2.0L LSJ Performance Tech 205hp Supercharged SS tuner version. 200 lb-ft of torque.

boost problem!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 20, 2009 | 02:10 PM
  #1  
07touringcoupe's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 07-23-08
Posts: 743
Likes: 0
From: Maryland
boost problem!

I just put a 75mm on my car from a 77.9mm. But however when I gas it I don't see a increase in boost. It still boosts as a 77.9mm pulley. I'm on 42llbs injectors stock cooling mods and gm tune. why am I not seeing more boost?

Last edited by 07touringcoupe; Jun 21, 2009 at 10:13 AM.
Reply
Old Jun 20, 2009 | 02:50 PM
  #2  
rollingboostedss's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 04-09-06
Posts: 546
Likes: 0
From: Frederick, Maryland
I see you have a gutted cat but are you still with stock cat back and every car is different there is someone on here with a answer
Reply
Old Jun 20, 2009 | 03:45 PM
  #3  
07touringcoupe's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 07-23-08
Posts: 743
Likes: 0
From: Maryland
O n yea I got a gutted cat. And yes I still have stock cat back
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2009 | 10:11 AM
  #4  
07touringcoupe's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 07-23-08
Posts: 743
Likes: 0
From: Maryland
Come on somebody. Its a huge lsj community here. I know somebody knows somethin
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2009 | 02:50 PM
  #5  
rukkee's Avatar
Premium Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: 08-21-06
Posts: 6,574
Likes: 0
From: Western NY
Belt slip? What belt are you running, stage2? Does the car feel any stronger ? You could do the boost bypass mod just to check that it's not something in the bypass solenoid.
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2009 | 03:03 PM
  #6  
07touringcoupe's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 07-23-08
Posts: 743
Likes: 0
From: Maryland
Originally Posted by rukkee
Belt slip? What belt are you running, stage2? Does the car feel any stronger ? You could do the boost bypass mod just to check that it's not something in the bypass solenoid.
Yea I'm running the stage 2 belt. Belt slip? I don't think so. I'd feel that right. Belt slip would feel like I wasn't goin anyway right or like the car was in neutral. I don't know if the car feels faster or not. It does but the gauge doesn't read more boost. And what's the boost bypass mod? What does the bypass soleinold have to do with boost?
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2009 | 03:24 PM
  #7  
Karlen89's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 09-28-06
Posts: 4,159
Likes: 0
From: Manhattan, KS
How much boost is it reading?
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2009 | 03:26 PM
  #8  
07touringcoupe's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 07-23-08
Posts: 743
Likes: 0
From: Maryland
Originally Posted by Karlen89
How much boost is it reading?
14.5-15psi
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2009 | 05:42 PM
  #9  
Karlen89's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 09-28-06
Posts: 4,159
Likes: 0
From: Manhattan, KS
I'm running a 77.9, Stage 2 and getting 16.

I'd always heard of being careful dropping pulleys on 42's. Bout all I can tell you.
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2009 | 05:51 PM
  #10  
07touringcoupe's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 07-23-08
Posts: 743
Likes: 0
From: Maryland
Originally Posted by Karlen89
I'm running a 77.9, Stage 2 and getting 16.

