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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:49 PM
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what does? practice sure as hell does
The LSD give you more consistant runs. I uhave an LSD and i notice some difference from my old cav without.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:52 PM
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Iam talking about at the very beg, one wheel is spining more than the other am i wrong? And yes i saw your other burnoouts where you left two marks, where did i not say that wasnt possible i just freaking said i could make 2 marks sometimes in my non lsd, but not avery single pass down the track like a lsd can, **** if that was the case why the hell would they even make it, point being lsd is a good starting ground for moding a cobalt period.
of course its a great starting point. if that video isnt proof enough than i give up

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The LSD give you more consistant runs. I uhave an LSD and i notice some difference from my old cav without.
in MY car i dont think it would make me more consistent. its been forever since ive blown the tires away at the strip though

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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
of course its a great starting point. if that video isnt proof enough than i give up
WTF are you proving that you can do a burnout and leave two marks? Congrats, i never said it couldn't be done, i could do that in my old non lsd balt? What is your point? Are you going to go down the track every single pass puting power evenly to the ground?
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
of course its a great starting point. if that video isnt proof enough than i give up



in MY car i dont think it would make me more consistent. its been forever since ive blown the tires away at the strip though
I agree with you that the difference is small, however the difference is there wether you want to accept it or not weather it be on second or one tenth. The biggest difference is on cornering, you can take corners a lot faster with a lot more control with LSD then without.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:56 PM
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WTF are you proving that you can do a burnout and leave two marks? Congrats, i never said it couldn't be done, i could do that in my old non lsd balt? What is your point? Are you going to go down the track every single pass puting power evenly to the ground?
uh if im not giving the car a reason to just spin one, then yea i sure am. im proving to you in more than one clip and setting that both tires are spinning evenly in a straight line. which is what my point was. if you would be mroe happy comparing times im down for that too

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I agree with you that the difference is small, however the difference is there weather you want to accept it or not weather it be on second or one tenth. The biggest difference is on cornering, you can take corners a lot faster with a lot more control with LSD then without.
i agree 100%

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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 02:50 PM
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the Spec-V's aren't that fast, a bone stock 2.4 should be able to eat 'em up.

I tried a 0-60 run with the dashhawk in mine, I got stupid and did an unneeded shift in 3rd gear and didn't get crazy with the launch and got a 7.6

that leaves plenty of room for improvement, I think the quoted time is 7.1 secs for the 2.4 SS/GT/Sport
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 03:05 PM
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i want to agree with short, my bro has a non-g85 and i have the Gness, i always get solid launchs, less tire spin, and just all around a bit faster
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueSS-supercharged
i want to agree with short, my bro has a non-g85 and i have the Gness, i always get solid launchs, less tire spin, and just all around a bit faster
Finally some logic.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 07:18 PM
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i want to agree with short, my bro has a non-g85 and i have the Gness, i always get solid launchs, less tire spin, and just all around a bit faster
have either of you run at a track?
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 01:24 AM
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say your ss/sc doesnt come with LSD stock.. is there an aftermarket one you can install/ get one form the dealer? i know when i get mine next spring, its going to be used and i know i wont get one with lsd just for the fact that i dont have that kind of luck.
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 01:34 AM
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have either of you run at a track?
Yes I have to agree with this the track is different. Most tracks spray stuff on the road to help you grip better, hence why you get more wheel hop and less spin. On the track it will make a minute difference, the most difference will be noticed when cornering or on slippery road conditions. How many drag racing cars do you see with LSD on them, I don’t see many and that’s because the gain is not noticeable and the money can better be spent else where.
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 01:40 AM
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i did it for the recaro's
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by lsjwannabe
i did it for the recaro's
LMAO i did it to take the corners faster :P. I do notice a lot more control over my car with it.
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 01:43 AM
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who cares about corners when i got those sweet seats to look at lol
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by lsjwannabe
who cares about corners when i got those sweet seats to look at lol
lol i do when the suggested speed limit is 40 and I’m doing 90 and not even squawking my tires :P.
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 01:50 AM
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I cut 2.1 60fts on stock half worn pirellis every week.

no LSD.

I still believe the LSD does nothing for you at a drag strip.

and have yet to see any proof contrary.
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 01:52 AM
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I cut 2.1 60fts on stock half worn pirellis every week.

no LSD.

I still believe the LSD does nothing for you at a drag strip.

and have yet to see any proof contrary.
Yes for the most part I agree and you will see that in my posts.
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 02:05 AM
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thats not to say i dont think its a great part.
when you turn those wheels, im sure its badass, compared to the single tirefire you get without it.

but for me, i just wouldnt get the use out of it to justify the cost
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by an0malous
thats not to say i dont think its a great part.
when you turn those wheels, im sure its badass, compared to the single tirefire you get without it.

but for me, i just wouldnt get the use out of it to justify the cost
lol i got mine for free :P.
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 02:39 AM
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i didn't do it for the seats since i replaced the trans w/ g85 after i got the car, but its definitely all about burning both tires out around a turn than just the one.
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 03:19 AM
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how much did it run you to get lsd installed?? i agree that it does nothing for you in a stright line but every time i come out of a turn hard the one legged spin starts!!! Its so anoying!!!!
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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The main advantage of a limited slip differential is found by considering the case of a standard (or "open") differential where one wheel has no contact with the ground at all. In such a case, the contacting wheel will remain stationary, and the non-contacting wheel will rotate freely– the torque transmitted will be equal at both wheels, but will not exceed the threshold of torque needed to move the vehicle, thus the vehicle will remain stationary. In everyday use on typical roads, such a situation is very unlikely, and so a normal differential suffices. For more demanding use however, such as driving off-road, or for high performance vehicles, such a state of affairs is undesirable, and the LSD can be employed to deal with it. By limiting the velocity difference between a pair of driven wheels, useful torque can be transmitted as long as there is some friction available on at least one of the wheels.


I dont understand how you guys can say it does nothing for straight line performance, i have owned both, and i can say from 60ft times it makes a differnece even minimal i really could care less its helping not hurting the car.
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 03:35 PM
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because it doesnt.


theres only 1 situation where it would help.
and thats if you spun a SHITLOAD off the line, to the point where 1 wheel was getting more spin, then it would allow the other to pick up the slack.

but basically if your launching like that, your gonna get a 2.6 60ft anyway.

in a properly launched cobalt SS, the LSD isnt gonna do jack squat on the 1/4 mile.

its a godly part when it comes to power in the corners. but thats all its doing.
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by an0malous
because it doesnt.


theres only 1 situation where it would help.
and thats if you spun a SHITLOAD off the line, to the point where 1 wheel was getting more spin, then it would allow the other to pick up the slack.

but basically if your launching like that, your gonna get a 2.6 60ft anyway.

in a properly launched cobalt SS, the LSD isnt gonna do jack squat on the 1/4 mile.

its a godly part when it comes to power in the corners. but thats all its doing.
I agree, a good driver doesn’t need the limited slip on straight line because he’s not going to have any wheels springing, further more as I stated before most tracks are sprayed so they have more traction making it even less effective, now if you drag racing your friend on the street o the track is not sprayed then it may have more of effect. A good driver would not need LSD if he knows his car just as a good driver doesn’t need ABS. The biggest benefit to LSD as you stated is in extreme cases IE off road or some punk popping the clutch at 5k. For you it may have a lot of benefit because you’re probably not driving the car properly. I have it mainly because it will give me more traction on cornering as well as in winter.
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 05:23 PM
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guys?


where's the love?
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