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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 08:27 PM
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Trading SS/SC in on 300C

I'm done guys!

Well I just wanted to let you guys know that I am signing the papers on a 2006 Chrysler 300C tomorrow morning. I know many of you don't know me, but I have been around for about a year and a half now.

I was probably one of the cobalts biggest fans and planned on buying an SS/SC as soon as I saw it unveiled on chevy's website. I got the EXACT 06 i wanted brand new in red with the G85 package. I loved the car, and it was a hoot to drive.

However I made the mistake of having a GM mechanic in the boonies of south GA install GM Stage 2, and eventually a GMPP header and GMPP catback.

Well the car started overboosting after the stage 2 install, and ended up being in the shop for over 2 months getting fixed. Then a few months after getting it back, i raced an acura RSX type S and a bone stock SS/SC, and both whiped the floor with me.

After having compression tests, changing cats, changing intakes, changing spark plugs, fuel filter, air filter, MAF sensor, and exhaust gaskets, the car was still a dog.

I had it dyno'd and it put down an amazing 131whp on a cool day. They even custom tuned it and still no go.

I had two seperate GM dealerships look at it, and both think that only having 131hp is NOT a warranty problem. So I'm done. I'm getting rid of it, and getting something else.

I know many of you havent had a single problem, and I know the SS/SC can be a great car, but mine was not, and i will not pay $350/month for 131hp.

I just wanted to say thanks so much for the great website, and all the extremely helpful How-To's. The community here is extremely helpful except for the occasional V8 or SRT4 troll.

I will hang around and respond to this thread if needed, but aside from that, I will be over at the 300C forums . com from now on. Thanks and goodbye!
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 08:30 PM
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Good luck man! Hopefully you'll have more than you had in the 'balt!
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 08:30 PM
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Alright. Peace out. It's too bad your Cobalt wasn't the best... Good luck & have fun w/ the 300C!
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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wow that was the saddest story i have ever read i'm sorry to hear you went through that **** man but 300c's are nice cars so good luck bro
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 08:32 PM
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I hope you got the 5.7 at least.
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 08:34 PM
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However I made the mistake of having a GM mechanic in the boonies of south GA install GM Stage 2, and eventually a GMPP header and GMPP catback.


Ok so then it wasnt the balts fault then.
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 08:34 PM
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wow that was the saddest story i have ever read i'm sorry to hear you went through that **** man but 300c's are nice cars so good luck bro
good luck,the 300s done up,look mean!
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 08:36 PM
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Good luck man. My car had some shitty issues also. Im also thinking about trading my girl in
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 09:00 PM
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Thanks for the support guys! It seems the 300C has quite a bit of fans here! Well, I will give you guys a little more info.

1) It is the 5.7 V8. (if its a C then it must have V8)

2) According to the mag times, the 300C actually has 0-60 in the mid 5s and a quarter mile of 14.1. I'm not a mag racer, but that is definately SS/SC territory if not SRT4 territory. Anywho its better than 131 hp!!!

3) The pros are RWD! Sunroof. Sound system on par with SS/SC. Rediculous luxuries like seat warmers, backup assist, and power adjustable pedals. Compared to my ss/sc with tranny mounts this car feels like a cadillac. They put new tires on them too.

4) The cons are there only made in automatic. There city gas mileage is pathetic at 17mpg (there highway is respectable at 25). And i'm only making 500 bucks off of trading my balt in.

For all of you planning on trading your cobalt in on a new Camaro, I would highly advise selling it third party or trading it in as soon as the camaro comes out. When people say Cobalt has a low resale value, they are NOT kidding. My cobalt lost approximately $10,000US dollars off its value after only 26000 miles.
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by LandonElf
Thanks for the support guys! It seems the 300C has quite a bit of fans here! Well, I will give you guys a little more info.

1) It is the 5.7 V8. (if its a C then it must have V8)

2) According to the mag times, the 300C actually has 0-60 in the mid 5s and a quarter mile of 14.1. I'm not a mag racer, but that is definately SS/SC territory if not SRT4 territory. Anywho its better than 131 hp!!!

3) The pros are RWD! Sunroof. Sound system on par with SS/SC. Rediculous luxuries like seat warmers, backup assist, and power adjustable pedals. Compared to my ss/sc with tranny mounts this car feels like a cadillac. They put new tires on them too.

4) The cons are there only made in automatic. There city gas mileage is pathetic at 17mpg (there highway is respectable at 25). And i'm only making 500 bucks off of trading my balt in.

For all of you planning on trading your cobalt in on a new Camaro, I would highly advise selling it third party or trading it in as soon as the camaro comes out. When people say Cobalt has a low resale value, they are NOT kidding. My cobalt lost approximately $10,000US dollars off its value after only 26000 miles.
this is why i decided to mod mine,i'll never get back the money due to depriciation value,the next vehicle i buy(if new) one of the most important part of the purchasing decision will be resale.
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 09:13 PM
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That overboosting problem was the reason i traded mine in for a 2005 mustang gt 5 speed last week....did they ever find out the problem?
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 09:14 PM
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Let me tell you HEMIs rock! If you have any questions, i am a chrysler tech here in WI, let me know and ill try to help you out
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 10:38 PM
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Sucks to see a SS/SC go bye bye but I am sure you will love the new car! Good luck with it and be sure to post pics of it when you get it!

