent put in the cold side yet.

only hot. took about an hour and a half with 2 people....

the tbolt clamps were a pain to get them aligned. lol

it wasnt too bad though

Did you remove the front facia or were you able to get to everything easily without having to do that?

reign1
06-11-2009, 11:34 AM
had to remove part of the fender well. and the piece that overlaps the fenderwell underneath

wantedSS/TC
06-11-2009, 11:35 AM
had to remove part of the fender well. and the piece that overlaps the fenderwell underneath

that's what I figured to access the cold side worm clamps ...

FutureEcotecOwner
06-11-2009, 01:04 PM
Shit looks badass man!! I like what you did with the Hahn intake piece, the fix looks good. Hahn sent me the extension piece, but for some reason I cant get the other piece that came with the intake off, so I have yet to put the extension piece on yet.

Terminator2
06-11-2009, 01:24 PM
I only have the hot side done at the moment.

I will update later for the cold side.

From what I understand. I am the only one from production that ordered this kit?

Taking off the plastic shit.....
http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/2/7/1/1/1/cp1.jpg



The CP....
http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/2/7/1/1/1/cp2.jpg


Fixed the vaccum problem for Hahn
http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/2/7/1/1/1/cp3.jpg



and the final look
http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/2/7/1/1/1/cp4.jpg



I like this look.


and its not too difficult to get to the oil filter. still harder on the SC

Looks good I have the same piping. :)

Stamina
06-11-2009, 01:25 PM
Looks good I have the same piping. :)

You've got the performance piping?

ClearImageAuto Dan
06-11-2009, 01:41 PM
Thanks for the write-up. Looks good. The cold side takes between 2 and 2 1/2 hours with the car on ramps. I just went out and did an install at a customers home last weekend. Just pop a couple plastic panel bolts out the bottom and you can simply pull the plastic cover down underneath to access the intercooler. Cold side is a bitch but it seems customers still prefer to go with both sides.

We definitely sell the hot side only.

Terminator2
06-11-2009, 02:02 PM
You've got the performance piping?

Yes I do. I have had it for a few months now. :)

reign1
06-11-2009, 02:12 PM
never saw ur car with it term. ok cool well 2 people with it!

dan im just going to pull the whole entire bumper off to put it on.. no biggie.

Stamina
06-11-2009, 03:23 PM
Man, I'm really wondering about the cold side. Everybody dislikes doing it and says it takes forever to do. I'm wondering what the main problem with it is and why it takes so long... basically just because it's a really tight space?

hallss
06-11-2009, 03:30 PM
how much of a loss would it be to just do the hot side? is it more of a cosmetics thing if i just did the hot?

Stamina
06-11-2009, 03:37 PM
how much of a loss would it be to just do the hot side? is it more of a cosmetics thing if i just did the hot?

I heard that there isn't much gain doing the cold side, since there isn't much flow restriction there, but many people decide to do it too anyway. I think I would too. At the end of the day I just want that plastic off of there.

Terminator2
06-11-2009, 03:37 PM
Man, I'm really wondering about the cold side. Everybody dislikes doing it and says it takes forever to do. I'm wondering what the main problem with it is and why it takes so long... basically just because it's a really tight space?

It was a PITA there is very little space to work in there. It took me 1.5 hours to get it on there.

HB_SS/TC
06-11-2009, 03:38 PM
The hot side is the most restrictive part anyways

reign1
06-11-2009, 03:41 PM
true...

but if u take off the bumper. should be way easier. lol

what do u say david. attempt on sat morning?

Stamina
06-11-2009, 03:41 PM
It was a PITA there is very little space to work in there. It took me 1.5 hours to get it on there.

Ok, thanks for the info.

Whenever I do this I think I'll just go for taking off the facia completely. Maybe it'll help me get up in there better, esp for the cold side.

After hearing so much about the cold side, I'm looking forward to it while not looking forward to it all at the same time. :lol:

HB_SS/TC
06-11-2009, 03:47 PM
dude found out I have to work at 8am Saturday

reign1
06-11-2009, 03:50 PM
fuck

HB_SS/TC
06-11-2009, 03:55 PM
unless you want to install it at the meet lol

reign1
06-11-2009, 03:56 PM
im not going to have my bumper off at the beach!......

maybe...

