View Full Version : TNT Autosport now sells the 2.2L Turbo Kit!
TCarter 02-12-2007, 04:03 AM Yes, thats right! We are the first Supporting Vendor on the CobaltSS.Net website to bring to you the 2.2L Turbo Kit ready for shipment now!
http://www.tntautosport.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1_8_10
or just procede to: www.tntautosport.com and look under 2.2L > Performance!
Spectral 02-12-2007, 04:06 AM Wow 212 WHP thats freaking nice.
Florida 76 02-12-2007, 07:33 AM yeah cant wait to get one and smoke some 2.0's
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g5mike 02-12-2007, 07:38 AM Is this as far as this kit goes on stock internals??? guess some folks will also be needing a clutch at the same time
oops! should have read first.
05REDROCKET 02-12-2007, 08:00 AM yeah cant wait to get one and smoke some 2.0's
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212 ain't gonna beat the SS/SC!
TNT Have you guys test fitted this on a 2.2 and sucessfully tuned it?
06_ion2 02-12-2007, 08:10 AM 212 ain't gonna beat the SS/SC!
TNT Have you guys test fitted this on a 2.2 and sucessfully tuned it?
this kit is/will be on 2 ions and one balt that i know of as of now so yes it does work and the piggyback was also used so it all works fine
distillion 02-12-2007, 08:25 AM 212 ain't gonna beat the SS/SC!
TNT Have you guys test fitted this on a 2.2 and sucessfully tuned it?
:lol:
a nice bump in power but i wouldnt say youd be smoking any SS SC's especially heavily modded ones, props to TNT for taking care of all the cobalt trims:twothumbs
louiefan 02-12-2007, 10:08 AM nice, but 3500, that is american right?!
damn if so thats 4107!!! wish i had the cash...:thumbsdow :thumbsdow
Cobalt_SSTuner 02-12-2007, 10:12 AM how hard was it tuning this bad boy?
bc3tech 02-12-2007, 10:52 AM 212 ain't gonna beat the SS/SC!
TNT Have you guys test fitted this on a 2.2 and sucessfully tuned it?
TNT has not (TMK) but the creator, Alpine Developments (http://alpine-developments.us)[link (http://alpine-developments.us)], has. Reps from SpeedMafia (http://www.speedmafia.com)[link (http://www.speedmafia.com)] were also present throughout the process and have experience w/ the kit.
how hard was it tuning this bad boy?
tuning is done via the Perfect Power SMT6 (http://www.perfectpower.com/products/smt6.asp)[link (http://www.perfectpower.com/products/smt6.asp)] connected to a laptop. The original fit on the 2.2 cobalt, IIRC from my convos w/ reps at the companies, took ~4hrs on the dyno to custom tune. however, it is my understanding that alpine will ship this unit for tuned @ 8psi for your altitude, which i'm guessing you'd need to (or want to) specify when ordering else they'd probably key it off your zip code.
This is the kit that sw4y has on his ride and was talking about after he got it done.
TCarter 02-12-2007, 01:29 PM Correct, We ordered some, and will be putting them on my fiance's vehicle to give you all our "Review" of it.
And yes. Price is $3500 USD + $100 shipping due to weight.
HatedCobalt 02-12-2007, 05:07 PM nice thought but that kit looks cheaply made. i rather wait adn buy something that actully looks nice. hell for 3500 i could make my own kit from turbonetics parts.....plusi have an an 07 lot so i dont need the piggy back junk...i can tune my fmu no problem...
louiefan 02-12-2007, 05:18 PM nice thought but that kit looks cheaply made. i rather wait adn buy something that actully looks nice. hell for 3500 i could make my own kit from turbonetics parts.....plusi have an an 07 lot so i dont need the piggy back junk...i can tune my fmu no problem...
not everyone has an 07 there cocky..
nramlow2006 02-12-2007, 05:21 PM im excited....
bc3tech 02-12-2007, 05:29 PM UPDATE / ALERT: the turbos included in this kit are currently on backorder from Bog Warner. expect a bit of a delay (won't get to the kit manufacturer until Tuesday / Wednesday) if you order now.
8cd03gro 02-12-2007, 05:48 PM 212 ain't gonna beat the SS/SC!
TNT Have you guys test fitted this on a 2.2 and sucessfully tuned it?
ehhh, don't be so sure yet. depending on the turbo it could spool pretty damn fast, and make some mean torque depending on the setup. won't smoke an ss/sc, but could be a bit faster. wait to see some dyno's.
Spectral 02-12-2007, 05:50 PM 212 ain't gonna beat the SS/SC!