I'd always heard of being careful dropping pulleys on 42's. Bout all I can tell you.
But I have a huge thread out talkin about it and everyone told me I'd be ok with the pulley size I dropped to
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2009 | 06:17 PM
  #11  
wtpcobaltss's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: 01-25-08
Posts: 355
Likes: 0
From: bowling green ky
either gm tuned it lower cuz of the injector size or its defenitly the gutted cat..if u gutted the cat after dropping pullies then u freed up backpressure. so really ur running a more efficient 15 psi then someone running same 17 psi on a stock exhaust sysem...boost doensnt equal power...the more boost the more pressure the more pressure equals more heat in the system. i put on the ott stage 1 with 2.8 and was hitting 20 psi so i cut out the cat ran a straight pipe and but a v2 header on to relive pressure now i run 17 psi and its much more powerful. gutting the cat is ur reason im almost 100 percent sure. iwouldnt worry about saying i have 22 lbs of boost on race day when its as efficent as 18 on a good exhaust setup.. ur 15 psi is probably equal to 17 but safer. plus its cooler smoking another cobalt running more boost. there like damn son how did u beat me.
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2009 | 06:28 PM
  #12  
07touringcoupe's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 07-23-08
Posts: 743
Likes: 0
From: Maryland
Originally Posted by wtpcobaltss
either gm tuned it lower cuz of the injector size or its defenitly the gutted cat..if u gutted the cat after dropping pullies then u freed up backpressure. so really ur running a more efficient 15 psi then someone running same 17 psi on a stock exhaust sysem...boost doensnt equal power...the more boost the more pressure the more pressure equals more heat in the system. i put on the ott stage 1 with 2.8 and was hitting 20 psi so i cut out the cat ran a straight pipe and but a v2 header on to relive pressure now i run 17 psi and its much more powerful. gutting the cat is ur reason im almost 100 percent sure. iwouldnt worry about saying i have 22 lbs of boost on race day when its as efficent as 18 on a good exhaust setup.. ur 15 psi is probably equal to 17 but safer. plus its cooler smoking another cobalt running more boost. there like damn son how did u beat me.
I totally understand what you are talkin about. I gutted my cat when i had only a intake because on my bros speed3 at the time. He clogged his cat and i said i wasnt goin thru that so i gutted mine. That was way before i went stage 2 and way before i dropped to a 75mm. I mean the car feels faster but that could be my mind is playing tricks on me since i know i got a smaller pulley. But it boosts the same as stage2 did
Reply
Old Jun 24, 2009 | 02:10 AM
  #13  
TonyTuna's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: 08-10-07
Posts: 283
Likes: 0
From: Vallejo, California
Seen this post and i am having the same.."problem" i guess you could call it. Was running a 2.9 with intake, vibrant header/dp/exhaust and hi flow cat. 15-16psi

I recently swapped another member my stock sc with his (its mildly ported) and i changed to a 2.8 pulley. So now i have 2.8 and ported sc with my previous intake/exhaust set up. Car feels slighly more powerful but i get about the same boost readings 15.5-16psi

Could this be my problem as well?
Reply
Old Jun 24, 2009 | 02:12 AM
  #14  
EXsoccer1921's Avatar
Senior Member
Platinum Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: 05-04-08
Posts: 36,934
Likes: 2
From: The 405
if you gutted the cat at the same time you switched pulley's thats why you're not seeing an increase
Reply
Old Jun 24, 2009 | 08:52 AM
  #15  
07touringcoupe's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 07-23-08
Posts: 743
Likes: 0
From: Maryland
I gutted my cat before I swapped pulleys. I gutted my cat only while I had a intake before I went stage 2

Originally Posted by TonyTuna
Seen this post and i am having the same.."problem" i guess you could call it. Was running a 2.9 with intake, vibrant header/dp/exhaust and hi flow cat. 15-16psi

I recently swapped another member my stock sc with his (its mildly ported) and i changed to a 2.8 pulley. So now i have 2.8 and ported sc with my previous intake/exhaust set up. Car feels slighly more powerful but i get about the same boost readings 15.5-16psi

Could this be my problem as well?
This most likely is your problem as well. Listen we gonna help eachother out. Ok do you have any cooling mods? (Meth front mount etc) I think we boosting lower becuase of heat soak maybe? Get on it before you car gets near reg temps. Like almost as soon as you start your car ans see if you boost higher! I did that yesterday and I was at like 16.5 psi but once my car got hot it went back down normal to the 14.5 and felt much slower also. So I'm thinking its heatv soak. Do that and post what happens

Last edited by 07touringcoupe; Jun 24, 2009 at 08:52 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Reply
Old Jun 24, 2009 | 12:51 PM
  #16  
rukkee's Avatar
Premium Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: 08-21-06
Posts: 6,574
Likes: 0
From: Western NY
Originally Posted by 07touringcoupe
And what's the boost bypass mod? What does the bypass soleinold have to do with boost?
If you do the Boost bypass mod, it basically takes away all computer control over boost, it keeps the bypass closed no matter what. The reason i suggested it was to help diagnose if it's the computer bleeding off boost for some reason....... or rule it out as not the culprit.

Gutting you cat can drop boost PSI too, but the car should feel stronger , not slower.
Reply
Old Jun 24, 2009 | 12:56 PM
  #17  
07touringcoupe's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 07-23-08
Posts: 743
Likes: 0
From: Maryland
O ok well I'm goin to do that soon haven't done it yet. So questions what to do if the bypass works? Then what. What to do if the bypass doesn't work?
Reply
Old Jun 24, 2009 | 12:58 PM
  #18  
BLAZIN07SS's Avatar
I'm too JDM for you
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: 06-05-07
Posts: 16,357
Likes: 1
From: Miami, Florida
Originally Posted by TonyTuna
Seen this post and i am having the same.."problem" i guess you could call it. Was running a 2.9 with intake, vibrant header/dp/exhaust and hi flow cat. 15-16psi