Stamina
06-11-2009, 04:01 PM
:lol:

HB_SS/TC
06-11-2009, 04:02 PM
We'll both have our bumpers off if I get my charge piping back tomorrow

Stamina
06-11-2009, 04:04 PM
Well, now you both can just take your bumpers off at the beach together... everything's better off at the beach anyway...

marcusicp
06-11-2009, 04:26 PM
never saw ur car with it term. ok cool well 2 people with it!

dan im just going to pull the whole entire bumper off to put it on.. no biggie.

There are more than 2 people with it.

reign1
06-11-2009, 04:38 PM
no one posts it. so i naturally assume. a lot of people didnt like it

Tofu
06-11-2009, 04:42 PM
Has anyone has issues with the stock cold-side piping leaking? If it's of decent construction and doesn't have much restriction in flow I might just buy the hot-side and be done with it.

reign1
06-11-2009, 04:45 PM
plstic=easier heat soak?>

Stamina
06-11-2009, 04:46 PM
Has anyone has issues with the stock cold-side piping leaking? If it's of decent construction and doesn't have much restriction in flow I might just buy the hot-side and be done with it.

I can help you with it when you decide you want to put them on.

I heard that some people couldn't get a kit with hot only. I think some makers are rethinking that now though as it becomes more popular to leave it off.

Edit: If you plan on getting the Stage Kit, I'd recommend having the cold on there though, because then you could fasten both MAP screws instead of one I think. I'm looking into verifying this though. Less chance for a leak too, after they do their hack job to the plastic one.

Tofu
06-11-2009, 04:54 PM
Hey thanks Scott, that sounds like a plan to me! I was looking at some of the pics on CIA's website with the stock cold-side piping and I'm not entirely convinced it's as non-restrictive as I'm lead to believe lol. So I'll probably go with the entire kit.

HB_SS/TC
06-12-2009, 04:05 AM
Hey Steve today's the perfect day to do the install cause I don't have work

SilverSSedan
06-12-2009, 04:20 AM
i gotta get this charge piping.... i cant wait to see the SRI and charge piping on my car...

X2 for getting that plastic out of there.... thats the reason i want that short ram too... little safer incase of water... and seeing that flter insted of hiding it under your headlight looks badass when u pop the hood! :lol:

Thx for posting ur pics!

reign1
06-12-2009, 10:30 AM
david i would if i could. but i work till 430

sherm420
06-12-2009, 12:57 PM
looks good man

MarqueDo7BabyBalt
06-12-2009, 01:04 PM
haha...finally steve..nice man and looks good..and u know I will help u and David out with the piping man..u saw how i looked working on my car at the dyno meet lol....

sheldon729
06-12-2009, 06:34 PM
ppl are having problems with the PCV hose to the hahn intake fiting yet is didnt have a single issue and still dont.
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2655/621/31635310090_large.jpg

reign1
06-12-2009, 06:36 PM
u mean the vaccum line?

mr84monte
06-15-2009, 08:00 AM
I just put the performance version on last night, and there are a couple of things that worry me. One being that the pipe rests against the back of the fan motor and on the other side the clamps sit against the AC line then it sits on top and rubs two lines, one being the black line and the other is the silver line. You can see this in the OP's picture. I did adjust the pipe so it sat off of these lines. But from other posts I've seen on this site things on this motor tend to rub holes. For me, I can't wedge my hand in to get to the oil filter and think I will have to take the top pipe off (at least one side) to get to it.

ninja44
06-15-2009, 08:40 AM
I had thought the CIA kit didn't have any issues?

Nakaiya21
06-15-2009, 09:13 AM
k... have the same kit...hot and cold side....(looks good btw)...

I actually recommend only doing the hot side... you don't really gain anything doing the cold side except now instead of a plastic piece you will have a metal piece. It really isn't worth the hassle. And by hassle I mean you will be embarking on the biggest pita install ever (this was the hardest bolt on of all my performance bolt ons). You do not have to take the bumper or fender off for either side...just remove the headlights (so you have room to work) and unclip the underside of the passenger side for access to the intercooler. The first problem you will run into is trying to undo the cold side (not hard) and get it out (difficult). There isn't a lot of space... Next problem will be getting the pipe back up in there (damn near impossible) to connect up. Did I mention that you can not see the throttle body clearly so you will probably misalign it a couple of times and not get it on properly? Don't worry though... the car has a way of telling you when you have blown the piece off. Make sure that before putting the new pipe on that you redo the sensor and nipple... Finally, if you haven't had enough yet, comes the part where you need to align the intercooler (which will be slightly off - it happens) and avoid crunching your sensors and nipple against all the hardware. If you can get all that, then hooking back up your hose and harness won't be that big of a deal (just hard to reach). Be prepared to blow off your piping at least once (always check the throttle body first) and prepare yourself to scratch up your piece a little....

