http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urwJVnWHjiI

and it has the wheels from the other pic.

dont get to excited ;)

Nice! I like the look of those wheels.

The no lift shift seems pretty sweet too!

the "no lift shift" is also known as power shifting...the srt4 mopar s2 has that system..u shift WOT and u wont loose boost at all..but like everything else it has a weekness...ur clutch will go out faster than usual

also wat kind of cheap tires are those..they seem to be sqeeling every turn...

also how long is that straight away at the end?1 mile maybe more and he only reached 120mph..and entered that turn at wat 50mph or so

good find..my mouth was open the whole time well watching that..i think i go a bit of drool on my shirt...unreal..unreal

gotta check this out when i get off work

gotta check this out when i get off work

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the "no lift shift" is also known as power shifting...the srt4 mopar s2 has that system..u shift WOT and u wont loose boost at all..but like everything else it has a weekness...ur clutch will go out faster than usual

also wat kind of cheap tires are those..they seem to be sqeeling every turn...

that's what happens when you push a car to it's limits and take turns at triple digit speeds :lol:

the "no lift shift" is also known as power shifting...the srt4 mopar s2 has that system..u shift WOT and u wont loose boost at all..but like everything else it has a weekness...ur clutch will go out faster than usual

also wat kind of cheap tires are those..they seem to be sqeeling every turn...

also how long is that straight away at the end?1 mile maybe more and he only reached 120mph..and entered that turn at wat 50mph or so

Didnt you hear how fast he said he was going through some of those turns?

that's what happens when you push a car to it's limits and take turns at triple digit speeds :lol:

sure...car would flip over at triple digit speeds since the ass is so far up in the air,lol...

was it just me or was it missing tht BOV sound??

Didnt you hear how fast he said he was going through some of those turns?

those turns are like 45 Degree turns or something smaller,they arent anything more than than,plus if u cut the them,u can get more speed into them and leave the turn with more speed

was it just me or was it missing tht BOV sound??

many stock bov's are not that loud.

but did you notice the new butons where the old heated seats buttons go? trac control ?

speachless

many stock bov's are not that loud.

thanks that helps me understand it a little more..i just always assumed all turbos sound like 90-93 talons :D :D

thanks that helps me understand it a little more..i just always assumed all turbos sound like 90-93 talons :D :D

no problem! it's the aftermarket bov's that are loud.

damn im gonna want one i think..........i owe like 18,000 still on my 06 SS/SC wonder how high my payments will be lol

oh shnap.

is there any cobalt owner on this website that lives in germany?

was it just me or was it missing tht BOV sound??

Your not going to hear it.

subscribed for later ... all this news is getting me all excited. I love my ss/sc but if the price was right I think I would trade.

was it just me or was it missing tht BOV sound??

The LNF valve is integrated in to the turbo housing and vents the air back in to the intake system. When you're driving an LNF car you can hear it from inside the car slightly and from outside too. Since it recirculates the air back in to the intake system and doesn't vent to the atmosphere like most after market BOVs the sound is greatly decreased and you get a slight intake flow boost instead of wasting the air.

damnit...i wish i wasnt at work so i could watch this...*must watch later*

AN actual good lnf find! I wish that guy would stfu though, he ruined the vid.

"And if you look to your left here you'll see a french lady fucking a horn..oh wait i'm going 150mph, lets shift into 5th"
lol.

Awesome vid, too bad the quality wasn't better.

Exactly what I want, Red LNF balt w/lsd and Brembos. Can't f'ing wait!

turboeco? lol...that's...weird..

The LNF valve is integrated in to the turbo housing and vents the air back in to the intake system. When you're driving an LNF car you can hear it from inside the car slightly and from outside too. Since it recirculates the air back in to the intake system and doesn't vent to the atmosphere like most after market BOVs the sound is greatly decreased and you get a slight intake flow boost instead of wasting the air.

so the bov will most likeyly be like the SRTs, where if you want to put an aftermarket one one your gona have to block off the original mounting place and re mount it else wher, right? or am i dreaming

"And if you look to your left here you'll see a french lady fucking a horn..oh wait i'm going 150mph, lets shift into 5th"
lol.