TNT Have you guys test fitted this on a 2.2 and sucessfully tuned it?
the 212 is whp which is more than a stock ss s/c so it could be a nice little race.
bc3tech 02-12-2007, 05:51 PM ehhh, don't be so sure yet. depending on the turbo it could spool pretty damn fast, and make some mean torque depending on the setup. won't smoke an ss/sc, but could be a bit faster. wait to see some dyno's.
sw4y's already got the dynos IIRC.
8cd03gro 02-12-2007, 05:54 PM AHA!
"Dyno Proven 212 Wheel Horsepower and 224 Wheel Torque"
224 wtq > stock ss/sc and the hp is about the same.
bc3tech 02-12-2007, 05:55 PM http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=44321
same exact kit as you'll be getting.
biniecki 02-12-2007, 07:42 PM will this be ok to use on an automatic? I noticed it said it was tested on a manual vehicle.
HunterKiller89 02-12-2007, 08:00 PM :lol:
a nice bump in power but i wouldnt say youd be smoking any SS SC's especially heavily modded ones, props to TNT for taking care of all the cobalt trims:twothumbs
...change the wastegate settings and there ya go...
turbo is 300hp capable...so...yea
IonNinja 02-12-2007, 09:48 PM AHA!
"Dyno Proven 212 Wheel Horsepower and 224 Wheel Torque"
224 wtq > stock ss/sc and the hp is about the same.
its not going to be the HP that wins the race for the LS it'll be the TQ. too many LSJ guys are caught up on HP. 224wtq vs 180-190wtq from an SS/SC...thats a big diff.
Stock SS/SC's will be no problem...its the stage 2 + bolt ons & up SS/SC's that you'll have to worry about.
The power adder aint the issue at that point though its the bottom end.
TCarter 02-12-2007, 11:13 PM Turbo's are easily capable of getting the power you want. Upgraded engine internals, boost controller, and turn it up...if needed, throw on a bigger turbo, change the injectors and such.
Michael_13 02-12-2007, 11:53 PM will this be ok to use on an automatic? I noticed it said it was tested on a manual vehicle.
I second this question.
celicacobalt 02-12-2007, 11:56 PM its fine on the automatic, ive already verified that with john at alpine. im still in between this kit and garretts kit...
HunterKiller89 02-13-2007, 12:24 AM its fine on the automatic, ive already verified that with john at alpine. im still in between this kit and garretts kit...
im waiting on garrett...and the last $500 i need to hit 3.5k
seriously been savin since october 3rd and only spent about $50 of my total income...god damn minimum wage jobs..lol
knopdm 02-13-2007, 01:33 AM To bad this kit still doesnt help anyone with secondary air injection. I would buy it if i didnt have that damn SAI.
TCarter 02-13-2007, 01:48 AM To bad this kit still doesnt help anyone with secondary air injection. I would buy it if i didnt have that damn SAI.
if your only reason as to not get this kit because you have some sort of aftermarket intake, i suggest you rethink it.
It would be easier to sell your intake, and get this. Far too much power.
HunterKiller89 02-13-2007, 02:05 AM To bad this kit still doesnt help anyone with secondary air injection. I would buy it if i didnt have that damn SAI.
SAI wont affect a turbo set-up
a turbo set-up would give you new headers and a new intake, replacing the SAI on your stock headers and intake
knopdm 02-13-2007, 02:09 AM no no. Secondary air injection(SAI) is an emissions control device that gm put on mid to late year 06 cobalts. its an air pump that is tied into our intakes and exhaust manifolds. If i were to install the alpine turbo kit i would have to take the secondary air injection system off. Then i would have a ton of check engine light issues. Untiil a company is able to reflash our computers to delete the SAI, us mid to late year 06's are SOL.
TCarter 02-13-2007, 02:52 AM ahhh..i thought you meant SRI (short ram intake).
lol.
Michael_13 02-13-2007, 09:55 AM How can i tell if I have SAI?
Of course I bought mine in like April.
knopdm 02-13-2007, 10:31 AM http://cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=38488
YellowLT 02-13-2007, 10:40 AM So you are no longer using that crappy Manual Fuel Management?
celicacobalt 02-13-2007, 10:43 AM im waiting on garrett...and the last $500 i need to hit 3.5k
seriously been savin since october 3rd and only spent about $50 of my total income...god damn minimum wage jobs..lol
if you have 3 grand saved you have enough already, but dont think you are not gonna have to buy other stuff on top of the kit if you want to do it rght
Speed Mafia 02-13-2007, 11:40 AM This kit I have personally seen and drove and all I can say is wow...!