In the end it is a nice piece (don't get me wrong), but for the aggrevation it causes, it isn't worth getting it...

reign1
06-15-2009, 10:41 AM
u have to turn the t bolt clamps so they dont rub.

mine really does sit perfectly. not on any hoses. it doesnt flex much so im not worried about it hitting or wearing.

wantedSS/TC
06-15-2009, 10:43 AM
u have to turn the t bolt clamps so they dont rub.

mine really does sit perfectly. not on any hoses. it doesnt flex much so im not worried about it hitting or wearing.

for my services of picking you up from the airport, how about some help with the install on the hot side, sound good??? :cssNET:

reign1
06-15-2009, 10:50 AM
thought u said u couldnt get me?

i might be flying into baltimore. Izze might gget me. im figuring this out right now.

but ill still help u sat if need be.

ull need a torx wrench.

wantedSS/TC
06-15-2009, 10:51 AM
thought u said u couldnt get me?

i might be flying into baltimore. Izze might gget me. im figuring this out right now.

but ill still help u sat if need be.

ull need a torx wrench.

Word, thanks!! Let me know on your flight details with Philly .... we can figure something out! ;)

What size torx wrench specifically?

HB_SS/TC
06-15-2009, 10:54 AM
T30 torx

11mm deep socket

7mm socket

Flat head screwdriver

reign1
06-15-2009, 10:56 AM
right on david...

ill let u know matt

wantedSS/TC
06-15-2009, 11:21 AM
T30 torx

11mm deep socket

7mm socket

Flat head screwdriver

thank you sir!!! ;)

right on david...

ill let u know matt

sounds good steveo!

reign1
06-15-2009, 11:34 AM
arg.

wantedSS/TC
06-15-2009, 11:52 AM
arg.

schwat?

reign1
06-15-2009, 12:01 PM
natha

mr84monte
06-16-2009, 03:59 PM
Any chance in getting a picture of how it looks where it goes down (by the electric fan)?
I'll try to get a picture of mine tonight for comparison. I'm not totally convinced that I have it in the correct way. I kept flipping the lower tube around trying to figure out how it goes.

reign1
06-16-2009, 04:02 PM
cold side or hot?

ClearImageAuto Dan
06-16-2009, 06:34 PM
Any chance in getting a picture of how it looks where it goes down (by the electric fan)?
I'll try to get a picture of mine tonight for comparison. I'm not totally convinced that I have it in the correct way. I kept flipping the lower tube around trying to figure out how it goes.

For the lower "hot side", Long side up.
For the "cold side", long side up. (The throttle body end is expanded to 2 3/4" and it would not fit any other way.

I hope this helps.
Thanks guys.

mr84monte
06-17-2009, 12:59 AM
cold side or hot?

Hot side. I just put pictures in my gallery. I'm afraid if I try and post them they'll be red x's. Take a look and see if that's how yours looks if you could. It's not a clear shot but that back side rests right against the Fan, and the clamps do touch the AC line.

Dan I flipped the tube around so many times I forget, but I think I ended up with the long side up (you can probably tell from the pics if you look) To be honest, it took me as long to install the CP (hot) as it did to put Sportlines on the car, and told my wife who was helping that if It ever comes to helping someone install one or the other I'm going springs

oh and btw way sorry for the tread jack.....you can do it to me sometime

reign1
06-17-2009, 01:05 AM
i think i might know.

when u put the silicone cuppling on the turbo. did u push it ALL the way down?

that will pull up some of it and it wont sit to close.

mr84monte
06-17-2009, 01:33 AM
I just went out a took more pics and uploaded them. It's hard to tell from the angle but looks about like yours. I'll have to try and play with it a bit tomorrow, I can see it doesn't look like the turbo clamp is on all the way anyhow.
http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/3/1/4/3/6/100_1167.jpg
http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/3/1/4/3/6/100_1166.jpg

reign1
06-17-2009, 10:38 AM
you have to make sure the piping is in the pretty good man. especially on the turbo.

Stamina
06-17-2009, 01:05 PM
you have to make sure the piping is in the pretty good man. especially on the turbo.

