bootymac

do you guys think that the new mazdaspeed3 is going to outdue the cobalt ss, im kinda wondering how it'll do, has anyone heard anything???

silentd

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doubt it

deuce

currently no data of releasing 2010 MS3 into US...

bootymac

lol they'll release it, its not like no one likes the ms3 here.

Perfect.disguise

From what I've heard it's just as fast stock for stock already (though the handling isn't on par) so I would think so.I've seen a vid on the current on running a 13.7 stock and I'm sure there are better times.

bri2203

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Don't you you wish you had a time machine.

In my opnion.... they won't make the car worse, so it can only get better. Like every record....everything gets better/faster as time goes on. I wouldn't be surprised if it is better than the Cobalt SS/TC.

cereal83

I heard it's AWD and going to have over 300 HP and yeah, there with be a 2010 Speed3

Racerdad

I heard it will come in AWD, too, but no one knows for sure. The rally car guys are a little nervous, I think.

Frank B

Oh yeah... The last gen MS3 was such a good car. The car needs to be at least as fast as the outgoing one, as nimble, it cannot afford to be all over the road at wot. People expect a very, very good car.

IMO 260 + hp is starting to be a lot of HP for a fwd production car. They have to make this daily drivers not drag racers. So I don't believe it'll be that much faster if it's fwd.

If they make this AWD and make it as nimble, they've got a winner.
But I doubt it's going to be in the same price range anymore.

firebalt

theyre speculating that the new speed3s gonna have over 300tq, but that 's no problem for the ss/tc with the lnf stage kit coming out in january.

leahciM

awd makes price go high.... same reason the cobalt will not/(and never did) have awd..

so IF ms3 comes with awd it's no longer in the same range as our trusty cobalt

Scythe_Snake

I hope this is true. I like cobalt's being on top. But I think they are going stock for stock, and the factory back mods are popular....and mazdaspeed most likely won't take it laying down. They'll probably be direct competitors.

I dunno man. The Vibe/Matrix have AWD options and are in the Cobalt Sport range. AWD isn't as expensive as it used to be. The WRX competes with the balts, and it is AWD.


Its crazy, cars get faster and faster over time......pretty soon 400whp stock will be the norm.

umrdyldo

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well it's crazy to think we get 300HP and high gas mileage. It's a beautiful thing.

GOONIE

nro i ripped a 08 speed3 in EVERY GEAR even when i gave the dude a half car still pulled on him n beat him by about a car n a half

Nismothecat

lets put it this way. the MS3 was top dog till the SS/TC came out. (im sure Chevy used the MS3 as a benchmark) now what do you think Mazda is goin to do?? in Austraila they have an MS3 extreme that has 280 hp and 300ft/lbs so the new car im sure will have at least that much power. ive heard rumors it may also be a 5 cyl turbo.


http://www.autoblog.com/tag/2010+mazdaspeed3/

Perfect.disguise

Haha, add on the page.

07 Mazdaspeed 3 + K&N = 25.6 HP

DGAF260

well from what i heard FWD 280 hp 300tq revised engine band sapoably this one wont die after 5500 that last gen was like hitting a rev limiter one of the reasons i didnt buy it, handling wise i do not know to much and they said that there probly sticking with the 2.3 and not going with the 2.5 5 cylinder IDK why i think they should but nothing is final yet all just concepts and testing for now.

BowTieTillIdie

Thats why the new STI is slower then the last gen .. LOL ...

Projekt

im drunk...but if they make it AWD then it wont be in the same class as the SS/TC


gg ss/tc

berto

Power Maybe But In Performance Like Track Time I Think The Cobalt Ss/tc Will Over Come...but The Ss/tc Isn't Going Anywhere Anytime Soon So It Too Will Be Better

tdipowered

look just think if the cobalt was AWD....i used to have a subaru and i know i will buy another after this car but if they made a cobalt awd idk what i would pick then

ISuckBad45

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it would be crazy. it would be a 2door evo.... but would look better. hell since we are going AWD throw some HID's in there with it from factory..... i just made myself happy

09silverSSS

The 2010 Hyundai Genesis coupe looks like it will give the Cobalt SS/TC a good run.
They are offering a turbo 4cyl or a v6 engine options.

Nismothecat

Genesis coupe is sexy

ISuckBad45

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OMG i would drive that! my wife sells hyundais!