.........

Damn good find. Just wished it showed a whole view of the car and a walkaround. I'm preety sure well be seeing a lot more really soon.

sorry if im leading the topic off..but im curious on how a BOV will work in the LNF cobalt..will you be able to get that nice PSST sound without harming your horsepower? and harming your wallet lol

so the bov will most likeyly be like the SRTs, where if you want to put an aftermarket one one your gona have to block off the original mounting place and re mount it else wher, right? or am i dreaming

What we've been doing with the Solstice GXP is pretty much what the SRT-4 crowd have been doing which is what you stated. They've been putting a flange on the post intercooler side so people can add an after market BOV. Some run it in conjunction with the stock one and others block off the stock one.

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/exhaustdepot_1965_4575469

sorry if im leading the topic off..but im curious on how a BOV will work in the LNF cobalt..will you be able to get that nice PSST sound without harming your horsepower? and harming your wallet lol

You'll have to get replacement intercooler piping with a flange on it and then buy an after market BOV. The piping should increase performance as we've seen it do on the Solstice but the BOV is pretty much just for show.

Could Someone Post This Video On Antoer Site Besides Youtube. Im At Work And I Want To See This

Wish the quality was better. Man, I cant decide if I want to quit putting anything on my current SS/SC now, or wait. I also wonder if the LSJ aftermarket is going to fall on its face after the turbocharged version is released...

Great find......apparently the torque shines through.....I wonder if the tires are still Pirellis?

lol of course it is as much as i love supercharged just think about it how much does it take to get the LSJ to 300HP and how much u think its gonna take to get the LNF to 300 lol

that is fucking sweet dude hit like 140mph on that straight away good find!

that is fucking sweet dude hit like 140mph on that straight away good find!


Had my black ss/sc at 144 mph.

or does anyone know what to type in in the youtube seach bar i can watch it like that

lol of course it is as much as i love supercharged just think about it how much does it take to get the LSJ to 300HP and how much u think its gonna take to get the LNF to 300 lol

Literally just a tune. BSR tuned LNF Solstices are pushing 305HP and 330 ft-lbs with everything else stock.

haha thats sickk mann.. just a tunee how much is a BSR tune?? and located

that is fucking sweet dude hit like 140mph on that straight away good find!

About halfway through the straight he hit 140. ;) Right before the straight, he said the cobalt will hit about 180 through there. I am sure he hit at least 160.

And the reason you don't hear the BOV in the cobalt, is because there is no BOV. It is a bypass valve that instead of venting excess pressure to the atmosphere it vents back into the intake piping. With high flow intake piping, the sound will be a little louder whoosh.

And like brentil said, the BOV is just for show.

haha thats sickk mann.. just a tunee how much is a BSR tune?? and located

Hahn sells it for the Solstice/Sky as a US reseller. It's $900 though, it's a tune and the PPC tuner which lets you tune the car and remove it at will and gets you free updates as they come out. Kinda pricey but it's also the only fully featured LNF tune right now since HPTuners isn't done cracking the Bosch controller yet.

^Once you hook the tuner up to a GXP or Redline it's mated to that car forever. That means you can't use it to tune any other car besides the original.

i bet HALF the people on here wont get the turboBalt now becuase u cant put a blow off valve on it lol

i bet HALF the people on here wont get the turboBalt now becuase u cant put a blow off valve on it lol

lol u can, just costs a little more money apperently so ive heard...

I personally could care less about a BOV, sleeper car FTW!

Thats a good ass find! That balt is going to pwn. I hope ALL the tranny's come with LSD's and I hope this car lives up to the hype. I didn't like the wheels too mcuh, but evidently the interior is supposed to rock hard!

I dunno, I kinda miss the SC whine throughout the turns. I dunno, I personally like the SC whine better than the turbo spool/whistle:lol: I wish the turbo would have been louder too. No BOV FTW!!! I like the sleeper sound.

Good find, I hope the aftermarket grows for the LNF now, and happy modding to those getting an LNF. It will be nice to have LSJ's and LNF's running the streets. Just hope a mess load of jerks don't come in.

