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Old 10-30-2007, 11:42 PM
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automatic Trans LNF SS

Anyone see this happening? (Perhaps only for the 4 door TC/SS)

I think it will because the HHR has it.

I can't see GM certifying LNF/4 speed auto just for the HHR-SS. Spreading out that cost would be a good move. I just wish we had the 6 speed auto with paddle shifters.
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mmmmmm no, learn to drive a stick
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Currently on the GM Powertrain no automatic Trans is listed for the LNF Cobalt.

We have not seen a peep about the 4-door LNF yet other then it will come after the coupe, so I guess we will just have to wait and see.

Originally Posted by bluebaltjim
mmmmmm no, learn to drive a stick
Look at his signature, he HAD a 5-speed...

Personally the only way i would bother to get a ss/tc would be for a 4-door automatic... If i wanted an F/I 5-speed Cobalt i would just save my money and TC my 2.4 that i have now.

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I'm sure it will be released in 4 door automatic just like the HHR SS. Having the car in automatic, like it or not, opens it up to a whole other market of potential sales.
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Originally Posted by tonio5555
I'm sure it will be released in 4 door automatic just like the HHR SS. Having the car in automatic, like it or not, opens it up to a whole other market of potential sales.
You effectively double your market that way. Alot of people will want the car, but won't want to mess with a manual.
It's good and bad. Good in that with that much more market, Vendors are more likely to come out with performance upgrades
Bad in that you think your the **** driving around in your 2009 SS/TC, and then grandma pulls up beside you in one that's the same color.
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The problem with the 4-speed in the HHR SS is it's limited on HP to 236 HP I believe it is instead of 260HP.
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Automatic transmissioned boosted cars use boost more effectivly then manual transmissioned boosted cars due to the faster shifts between ears. It allows for the boost levels to stay higher then drop to zero and need to be pumped back up again. It'd sure be nice if GM did this.
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i agree..i hate driving stick its a pain in the ass sometimes but w/e i much rather an automatic but rather have the hp of the manuals
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Originally Posted by joey26lil
i agree..i hate driving stick its a pain in the ass sometimes but w/e i much rather an automatic but rather have the hp of the manuals
Stop your bitching
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Originally Posted by Jackalope
Automatic transmissioned boosted cars use boost more effectivly then manual transmissioned boosted cars due to the faster shifts between ears. It allows for the boost levels to stay higher then drop to zero and need to be pumped back up again. It'd sure be nice if GM did this.
But, GM also introduced the "no-lift" shift under WOT so it could control the throttle during shifting to help maintain boost between shifts.
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Originally Posted by Jackalope
Automatic transmissioned boosted cars use boost more effectivly then manual transmissioned boosted cars due to the faster shifts between ears. It allows for the boost levels to stay higher then drop to zero and need to be pumped back up again. It'd sure be nice if GM did this.
that is pointless with the no lift shift feature of the stick CSS T

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No auto for the coupe ....expect the automatic as an option in the 4 door SS , lower power output and all .
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Originally Posted by brentil
The problem with the 4-speed in the HHR SS is it's limited on HP to 236 HP I believe it is instead of 260HP.
Actually the automatic HHR is 250HP 222lb/ft
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Originally Posted by Rangerondubz
Stop your bitching
quit your hating on an automatic 2.0 LNF. Don't like it--get the manual.

I do miss a 5 speed but it makes my rush hour commute HELL. I arrive home all pised off.

Maybe I should convert the Formula to a 6 speed for some hassle free cruising....
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Originally Posted by avro206
quit your hating on an automatic 2.0 LNF. Don't like it--get the manual.

I do miss a 5 speed but it makes my rush hour commute HELL. I arrive home all pised off.

Maybe I should convert the Formula to a 6 speed for some hassle free cruising....
You hit the nail on the head. It's all about convienence (at least for me) when you're commuting each day.