My opinion on this kit is it should of came from the factory this way, I saw someone say it looked crappy? the turbo is good up to 300hp, all piping is mandrel bent, and Chromed, all Silicone fittings are the same and high quality, manifold is casted specific for the 2.2L/2.4L engine w/heat shield (sits farther on the drivers side for heat reasons, not like other kits in the middle)heat shield blanket on fire wall to insure heat protection, air hat is designed to swirl around air so when the 5th injector ads fuel there is no puddling and a proper mix of air/fuel is mixed together, Tuning via SMT-6 you have control of your air/fuel, pull timing (timing control) and data logging, down pipe designed specific to the Cobalt, Cold Air Intake designed w/fatty K&N Air Filter up front by bumper fitted with MAF Sensor, Piping designed for front mount intercooler... all in all the kit was designed for longevity and constancy and continuous power...with room to grow!
Therefore, for the people that want to go internals and more boost it is a 1-time investment!
In addition, this kit strapped on to a Cobalt LS did run a Cobalt SS/SC and the winner was the Cobalt LS! so this kit has already beat a stock SS/SC, and rumors are it runs with EVO's and modded SS/SC and vids soon to come to prove this "Rumor"...
Therefore, for 3500 you are getting a hell of a Turbo kit! Alpine designs these kits so it looks like it came from the dealer but out performs modified cars like the SS/SC stock for stock.
Again, I am truly impressed with this kit and you will not believe it until you drive it!
In addition, someone said they would do a FMU…? On a return less fuel line setup, you would need to go with a DFMU to control fuel and in fact, I know someone is selling one at a great price! So yes, FMU digital will work as well but for the price and control SMT-6 FTW!
Thanks Kevin
HunterKiller89 02-13-2007, 01:05 PM if you have 3 grand saved you have enough already, but dont think you are not gonna have to buy other stuff on top of the kit if you want to do it rght
...such as? whats the kit missing?
Speed Mafia 02-13-2007, 02:09 PM ...such as? whats the kit missing?
Boost gauge
wide band
gauge pod/pillar
the simple stuff :)
HunterKiller89 02-13-2007, 02:11 PM oo..yea, i know that stuff, im all good
TCarter 02-13-2007, 02:58 PM Boost gauge
wide band
gauge pod/pillar
the simple stuff :)
we are going to be offering gauges asap. Probably as of tomarrow 2/14/07.
Speed Mafia 02-13-2007, 03:22 PM oo..yea, i know that stuff, im all good
You going to boost that beauty or what! :guns:
8cd03gro 02-13-2007, 05:06 PM Boost gauge
wide band
gauge pod/pillar
the simple stuff :)
some suspension work to get that power to the ground. alot of people don't realize how faster suspension work can make your car along with some nice sticky tires.
Florida 76 02-13-2007, 05:19 PM damm YellowLT did you just get a 360 and alot of games? now get working on them achievements.
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celicacobalt 02-13-2007, 07:32 PM well with turbo kit, you should have a catback exhuast, high flow bigger cat, proper gauges, and dyno/install time which is big money
smartmlp 02-13-2007, 08:03 PM Is there any way to just get the computer we need for people who plan to make their own turbo kit?
NGASales 02-13-2007, 08:15 PM http://www.alpine-developments.us/chevy_cobalt.html There is the link to the dynos, didnt see it posted.
as for running with Evos I really dont think 206hp and 220 tq is going ot run with an AWD evo, maybe if he is a horrible driver. But who knows, i have a guy down here with a evo with few mods running 11's so who really knows these days with cars
sunrise_mj 02-13-2007, 08:40 PM Is there any way to just get the computer we need for people who plan to make their own turbo kit?
x2
id like the manifold and tuning adjustments only... oh and a way to tune that auto trans lol
BLKLS 02-13-2007, 09:23 PM so when the 5th injector ads fuel there is no puddling and a proper mix of air/fuel is mixed together,
so this kit uses a extra injector to add fuel only under boost conditions is that correct? if that is so then the computer still hasn't been cracked correct?
TCarter 02-13-2007, 10:08 PM Yes, the piggyback is why that 5th injector adds fuel, and it changes the A/F ration automaticly..
And yes, it is only under boost. it comes with a built in 2.5Bar MAP sensor.
celicacobalt 02-13-2007, 10:25 PM as far as i know the 2.2 can still tune the transmission but youd have to find a shop that uses hp tuners to give it a shot. on just getting the pieces andnot the whole kit i know you can buy the smt6 alone and tune it yourself but the mainfold from alpine i think he is refusing to sell alone, he wants you to buy the whole kit but thats just what i heard.