"And if you look to your left here you'll see a french lady fucking a horn..oh wait i'm going 150mph, lets shift into 5th"
lol.

I think almost everyone's 4th gear will top out around 150-152 on the SS/SC. No big deal. Mine topped at 152mph. Then 5th gear was horribly slow (acceleration wise)

This LNF is going to be fun! Taking the Cat-cluster off the downpipe, Intake, and a Tune (HPTuners about 3 months away from BOOSTMODs on the LNF), and then you can get over 300bhp out of this car with the shake of a stick. I think you are looking at a lot of potential, and a fun car nonetheless. I kinda looked at it like, "What? It's the same on the outside.....no body styling? Competition Mode WTF......nevermind. Checks Bluebook.com"

Literally just a tune. BSR tuned LNF Solstices are pushing 305HP and 330 ft-lbs with everything else stock.

Yeah 'cept BSR is about $900-1300, and you have to ship it from Switzerland ir whereever. Wait until HPTuners releases the LNF and Automatic tuning capabilties. I will be at the Las Vegas Annual Solstice/Sky meet in the spring. And I'll probably be bringing a rake with me to collect all the money.

Had my black ss/sc at 144 mph.

About halfway through the straight he hit 140. ;) Right before the straight, he said the cobalt will hit about 180 through there. I am sure he hit at least 160.

And the reason you don't hear the BOV in the cobalt, is because there is no BOV. It is a bypass valve that instead of venting excess pressure to the atmosphere it vents back into the intake piping. With high flow intake piping, the sound will be a little louder whoosh.

And like brentil said, the BOV is just for show.


i was just saying he mentioned he was at 140mph and wasnt done yet after that all you hear is wind lol :twothumbs

the "no lift shift" is also known as power shifting...the srt4 mopar s2 has that system..u shift WOT and u wont loose boost at all..but like everything else it has a weekness...ur clutch will go out faster than usual

also wat kind of cheap tires are those..they seem to be sqeeling every turn...

also how long is that straight away at the end?1 mile maybe more and he only reached 120mph..and entered that turn at wat 50mph or so


Maybe want to watch that again dude. He said" 140 mph" and in the rain aswell.

Maybe want to watch that again dude. He said" 140 mph" and in the rain aswell.


Joo in NJ? My brother lives in Collingswood.

Great find......apparently the torque shines through.....I wonder if the tires are still Pirellis?

Rosso's are gone . The new one has Michellin's .

Rosso's are gone . The new one has Michellin's .

No shit!??!!! What michelins? Pilot Sport PS2's, Pilot Exalto PE2? I am even more interested since they have actual sticky tires now. :twothumbs

subscribing ill have to check it out.

the "no lift shift" is also known as power shifting...the srt4 mopar s2 has that system..u shift WOT and u wont loose boost at all..but like everything else it has a weekness...ur clutch will go out faster than usual

also wat kind of cheap tires are those..they seem to be sqeeling every turn...

also how long is that straight away at the end?1 mile maybe more and he only reached 120mph..and entered that turn at wat 50mph or so

he said 140..

That was awesome! Put me on the list for one, I start my new job next month and I will own one!!!

the "no lift shift" is also known as power shifting...the srt4 mopar s2 has that system..u shift WOT and u wont loose boost at all..but like everything else it has a weekness...ur clutch will go out faster than usual

also wat kind of cheap tires are those..they seem to be sqeeling every turn...

also how long is that straight away at the end?1 mile maybe more and he only reached 120mph..and entered that turn at wat 50mph or so

Did you notice the track was wet?

kinda hard not to notice especially every minute the guy says he sees rain or drizzle.

If I have enough pateince to wait for them to come out then its all mine!!!!!!!!

that's defiantly sweet... im not a fan of the rims from what ive seen, but those look good spinning

is it just in manual?