I recently swapped another member my stock sc with his (its mildly ported) and i changed to a 2.8 pulley. So now i have 2.8 and ported sc with my previous intake/exhaust set up. Car feels slighly more powerful but i get about the same boost readings 15.5-16psi

Could this be my problem as well?
ported blower lowers boost levels. remember boost is only a measure of pressure, not airflow
Reply
Old Jun 24, 2009 | 01:05 PM
  #19  
07touringcoupe's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 07-23-08
Posts: 743
Likes: 0
From: Maryland
Originally Posted by rukkee

Gutting you cat can drop boost PSI too, but the car should feel stronger , not slower.
It does feel stronger but idk but as stated I gutted the cat way before I swapped pulleys
Reply
Old Jun 24, 2009 | 03:32 PM
  #20  
TonyTuna's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: 08-10-07
Posts: 283
Likes: 0
From: Vallejo, California
Originally Posted by 07touringcoupe
I gutted my cat before I swapped pulleys. I gutted my cat only while I had a intake before I went stage 2



This most likely is your problem as well. Listen we gonna help eachother out. Ok do you have any cooling mods? (Meth front mount etc) I think we boosting lower becuase of heat soak maybe? Get on it before you car gets near reg temps. Like almost as soon as you start your car ans see if you boost higher! I did that yesterday and I was at like 16.5 psi but once my car got hot it went back down normal to the 14.5 and felt much slower also. So I'm thinking its heatv soak. Do that and post what happens
I have 2.8, ported sc, injen intake, vibrant header, downpipe with hi flow cat, and exhaust, h/e, stu mod.

I think i was boosting slightly lower due to warmer weather round my area lately (i.e. heat soak in 98* weather) and also due to the fact that i have a ported sc now. I guess i havent gotten used to it yet, im a believer now more psi doesnt always equal more power. Thank you Blazin.

On a side note just for reassurance on my part i went out round midnight the other night and made a few passes, it was much cooler last nite in my area, i saw .5 to almost 1 full psi of more boost. Didnt do nuttin just ran at night. 17psi

I also tried the boost bypass mod, didnt do nuttin for me.
i also tried moving the hose on the other side (front side) of the boost bypass solenoid to the bottom male fitting instead of the top. I actually saw less boost when i did this. Just seen it and figured id try it.
Reply
Old Jun 24, 2009 | 03:41 PM
  #21  
07touringcoupe's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 07-23-08
Posts: 743
Likes: 0
From: Maryland
Ok this isn't ur prob. U good
Reply
Old Jun 24, 2009 | 03:53 PM
  #22  
TonyTuna's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: 08-10-07
Posts: 283
Likes: 0
From: Vallejo, California
I hope so..thanks

Was wondering have you or anyone else here tried to move the hose on the top front side of the bypass valve to the bottom fitting instead of it being on the top and what exactly does it or is it supposed to do? I know the bottom fitting on mine had like this little foam crap just barely pushed in and around it, kinda covering it and 2 hooks on either side of it. what is the bottom fitting for and why it it just left open like that?

I figured this was the bleeder fitting for the "excess" boost pressure above 15psi but not sure.
Reply
Old Jun 24, 2009 | 04:18 PM
  #23  
Stiner's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 11-06-06
Posts: 992
Likes: 0
From: Pontypool, Ontario
Do you have HP T? if so I can help
Reply
Old Jun 24, 2009 | 08:34 PM
  #24  
TonyTuna's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: 08-10-07
Posts: 283
Likes: 0
From: Vallejo, California
No i dont..sadly enough. I have bin considerin gettin a tune tho and some 60s just need the dough and good local tuner but i can wait.
Reply
Old Jun 25, 2009 | 04:18 PM
  #25  
07touringcoupe's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 07-23-08
Posts: 743
Likes: 0
From: Maryland
Ok so I did the boost bypass and no increase in boost. So what's next?
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
turbochargedss2012
2.0L LNF Performance Tech
11
Sep 20, 2023 12:17 PM
KMO43
Front Page News
33
Jan 12, 2016 12:01 AM
717ssbalt
2.0L LNF Performance Tech
9
Oct 2, 2015 04:01 PM
DocSvensk
2.0L LNF Performance Tech
7
Sep 27, 2015 02:24 PM
Adiaz1ss
Problems/Service/Maintenance
4
Sep 26, 2015 11:51 PM




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:26 PM.