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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:20 PM
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G85 vs. Non-G85

Alright guys...funny story here.

I got my Passport G-Timer in today, and right now, I have a lovely Aveo rental car....until my newly painted wheels are put back on the balt......anyway, I wanted to see the accuracy on this thing. A buddy of mine has a 05 Sentra SE-R SpecV 6 speed. All he has is cai...so we pop it in there, calibrate it and go. 1rst 0- 60mph run was 7.4, and 1/4 mile at 15.75. 2nd run= 0-60 mph 7.47 and 15.89. 3rd run was all the same. So I get back on the computer and I was disappointed thinking this thing was innacurate, but it turns out to be very very close. 2003 Sentra SER-SpecV 0-60 in 7.3 and 1/4 mile in 15.63! Now, I really can't wait to run the old SS/SC. I'm bone stock and non-G85. Now here's what it's all about. I have seen a few car sites that have done road test (edmunds especially surprising 0-60 6.98 and 1/4 in 15.46?!?!) ranging 0-60 times from 6.0-6.7 and 1/4's ranging from 14.5-14.9? So is there that much difference from the G85 or what? I don't wanna see a close to 7 second 0-60 and 15 second 1/4, or I'll be facing the music of my old 2+2 300ZX with 175,000 miles on it. Just looking for some uplift and info...help me guys!
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:22 PM
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the LSD really helps out in the corners rather then the 1/4 mile...
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:23 PM
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no its just some magazines have better drivers, conditions, and/or equipment. i have seen some mags test it to 5.9 and 14.4. if you really want to see how accurate it is go to Memphis Motorsports Park and use it on a pass.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:24 PM
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking, but didn't totally know for sue you know?! I figured the LSD was mainly to keep the SS in the corners and bang out of the apex...
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:24 PM
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the LSD really helps out in the corners rather then the 1/4 mile...
Are you high? LSD will give you .1 to .2 better 60ft's in the quarter mile.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:24 PM
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the LSD really helps out in the corners rather then the 1/4 mile...
Yea i mean becuase putting power to the ground threw both wheels doesnt help in the 1/4 mile, this topic has been killed to death search.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:25 PM
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Are you high? LSD will give you .1 to .2 better 60ft's in the quarter mile.


I dont have LSD..you are saying ill get a 1.8 60' with it?
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:25 PM
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its is going to little to no effect on a close to stock SS/SC
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 06superchargedbalt
Alright guys...funny story here.

I got my Passport G-Timer in today, and right now, I have a lovely Aveo rental car....until my newly painted wheels are put back on the balt......anyway, I wanted to see the accuracy on this thing. A buddy of mine has a 05 Sentra SE-R SpecV 6 speed. All he has is cai...so we pop it in there, calibrate it and go. 1rst 0- 60mph run was 7.4, and 1/4 mile at 15.75. 2nd run= 0-60 mph 7.47 and 15.89. 3rd run was all the same. So I get back on the computer and I was disappointed thinking this thing was innacurate, but it turns out to be very very close. 2003 Sentra SER-SpecV 0-60 in 7.3 and 1/4 mile in 15.63! Now, I really can't wait to run the old SS/SC. I'm bone stock and non-G85. Now here's what it's all about. I have seen a few car sites that have done road test (edmunds especially surprising 0-60 6.98 and 1/4 in 15.46?!?!) ranging 0-60 times from 6.0-6.7 and 1/4's ranging from 14.5-14.9? So is there that much difference from the G85 or what? I don't wanna see a close to 7 second 0-60 and 15 second 1/4, or I'll be facing the music of my old 2+2 300ZX with 175,000 miles on it. Just looking for some uplift and info...help me guys!
Yea man it will give you bit of an improvement however you will see more of an improvement while cornering.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
no its just some magazines have better drivers, conditions, and/or equipment. i have seen some mags test it to 5.9 and 14.4. if you really want to see how accurate it is go to Memphis Motorsports Park and use it on a pass.

If I wasn't so broke I would , but yeah the 5.9 sounds great. And speaking of better drivers, edmunds needs to be lookin'!

By the way Hatrickstu...the car looks so gooood in that sig...I miss mine already...still got another week....
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:27 PM
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Yea i mean becuase putting power to the ground threw both wheels doesnt help in the 1/4 mile, this topic has been killed to death search.
dear God... im not even going to get into this again

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If I wasn't so broke I would , but yeah the 5.9 sounds great. And speaking of better drivers, edmunds needs to be lookin'!

By the way Hatrickstu...the car looks so gooood in that sig...I miss mine already...still got another week....
thanks man, i miss my DR's.

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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:28 PM
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If you plan on moding, and want to put power to the ground evenly and not peg leg, the lsd will help greatly in the 1/4, trust me i had a 05 non lsd balt, and now have a 07 lsd balt its night and day differnce.

Originally Posted by hatrickstu
dear God... im not even going to get into this again



thanks man, i miss my DR's.

Go ahead? So your saying the lsd is pointless? Are you mad becuase you didnt get it

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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:29 PM
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Yea i mean becuase putting power to the ground threw both wheels doesnt help in the 1/4 mile, this topic has been killed to death search.
Well, I actually searched yahoo, google, and here...nothing sorry I know all about the search button so I think we'll both make it
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:31 PM
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If you plan on moding, and want to put power to the ground evenly and not peg leg, the lsd will help greatly in the 1/4, trust me i had a 05 non lsd balt, and now have a 07 lsd balt its night and day differnce.




Go ahead? So your saying the lsd is pointless? Are you mad becuase you didnt get it
so what kinda times you running in both stock or even modded? i completely agree that putting power to both wheels is a must, but just because you dont have LSD doesnt mean you arent. its been proven time and time again, if you would like me to show you burnout pics/videos and the tire marks afterwards id be more than happy to.