The lease is up on my 05 LS next spring and I'm crossing my fingers that an automatic turbo will be available. The lack of an automatic SS/SC is what prevented me from getting it back in 2005...
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Originally Posted by bluebaltjim
mmmmmm no, learn to drive a stick
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...live in a stop and go are much?
Old 11-02-2007, 05:36 AM
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I think if they can put an auto in the solstice GXP,they can do it in the ss/tc
Old 11-02-2007, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by g5mike
I think if they can put an auto in the solstice GXP,they can do it in the ss/tc
It's got nothing to do with weather they can or cannot. But, putting it simply.. the fact that they can put an auto in a SolGXP does not mean they can automatically put one into an ss/tc. They are different platforms, and parts won't directly swap into the other car.
On the other hand, the fact that the HHR SS will have an Auto option does mean they have parts readily available which can be swapped directly into the ss/tc with little work.

The major issue is really weather they will want to offer an auto option. They are offering the auto in the HHR because the HHR is more of a commuter car on steroids. The ss/tc is really designed to be a peppy fun-to-drive little car. They are for different crowds.
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Interesting

interesting question. I had previously thought they would do this too. I am hoping that they don't though. I mean, it IS about convenience, but I personally think they should keep the performance cars in the hands of the people who know how to drive them and are car enthusiasts/at least know how to drive stick. I personally hated driving my auto 2.2L, great car, wonderful to drive, but boring and very limiting. I say they only keep it manual. I would hate to come to a stop light to see an SS/TC, and want to talk or something, only to have it be some spoiled girl or some body who doens't take care of it and just drives it.

Originally Posted by monkeiboy
You effectively double your market that way. Alot of people will want the car, but won't want to mess with a manual.
It's good and bad. Good in that with that much more market, Vendors are more likely to come out with performance upgrades
Bad in that you think your the **** driving around in your 2009 SS/TC, and then grandma pulls up beside you in one that's the same color.
I agree with this. I kind of like it only manual, makes people who have it, you know they're usually enthusiasts and not just driving it to drive it.

Originally Posted by Jackalope
Automatic transmissioned boosted cars use boost more effectivly then manual transmissioned boosted cars due to the faster shifts between ears. It allows for the boost levels to stay higher then drop to zero and need to be pumped back up again. It'd sure be nice if GM did this.
This is truth, I'd prefer manual though, but yeah auto keeps your boost up.
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honestly i wouldnt get a turboed cobalt sedan....the coup just looks better. besides the sedan doesnt strike me as "sporty" like an evo or sti....
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GXP Solstice automatic is faster than the manual.......it advertised the "no lift" marking hype also at the start for the manual.
Facts are facts manual you have to let off the gas to shift, boost drops, no electronics are going to change that completely

Personally though I believe the Cobalt should only be a manual and IF GM does automatic it needs to be something like in the G6(6spd shifter),........and if it wasn't so damn exspensive DSG for automatic(i mean the C7 vette will have it so they are already looking into it etc...)

Personally I'd love to have a 6spd manual, so it would be great for cruising, or well to put it simple "fun driving"
I have a 2.4L Cobalt, and soon as weather gets bad enought o get out the truck for winter I'll be doing a hahn turbo......but it's still an automatic I had alot more fun even IN stop and go traffic(downtown Atlanta, 6days a week, 3-4x a day etc...)in my 6spd GTi 1.8Turbo but it was a money pit with TON of issues........not one problem with ANY Chevrolet to date

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It would be way better if it was a 6 spd manual instead of a 5 spd for cruising.

Boost drop on the manual should not be too bad with this car because of the small turbo, it will still be in boost at the lower RPM's. That is if you can shift reasonably fast.

I don't see the problem with an Auto version of the LNF cobalt. I personally don't want one, but many do. Better for all if more are sold.
Old 11-03-2007, 11:26 AM
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hmmmm2.0 turbo auto..might be interesting...but i rather supercharge my 2,4 auto...to save some money....i alreayd have neg equity..lol...so cant really trade it in 2years so...even though id be almost half done paying off the balt...probably keeping my 2.4 ss 4 LIFE...NEW NEW WORLD ORDER......NWO LOL
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Ehh, dosent make a difference to me. Ill have a turbo sedan not to long from now...


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