TCarter 02-13-2007, 10:31 PM Celica, this is incorrect. I spoke with them and we can buy individualy.
celicacobalt 02-13-2007, 10:42 PM cool, i thought someone said he wouldnt just sell the manifold. cool though
HunterKiller89 02-13-2007, 11:30 PM You going to boost that beauty or what! :guns:
god yes, thats what ive been savin for
3.5 on a kit, .2 on springs, and 1k on rims/tires (goin .5in wider too), prolly in this order as well
05REDROCKET 02-13-2007, 11:31 PM the 212 is whp which is more than a stock ss s/c so it could be a nice little race.
Stock SS/SC's dyno more around 220 to 230 whp.
And a bump for TNT making some 2.2 power!
IonNinja 02-14-2007, 10:02 AM http://www.alpine-developments.us/chevy_cobalt.html There is the link to the dynos, didnt see it posted.
as for running with Evos I really dont think 206hp and 220 tq is going ot run with an AWD evo, maybe if he is a horrible driver. But who knows, i have a guy down here with a evo with few mods running 11's so who really knows these days with cars
that would be from a roll of course. while they run much quicker 1/4 mile times their trap speeds aren't anything that we can't accomplish.
RollOver360 02-14-2007, 11:48 AM This is great. Unfortunately I am one of those"lucky" cobalt owners with the SAI. Has Alpine discussed a way to solve this problem yet? If their is a way to get around it so I dont have CEL's it would be sick. Well it would be sick to have a 2.2 base with a turbo... for $4,000...
later
TCarter 02-14-2007, 02:27 PM I'll throw them a email asking about the SAI and let you all know.
RollOver360 02-14-2007, 02:36 PM I'll throw them a email asking about the SAI and let you all know.
Sweet, thanks a lot! Hopefully their is good news!
later
TCarter 02-14-2007, 02:39 PM Hopefuly :) :twothumbs
RollOver360 02-14-2007, 02:49 PM Anyone have any idea on what it might cost to have this installed? Never installed a turbo before and dont really want to risk it.
Everyone cross there fingers and hope it will work or something will work for the SAI.
later
Speed Mafia 02-14-2007, 02:54 PM Anyone have any idea on what it might cost to have this installed? Never installed a turbo before and dont really want to risk it.
Everyone cross there fingers and hope it will work or something will work for the SAI.
later
norm is about 600-800 usd
artawesome 02-14-2007, 04:25 PM Anyone have any idea on what it might cost to have this installed? Never installed a turbo before and dont really want to risk it.
Everyone cross there fingers and hope it will work or something will work for the SAI.
later
this and how long would it take to install the kit?
TCarter 02-14-2007, 04:35 PM if your handy with wrenches, the kit is pretty easy to do it yourself.
back in the day not knowing a damn thing about cars, but liking them...i installed a turbo kit.
its pretty self explanatory, an average kit will take you 20ish hours for your 1st time, so plan a weekend.
however, if you start in the am, you can finish at about 8pm, just intime to go cruise and smoke the doors off of some cars.
bc3tech 02-14-2007, 04:51 PM ...just intime to go cruise and smoke the doors off of some cars.:nono:
u mean, in time to go cruise and treat your car nicely until you're 110% the tune's correct & u're not leaking oil... :twothumbs
TCarter 02-14-2007, 05:09 PM :nono:
u mean, in time to go cruise and treat your car nicely until you're 110% the tune's correct & u're not leaking oil... :twothumbs
.............of course. :lol:
Delta2.2 02-14-2007, 09:39 PM does it include a intercooler?
edit:ya i found it air to air
Speed Mafia 02-15-2007, 12:40 AM does it include a intercooler?
edit:ya i found it air to air
Delta...i can say it is a sick kit! i drove the car that duane had done and it was very sick and fast for a bolt on! i cant even imagine with forged internals and boost controller!
sunrise_mj 02-15-2007, 08:46 PM so hptuners can work the autotrans, great.
Sw4y1313 02-16-2007, 12:08 AM Im getting about 2k back from taxes =P Get ready for some forged internals.
jperris 02-16-2007, 07:50 PM i have an an 07 lot so i dont need the piggy back junk...i can tune my fmu no problem...
if it is possible to tune the fmu on an '07, what hardware/software/tools do you need?
TCarter 02-16-2007, 08:08 PM Just FYI to those who are wondering, The guy with the nickname "Speed Mafia" was closely involved in the development of the kit. So his testimonials are vouched for.
Speed Mafia 02-17-2007, 02:28 AM Im getting about 2k back from taxes =P Get ready for some forged internals.
Duane are you telling me i need to get a motor ready for you with forged internals! if that is the case i will have to see if i can get you and BC3tech out here to denver and you guys can have it out...May the best man win!
Forged 2.2L ION w/Procharger
Vs.
Forged 2.2L Cobalt w/Turbo
ding ding!:guns:
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