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If you plan on moding, and want to put power to the ground evenly and not peg leg, the lsd will help greatly in the 1/4, trust me i had a 05 non lsd balt, and now have a 07 lsd balt its night and day differnce.




Go ahead? So your saying the lsd is pointless? Are you mad becuase you didnt get it
i find it hilarious people think that only one wheels is being powered with no LSD

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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:32 PM
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so what kinda times you running in both stock or even modded? i completely agree that putting power to both wheels is a must, but just because you dont have LSD doesnt mean you arent. its been proven time and time again, if you would like me to show you burnout pics/videos and the tire marks afterwards id be more than happy to.



i find it hilarious people think that only one wheels is being powered with no LSD
Agreed, and it just shows that only one person on here has a TOTALLY different opinion than all the other members that have replied to this forum.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:34 PM
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so what kinda times you running in both stock or even modded? i completely agree that putting power to both wheels is a must, but just because you dont have LSD doesnt mean you arent. its been proven time and time again, if you would like me to show you burnout pics/videos and the tire marks afterwards id be more than happy to.
Yea no **** both wheels can spin on non lsd but they aint going to do that every single time, and compensate for the other loosing power, i ran my 07 once and it ran a 14.7 @ 100 stock with intake and exhaust non lsd ran about a 14.6 with intake/exhaust.

Well i mean if it makes you sleep at night to tell yourself that and feel good you dont have one no biggie.

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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:35 PM
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honestly if it does anything in the 1/4 its nothing that a little driver mod can not fix.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:36 PM
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Yea no **** both wheels can spin on non lsd but they aint going to do that every single time, and compensate for the other loosing power, i ran my 07 once and it ran a 14.7 @ 100 stock with intake and exhaust non lsd ran about a 14.6 with intake/exhaust.

Well i mean if it makes you sleep at night to tell yourself that and feel good you dont have one no biggie.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/9...8c00096162.htm

please explain.

well bro i have made my fair share of passes at the strip and have never had the one wheel wonder so maybe my car is just magical. it could just be that its too slow running 8.6's in the 1/8 (8.8's on street tires) and thats the problem.

if being misinformed is what lets you sleep at night, feel free to ignore that evidence
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:40 PM
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Well i mean if it makes you sleep at night to tell yourself that and feel good you dont have one no biggie.[/QUOTE]

Look, if you want me to get rid of this thread to due the forums filling up with BS...then fine, but it's even worse when guys like you gotta just come in and totally thrash someone...just chill out..it'll all be ok..seriously.

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honestly if it does anything in the 1/4 its nothing that a little driver mod can not fix.
Thanks man, that's really what I was lookin' for I appreciate you keepin' it simple lol!!

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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:41 PM
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Iam not trashing anything for one, and for two if you look at the beg of your vid look how much smoke is coming from your one tire and not the other, its not distributing power evenly, the lsd's main goal, i guess i better go return my cobalt and get one with no lsd since it seems pretty pointless, i have owned both, and i can tell you by expierince i would never go back, yea my non lsd would sometimes spin both but not every single pass down the track.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:44 PM
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Iam not trashing anything for one, and for two if you look at the beg of your vid look how much smoke is coming from your one tire and not the other, its not distributing power evenly, the lsd's main goal, i guess i better go return my cobalt and get one with no lsd since it seems pretty pointless, i have owned both, and i can tell you by expierince i would never go back, yea my non lsd would sometimes spin both but not every single pass down the track.
actually you only see one side of the car captain obvious. maybe only the right front is smoking in the 2nd clip because thats all you can see? what abotu the marks before the last clip, and then the entire rest of the clip? you cant say that your LSD is the only variable that allowed you to run those times, thats borderline retarded. i didnt say it was useless, its of virutally no benefit in pure straight line in anything but a heavily modded ss/sc

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Well i mean if it makes you sleep at night to tell yourself that and feel good you dont have one no biggie.
Look, if you want me to get rid of this thread to due the forums filling up with BS...then fine, but it's even worse when guys like you gotta just come in and totally thrash someone...just chill out..it'll all be ok..seriously.



Thanks man, that's really what I was lookin' for I appreciate you keepin' it simple lol!![/QUOTE]

practice makes perfect man. come down to centerville this weekend!

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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:46 PM
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Like I said bro....lol I am broke...plus my car is still waiting on it's new restored gunmetal shoes. I miss it so bad man, and watching that vid brings back memories of 4 days ago...lol
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actually you only see one side of the car captain obvious. maybe only the right front is smoking in the 2nd clip because thats all you can see? what abotu the marks before the last clip, and then the entire rest of the clip? you cant say that your LSD is the only variable that allowed you to run those times, thats borderline retarded. i didnt say it was useless, its of virutally no benefit in pure straight line in anything but a heavily modded ss/sc



Look, if you want me to get rid of this thread to due the forums filling up with BS...then fine, but it's even worse when guys like you gotta just come in and totally thrash someone...just chill out..it'll all be ok..seriously.



Thanks man, that's really what I was lookin' for I appreciate you keepin' it simple lol!!
practice makes perfect man. come down to centerville this weekend![/QUOTE]

You have to agree that does give you more consistant times, right?
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what does? practice sure as hell does
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:48 PM
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Iam talking about at the very beg, one wheel is spining more than the other am i wrong? And yes i saw your other burnoouts where you left two marks, where did i not say that wasnt possible i just freaking said i could make 2 marks sometimes in my non lsd, but not avery single pass down the track like a lsd can, **** if that was the case why the hell would they even make it, point being lsd is a good starting ground for moding a cobalt period.
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