What's interesting is that I noticed my stock piping looks just like that picture above on how high it is connected to the turbo. I tried loosening and pushing it further down the other day, but noticed that that was as low as it would go by design, a bracket prevents it from going down any further.

reign1
06-22-2009, 10:19 AM
Here is an update

Cold Side is in.

it was Hatrickstu, Rootbeer, and Ls1Fbody that helped me put it in. but we got it.

Yes it was a PITA but the car feels pretty Solid now. I looked at the Stock cold side piping and it actually looked like it was being rubbed through which i tohught was odd. but here are some pics!!!


http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/2/7/1/1/1/cold3.jpg


http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/2/7/1/1/1/cold1.jpg

http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/2/7/1/1/1/cold2.jpg

reign1
06-23-2009, 11:16 AM
Upon further inspection of the performance of my vehicle. i am spiking 22-23 PSI and holding 20.


Still feels faster than the stock CP though.

Im happy with it.

wantedSS/TC
06-23-2009, 11:19 AM
some man on man love there :lol:

looks good though!

I don't have enough time for me to jack up my car on stands, so hot side only will work for me ....

thanks for keeping us updated steveo!

reign1
06-23-2009, 11:25 AM
no worries man. it took a while to get that cold side in too

Ill get to see my times this sat at the track

wantedSS/TC
06-23-2009, 11:29 AM
no worries man. it took a while to get that cold side in too

Ill get to see my times this sat at the track

nice, let me know how you do!! me and you will ALMOST be the same (minus tune and cold side) ... I'll be getting tuned though after all my bolt ons though and then it's game on :guns:

reign1
06-23-2009, 11:36 AM
if ur not tuned ur no where close to me dude. u will shit bricks once ur tuned.

and i got a STS in toooooo

wantedSS/TC
06-23-2009, 11:38 AM
if ur not tuned ur no where close to me dude. u will shit bricks once ur tuned.

and i got a STS in toooooo

yeah ... I plan on other minor stuff ... I'm talking major bolt ons for now ..


I'm not tuned now, I will be though once all my bolt ons are on :cool:

reign1
06-23-2009, 12:06 PM
who u going with?

wantedSS/TC
06-23-2009, 01:00 PM
who u going with?

I'm still undecided right now ... probably HPTuners

.
.

you have psychosteve, correct?

reign1
06-23-2009, 01:30 PM
yeah im psyko tuned.

he just went into the military though from what i heard.

hit up area 47

wantedSS/TC
06-23-2009, 01:31 PM
yeah im psyko tuned.

he just went into the military though from what i heard.

hit up area 47

:lol: that's what I meant, psyko tuned ... haha "steve":lol:

reign1
06-23-2009, 01:32 PM
ur seriously going to shit bricks once ur tuned...

julius41282
06-23-2009, 02:06 PM
ur seriously going to shit bricks once ur tuned...

How do you like the STS? Thinkin about picking one up before the sale is over.

reign1
06-23-2009, 02:08 PM
TWM is THE best shifter for this car.

33% reductions

1 in height reduction

the shift is solid. get the bushings.

takes less than an hour if u dont know what ur doing. if u do. like 20 mins

seriously. its such a good change.

julius41282
06-23-2009, 02:32 PM
Ya, I think I am gonna get the gunmetal weighted ball with the bushings. I had just heard of some problems with some other shifters so I wanted to make sure that this one wasn't having the same types of issues. So the rev. lockout and everything still works good too?

reign1
06-23-2009, 03:22 PM
yup yup.

it works good.

i even switched out this twm from my 06 into this one.

NarutoDF
07-01-2009, 11:17 PM
I only have the hot side done at the moment.

I will update later for the cold side.

From what I understand. I am the only one from production that ordered this kit?

Taking off the plastic shit.....
http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/2/7/1/1/1/cp1.jpg



The CP....
http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/2/7/1/1/1/cp2.jpg


Fixed the vaccum problem for Hahn
http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/2/7/1/1/1/cp3.jpg

i actualy put on the hot and cold side 2 days ago. The part that goes to the throttle body and has the sensor in it is the hardest part. The only thing about this part is it is very time consuming. However if you get like 2 other people with you to help out and hang out, it gets done way faster. Me and my 2 friends got the pipe from the throttle body done in 1hr, and CIA says that is the hardest one to do because of its placement. once its on though it looks good. When i have time in between my 2 jobs lol ill try to take some pics.