Mike
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 10:41 PM
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u should had got the 300 srt-8
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 10:45 PM
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Wow, that really blows about your Cobalt. I would be trading it in too lol.

Good luck with the 300C.
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 10:47 PM
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kthxbai

Originally Posted by Jimmys2007CobaltSS/C
u should had got the 300 srt-8
they wont cut deals on them a used srt8 charger is like 35k new or used

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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 10:50 PM
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I hope all goes well with your 300C, just don't think you can lane change as if you were in the Cobalt.
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by yellowcobaltss05
That overboosting problem was the reason i traded mine in for a 2005 mustang gt 5 speed last week....did they ever find out the problem?
Well the first time is was overboosting, it was a disconnected boost actuator. (which was caused by an improper stage 2 installation btw) But several months later the problem came back and nobody has been able to solve the problem since.

Heres the last response i got from a GM tech and i quote "If the boost guage reads up to 20psi, then you should be okay hitting that"

Thats the very moment i decided on getting rid of it.

Now the car is on its 4th cat! Can you beleive that? Four catalytic converters on a vehicle with 26000 miles on it. GM tech problem solving FTW......

Heres the kicker, at 20psi the car still only put down 131whp! Isn't that unbeleivable!

And to the guy talking about the SRT8. Those things are nice but the markup and resale value is incredible. Your talking upper 40's brand new and upper 30's with high mileage.

I'm getting an 06 300C with 35K miles on it for $23000 US. Picking it up tomorrow. It feels like the fastest thing in the world compared to that lemon i was driving.
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 11:26 PM
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300Cs are pimpalicious!
Have fun in that sexy luxury sedan, I can understand you completely, but you do know that some poor sucker will probably buy you SS/SC thinking it's the ****
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by monkeiboy
300Cs are pimpalicious!
Have fun in that sexy luxury sedan, I can understand you completely, but you do know that some poor sucker will probably buy you SS/SC thinking it's the ****
Yea, the one i'm getting is "cool vanilla". I wanted black but the white one was 2K cheaper and black cars are ovens in the south GA summer.

But your exactly right. Thats why i'm not selling it myself. I would feel way to guilty taking another person's money for this car, despite it still being under warranty. Whoever buys this car is going to think all cobalts are crap.

But the funny thing is that it still feels fast, because of the throttle response. It throws you back in your seat but you just don't go anywhere.

I don't want to be held responsible when it eventually fails later down the line. I mean it can only take 20psi for so long ya know?
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by LandonElf
Thanks for the support guys! It seems the 300C has quite a bit of fans here! Well, I will give you guys a little more info.

1) It is the 5.7 V8. (if its a C then it must have V8)

2) According to the mag times, the 300C actually has 0-60 in the mid 5s and a quarter mile of 14.1. I'm not a mag racer, but that is definately SS/SC territory if not SRT4 territory. Anywho its better than 131 hp!!!

3) The pros are RWD! Sunroof. Sound system on par with SS/SC. Rediculous luxuries like seat warmers, backup assist, and power adjustable pedals. Compared to my ss/sc with tranny mounts this car feels like a cadillac. They put new tires on them too.

4) The cons are there only made in automatic. There city gas mileage is pathetic at 17mpg (there highway is respectable at 25). And i'm only making 500 bucks off of trading my balt in.

For all of you planning on trading your cobalt in on a new Camaro, I would highly advise selling it third party or trading it in as soon as the camaro comes out. When people say Cobalt has a low resale value, they are NOT kidding. My cobalt lost approximately $10,000US dollars off its value after only 26000 miles.


The 300C will get about 14 mpg in the city and about 21 mpg highway. It will not run 14.1
in stock form. More like 14.6. I have a 07 Charger R/T and my best time was 14.25 stock.
My 07 SS/SC with a few mods runs high 13's.

Good luck with the 300C.
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 11:16 PM
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You traded a Chevy for a Chrysler?
Theres a reason Diamler Benz sold that ****.









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That is all.
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Old Aug 26, 2007 | 09:31 AM
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when I put my car in R it goes backwards...what can I do?

Where can I find a blow up party passenger girl....she must be good looking

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Old Aug 26, 2007 | 09:38 AM
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you mean there was a stg2 ss/sc running around that i could beat with my 2.2??? why didnt you live closer

j/k, enjoy the new car!!
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Old Aug 26, 2007 | 10:08 AM
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Yeah because he was passing people really easily with 131whp.



I am pretty sure some of the 300c/RTs have dipped into the 13s bone stock.



It wasn't because of the 300c.

Very, very few 5.7 LX's run 13's stock.

I've also seen these cars go slower with CAI's, chips and headers.
I put a AFE II CAI on my R/T and lost 2/10 (14.4's). I put the stock airbox on
at the track on the same day and it droper back into the 14.2's.
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