Did you notice the track was wet?

it got wet at the middle part of it,not from the beginning,and he said he can reach speeds up to 140mph,not he reached 140+

those turns are like 45 Degree turns or something smaller,they arent anything more than than,plus if u cut the them,u can get more speed into them and leave the turn with more speed

--- but did you leave the turn in the right place to set up for the next one? Too much speed into a turn = slow times on a road course. With few exceptions, that guy was braking at the right time and hit the right line on just about every turn. You don't drive the Nurb-ring in 9 mins (in a Cobalt nonetheless) without knowing what you're doing. Dryer conditions and that run would have been well into the 8's -- impressive.

BTW -- If you're truly pushing a car on the track, the tires will squeal no matter what kind of tire it is. That was perfectly normal for a high performance tire with someone who knows how to drive.

it got wet at the middle part of it,not from the beginning,and he said he can reach speeds up to 140mph,not he reached 140+

Approaching the straight he says you can hit 142 here. At 8:46 into it he says, "That's a hunred and forty miles an hour." Care to retract?

--- but did you leave the turn in the right place to set up for the next one? Too much speed into a turn = slow times on a road course. With few exceptions, that guy was braking at the right time and hit the right line on just about every turn. You don't drive the Nurb-ring in 9 mins (in a Cobalt nonetheless) without knowing what you're doing. Dryer conditions and that run would have been well into the 8's -- impressive.

BTW -- If you're truly pushing a car on the track, the tires will squeal no matter what kind of tire it is. That was perfectly normal for a high performance tire with someone who knows how to drive.



Approaching the straight he says you can hit 142 here. At 8:46 into it he says, "That's a hunred and forty miles an hour." Care to retract?

in how long...2 miles on strech..cuz i knw that isnt a small strech,bet a properly balanced
s2 cobalt can reach that..but who cares...its still a cobalt and if i like it,i get it,if not oh well

is it just in manual?

I hope so

ill watch when i get off work. time to go home now

looks good to me, by no means will i trade my ss s/c for one but i sure as hell would push a friend tp buy it

The guys in the Lancers have recirculating BOV's like the new Tc apparently will because of MAF issues. A guy I was talking to said the car would literally shut off with a atmosphere ventilated BOV.

finally got to see the video VERY impressive

Wow. Some people amaze me.

1.) Those are great tires. If you're pushing your car the tires should be making noise.

2.) I really don't think we need to critique Johnny Heinricy driving. It's safe to say he knows what he is doing.

http://theracesite.com/index.cfm?template=magazine&mag_id=10893

3.) Some people like the blow-off valve sound. Im not a huge fan. But when buying a preformance car I would hope that wouldnt be a deal breaker.

cant wait to read the war stories about LNF vs LSJ

I know right. It's going to be like Lt1 vs LS1 all over again. Gah.

GREAT FIND! I bet the T/C Cobalt with say intake, exhaust, tune could probably drop that Nurburgring time even more. I'm really glad to see that the car handles well and isn't just a straight line racer. I'd love to see Jeremy Clarkson from Top Gear review the car. He'd tear it apart but it'd be fun.

ok want to see something amazing guys! the LNF cobalt did the nurburgring in 8:22.85... check this link out http://wheeltalk.fancal.net/?p=476 and tell me this thing isnt fast? this isnt up to date yet...but you can see where it belongs...also it beat the FWD sport compact record by 13 SECONDS (<---i would provide the link that says this but i cant find it again sorry guys :()!! honestly i am keeping my SS/SC but DAMN man faster than a BMW M3 and faster than an WRX STI..impressive.....impressive:cssNET:

no whine...that car must be slow...

haha.

sweeeet

I hope so

Betcha they give it that damn automatic transmission again....chevy did it with the HHR SS, and I don't doubt they wouldn't do it tot he cobalt, it will put daily drivers in them. :(:thumbsdow

cant wait to read the war stories about LNF vs LSJ

I can't, this whole rivalry will be stupid....

ok want to see something amazing guys! the LNF cobalt did the nurburgring in 8:22.85... check this link out http://wheeltalk.fancal.net/?p=476 and tell me this thing isnt fast? this isnt up to date yet...but you can see where it belongs...also it beat the FWD sport compact record by 13 SECONDS (<---i would provide the link that says this but i cant find it again sorry guys :()!! honestly i am keeping my SS/SC but DAMN man faster than a BMW M3 and faster than an WRX STI..impressive.....impressive:cssNET:

Thats great! I'm glad its by a chevy cobalt! I really am. Turbo or not.

hey the cobalt ss/sc also was developed and tested on the same track why the hell was there no video of it I am sure it exists.

