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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 10:29 AM
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Non-warranty voiding turbo kit??

Call me crazy, but I've heard this coming up recently in many conversations with chevy techs and service writers. But it is being said that GM or some company whom GM endorses is selling a turbo kit that will NOT void your warranty. As long as you buy it from just that one person. Sounds to me like a typical GM ploy to buy things from them.

The next lil rumor I heard, that a Solstice engine (2.0T I beleive) is the same manifold and everything, so some do it yourselfer could peice together a kit for the 2.2 Balt with little or no trouble.

I was going to sell off everything and get a bike, but I went to the liquor store the other day and the side of this place is covered in one way glass. So I was staring at my car while driving by, stopped, gunned it, then decided, "It's fast time".

Expect to see a thread soon with constant updates and pics reguarding a full out build. And damnit, I wana get on that front page. Just because it's an LS doesn't mean it can't turn into a boquet of power and fun.

But anywho. I've found two (2) seperate kits for the 2.2L. One uses the VR4 turbo, the other, a generic Garrett t-series ball bearing potato. When I was talking to an old Chevy tech who just started working at my dealership, he said he knew of some place called like PFY or somthing that sold the kits that GM endorsed.

Has anyone else heard of such things?

If this is already posted, I don't know how or where there is a search engine in here, so don't tell me to use it.

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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 10:54 AM
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gm will not warranty a car with an aftermarket turbo kit on it, they wouldnt even warranty my stock brakes lol
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 10:56 AM
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sorry dude. no gm warrantied turbo kit. someone fed you a pile of BS.
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 10:57 AM
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Yeah, no GM warranty on a turbo of any kind and there is no GM kit for the 2.2.
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 11:01 AM
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PLUS.... not only that, but the Solstice motor and the Cobalt 2.0 from what I've heard are NOT the same motors. Not saying they are 100% different, but there is supposedly enough on them that can't be used back and forth.

Just from what I've heard and seen. They had a turbo 2.0 on a stand @ Detroit Autoshow and it looks alot different than the LSJ.
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by LittleStealthSS
PLUS.... not only that, but the Solstice motor and the Cobalt 2.0 from what I've heard are NOT the same motors. Not saying they are 100% different, but there is supposedly enough on them that can't be used back and forth.

Just from what I've heard and seen. They had a turbo 2.0 on a stand @ Detroit Autoshow and it looks alot different than the LSJ.
Man! I'm gonna smack him with his big rig torque wrench. Well thats why I posted it here!

Thanks for the info.

Now who's done a T/kit for the 2.2? Anyone yet?
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 01:27 PM
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you are truly gifted for thinking gm will warrant an aftermarket turbo kit!!! come on now man...
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 01:30 PM
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they voided my drivetrain warranty due to an exhaust..... nough said
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by LittleStealthSS
PLUS.... not only that, but the Solstice motor and the Cobalt 2.0 from what I've heard are NOT the same motors. Not saying they are 100% different, but there is supposedly enough on them that can't be used back and forth.

Just from what I've heard and seen. They had a turbo 2.0 on a stand @ Detroit Autoshow and it looks alot different than the LSJ.
Additionally, I believe the Solstice turbo is on a VVT engine.... Could be wrong on that, I haven't looked into it a whole lot, but initially I remember them saying the GXP was going to have VVT.
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by intense_SS
you are truly gifted

we prefer to be called little people.

So no insight on this topic at all? Not the warranty, the actual setup. Test and tuning, realistic gains, drivability???
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 02:30 AM
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they voided my drivetrain warranty due to an exhaust..... nough said
Thats bs dude, I'd fight it
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by alleycat58
Additionally, I believe the Solstice turbo is on a VVT engine.... Could be wrong on that, I haven't looked into it a whole lot, but initially I remember them saying the GXP was going to have VVT.
yes, the LNF has VVT....its arguably GMs most advanced engine. VVT, Direct Injection, turbocharged stock...putting out a final 280hp in STOCK form.....now THATS gotta be a fun car to mod
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 06:05 AM
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss
they voided my drivetrain warranty due to an exhaust..... nough said
well if they're "attempting" to do that.. it's all sorts of illegal they can't void your warranty on your car UNLESS they can prove that a specific after market part caused it.. so saying well there is something after market on there so this this and this aren't covered is total bs... some stealerships are ******** because they don't respect people with modded cars. some dealerships dont like working on aftermarket stuff though, because they don't know what they're doing... help people have been told that a STG 2 upgrade wouldn't be covered and thats a GM part so that 100% has to be covered even if it breaks something...

definately fight it.... I highly doubt that gm will come out with a warranty safe kit...

that being said I know saturn motorsports was starting to sell a kit for the ion... then quickly was removed... but a saturn dealership with an SMS dealership inside it will warranty any of their parts you bought from them (supposedly)... aftermarket or not.... however I've not heard of GM being this nice
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 09:52 PM
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don't mean to jack this... but isn't the solstice a 2.4 vvt?? (kinda like our n/a ss models) or is it a 2.0?

i heard it was a 2.4. if that's the case, why is it so hard to get a turbo kit that is workable for our ss/na engine and they have one?
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 10:44 PM
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Solstice GXP has a 2.0L Turbo pushing 260+HP
The regular Solstice uses the 2.4L NA VVT engine
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 11:15 PM
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yeah but the 2.4 sols are boosting just fine though, its just they get more attention than us.
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 11:31 PM
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the lnf uses the lsj crank...its the same part number
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by celicacobalt
yeah but the 2.4 sols are boosting just fine though, its just they get more attention than us.
alright... noob ? right here...

ive seen that the solstice 2.4 have turbo kits out (hahn is running a stage 4 that gets over 400hp at the crank) and they were obviously able to tune the pcm... which from what i have gathered, its the biggest problem for our 2.4's.

my noobie ? is what is the big difference between our two engines that would allow the solstice to get the upper hand?? pcm's really that different between the two?
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 11:04 AM
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there is no difference really except the way the engine sits in the car. we cant just buy the kit since its made to fit in their engine bay and not ours
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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 12:47 AM
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everyone who is saying that it will void the warranty needs to review the magnusson moss act (US only).

your car will still be under warranty unless you make a modification that causes a problem (makes a lot of sense). if a dealership refuses to fix a drive train because of an aftermarket exhaust, the dealership must proove that the exhaust is what caused the issue with the drivetrain.

i havent checked in a while but last i checked, there wasnt any way to tune the engine and hp tuners didnt really care to explore putting something together for the 2.2 cobalts. fuel management was the primary issue behind not turbocharging the 2.2
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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 09:42 AM
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they cant legally void the warranty over the turbo but they will still find a way not to do any warranty work on the drivetrain or engine. but if the interoir is falling apart then yeah they will warranty it
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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by hoffa
don't mean to jack this... but isn't the solstice a 2.4 vvt?? (kinda like our n/a ss models) or is it a 2.0?

i heard it was a 2.4. if that's the case, why is it so hard to get a turbo kit that is workable for our ss/na engine and they have one?
BOTH models have VVT. Base is 2.4 VVT N/A and GXP is 2.0 VVT Turbocharged.
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