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Any tune vs stg kit w/tune numbers yet?

Old Nov 23, 2009 | 11:07 PM
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Question Any tune vs stg kit w/tune numbers yet?

Just curious if people that have the gm stage kit are getting tuned on top of the kit and what kind of numbers they are getting? Are they better than just a (ie) Trifecta tune alone?

In other words, anyone get tuned on top of the gm kit with the new sensors, and if you did what kind of numbers are you getting?
Do you think it is better than just a reflash on top of the original sensors and ecu, why?
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 11:20 PM
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If I remember right last time I read its a 25-30 increase having the gm sensors (that was with a trifecta tune over gm). The increase is really suppose to be noticeable with higher boost levels and bigger turbo's. This is all from memory from reading here, but to be honest I'm to lazy to search and find the posts.
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 11:59 PM
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im wondering the same thing.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 12:39 PM
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As soon as someone is willing to give up their GMS1 cal, we will find out. I heard someone was willing to sell it. I would put a couple bucks on it
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 08:23 PM
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So somebody has to by the kit than give it to someone that can tune? I would think that companies could fork out the money for the kit to get their own Calibrations? OR maybe I am not understanding what you are saying? Can HpTuner already tune the ecu for the new sensors?
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 08:27 PM
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mmmm...new maps and mafs. I may want this for later.
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 02:49 PM
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 03:15 PM
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When I dyno in the spring I'll have the numbers from stage kit vs stage kit plus tune. Can't do it now cus m clutch is slipping and it won't be accurate
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 03:24 PM
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Tag for later.
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 04:37 PM
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We will find out very shortly what happens Like this weekend lol

Edit: Wont have dyno numbers this weekend tho.
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 04:38 PM
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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Ahahahahahaaaa.... cant wait for my sensors. The evil plan brewing in my head is ******* genius! BYT, I gotta get you in on all this too.
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 09:26 PM
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so can you get the map sensors from the stage kit and not get the GM tune? I really just want the sensors
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by slowbalt84
so can you get the map sensors from the stage kit and not get the GM tune? I really just want the sensors

The part numbers for the sensors are kicking around here somewhere. there not too expensive. im unsure weather or not vince has the stage 1 tune on file that he can make your base tune or if you need to get it from GM. Im also unsure weather there tune works with the new sensors OS. im sure someone here knows that answer.
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 12:00 AM
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The part numbers for the sensors are kicking around here somewhere. there not too expensive. im unsure weather or not vince has the stage 1 tune on file that he can make your base tune or if you need to get it from GM. Im also unsure weather there tune works with the new sensors OS. im sure someone here knows that answer.

He has the stage one tune on file and tuned for the standard sensors.
"We now have access to the LNF stage tunes from GM, but we've modified them to work with the stock MAP and boost pressure sensors! Combined with our "hide-a-tune" feature we can offer all the goodies from the stage tune without requiring the stage sensors and the tune will appear to be stock! If you're ordering an LNF tune from us, be sure to ask about using the stage tune as a base for your custom tune! "
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 12:21 AM
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but don't you need the 3.0 map sensor for over 22psi? I know you can spike above 22psi. But like if you want to hold 26psi with no taper don't you need the new sensor?
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 12:23 AM
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No, because Trifecta tunes different tables than HPT has access to yet.
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