I bet a Stage 2 cobalt with a full exhaust could easily keep up with that car. But the SS/TC will have a huge advantage with those breaks.

An lsj with 60s and tune would walk on it any day.

I bet a Stage 2 cobalt with a full exhaust could easily keep up with that car. But the SS/TC will have a huge advantage with those breaks.

An lsj with 60s and tune would walk on it any day.

Same could be said vice versa with a Tuned T/C with Downpipe, Intake, etc. You can't compare the modded to stock. This T/C will beat up the S/C all day. It makes 30% more torque and hp stock, and they didn't add displacement AND they lowered compression.

nice .....nice .......nice

what happened to that 8:22 ring time?

what happened to that 8:22 ring time?

I'm guessing was done on a dry day; better conditions. Nothing I saw in the video makes me doubt the claim.

Same could be said vice versa with a Tuned T/C with Downpipe, Intake, etc. You can't compare the modded to stock. This T/C will beat up the S/C all day. It makes 30% more torque and hp stock, and they didn't add displacement AND they lowered compression.

I know. I was just trying to help people understand that most stage 2 SS/SC are right on par with the new SS/TC. So when it comes to the release of this car it wouldn't be a smart idea to buy a new 2008.5 SS/TC for 23k when you could get a used 2007 SS/SC for 17k and put 2k worth of parts on it and end up with the same car.

Because lets face it. For most people a stage 2 Cobalt or Stock LNF Cobalt is plenty!

I know. I was just trying to help people understand that most stage 2 SS/SC are right on par with the new SS/TC. So when it comes to the release of this car it wouldn't be a smart idea to buy a new 2008.5 SS/TC for 23k when you could get a used 2007 SS/SC for 17k and put 2k worth of parts on it and end up with the same car.

Because lets face it. For most people a stage 2 Cobalt or Stock LNF Cobalt is plenty!

Cant compare new cars to use cars like that.

I know. I was just trying to help people understand that most stage 2 SS/SC are right on par with the new SS/TC. So when it comes to the release of this car it wouldn't be a smart idea to buy a new 2008.5 SS/TC for 23k when you could get a used 2007 SS/SC for 17k and put 2k worth of parts on it and end up with the same car.

Because lets face it. For most people a stage 2 Cobalt or Stock LNF Cobalt is plenty!

Not anybody I know. Stage 2 cobalt is not even fast enough to have fun with yet. Gotta really push them to get the thrill out of them. The LNF will be a totally different animal.

Funny how people are acting like all GM did was change the motor....

Cant compare new cars to use cars like that.

I was comparing cost. You CAN do that.

Funny how people are acting like all GM did was change the motor....

I know, totally!! The 05-07 SS/sc can only do .85 lateral G's and the 08.5 ss/tc can do .9 lateral G's. Braking on the 08.5 will be significantly shorter distances, and slalom will be much better as well. I am sure the SS/SC would run HellGreen in about 8:40-8:50 on a good run in dry weather comparing the performance upgrades, but for some reason, I can't find a single vid.

GM tested the SS/SC quarter mile at 14.9 and can run 14.4. Figuring this, the SS/TC was tested to run 14.1, so I am sure 13.7 is achievable. Also remember that the SS/TC runs 0-60 about 0.6 sec faster than the SS/SC. Just FYI. :D

Comparing the SS/TC to the RX8 and 350Z, since it was faster than both on Nurburgring, I would estimate the SS/TC would do 60-0 in about 114', and slalom at about 69mph. We will have to wait for a magazine to test these stats, but I am very confident that these will be accurate.

You can quote me on that, and bring it up when we do get results.

I have one question. Probably been answered already. Is this rated at 260 hp to the wheels? or is this 260 crank, and around 230whp?

they are pretty nice but i don't think that i want one. maybe the wheels. but i love my sc. and i am pretty sure that when most car companies put out numbers that is to the crank. so its probably more like 220 to the wheels or less

wait till i get off work

they are pretty nice but i don't think that i want one. maybe the wheels. but i love my sc. and i am pretty sure that when most car companies put out numbers that is to the crank. so its probably more like 220 to the wheels or less

why gm quote de ss/sc at 205 and its WHP and underated, why they would change with the tc'ed ? i dont thing so, from the video and stats and more sneacking proff that are coming out lately, that thing will be much more fast than the sc'ed. IMO. i just can/t wait to try one.

check it out the cobalt is listed ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordschleife_fastest_lap_times

I know. I was just trying to help people understand that most stage 2 SS/SC are right on par with the new SS/TC. So when it comes to the release of this car it wouldn't be a smart idea to buy a new 2008.5 SS/TC for 23k when you could get a used 2007 SS/SC for 17k and put 2k worth of parts on it and end up with the same car.

Because lets face it. For most people a stage 2 Cobalt or Stock LNF Cobalt is plenty!

I was comparing cost. You CAN do that.

Why buy a Used SS/SC when you can buy a used 2.4 for about 14K and put 2k worth of parts on it and end up with the same car.


Nope. Doesnt sound right when I say it either.

Well we should compare this to the astra vxr on the same circuit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwBJ8SHB42U
If 8.22 is true then the cobalt is 10sec faster than astra!!

The LSJ was under rated by about 20%. The LNF is pretty spot on with its rating. Also if you put the stock tires from the TC Balt on the SC Balt then breaking, lateral G's, and slalom would all go up. The stock tires on the SC Balt are the *WORST* high performance summer tired rated by Consumer Reports and really holds the car back. Number 21 out of 21.

The LSJ was under rated by about 20%. The LNF is pretty spot on with its rating. Also if you put the stock tires from the TC Balt on the SC Balt then breaking, lateral G's, and slalom would all go up. The stock tires on the SC Balt are the *WORST* high performance summer tired rated by Consumer Reports and really holds the car back. Number 21 out of 21.

i have to agree the rossos were oh so bad

Why buy a Used SS/SC when you can buy a used 2.4 for about 14K and put 2k worth of parts on it and end up with the same car.


Nope. Doesnt sound right when I say it either.

Point taken but its a little different. Do you have rear disk breaks? Do you have an LSD transmission? Do you have a sport tuned suspension? And what are you using as for your F/I system? If you can do all that for 2k that would be sweet!

SS/TC handles like a beast at triple digits:twothumbs

I have one question. Probably been answered already. Is this rated at 260 hp to the wheels? or is this 260 crank, and around 230whp?

262SAE flywheel.

sure...car would flip over at triple digit speeds since the ass is so far up in the air,lol...
Mine does not flip at a triple digits. I have proven that at the local track and have done that more than once.

Had my black ss/sc at 144 mph.
This was Nurburgring. were you there? then STFU....LOL joke. really this car will do in excess of 160 quoted to do 165.

Literally just a tune. BSR tuned LNF Solstices are pushing 305HP and 330 ft-lbs with everything else stock.
those are awsome numbers. close to CHarger R/T and 1000lbs less. gonna rip those cars in to. My car keeps up to them with GMS2 (as does others, I am not special)

262SAE flywheel.

but 205 was what stock ss/sc was rated at then it does 220whp? 260 or not you cant deny the torque! it will kill GMS2. torque of 260 at 2000 and on up.

GMS2 for this car will make it walk alot of cars! I cant wait.

BOTTOM LINE. unless your turboed the SS/SC your going to eat dust from one of these cars modded and possibly keep up to a stock one if your modded to the max.

GSM2 SS/SC should be right about the same as a SS/TC. That is based on paper numbers of course. No one will know until we get one of these babies on the road.

I don't post much here, but I wondered when GM would go turbo on the Cobalt. I know you supercharger guys like your cars, but a turbo has much more power potential. I am glad that GM has really redone their performance image. They should be a leader and not a follower. This car is a winner. I can only dream though. I can't drive a manual due to medical problems. I don't think an automatic will be available. :p: