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Old 01-17-2015, 12:46 PM
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Black smoke while starting.

Well i always start my car and let it warm up while I smoke a cig. The other day I noticed black smoke coming out of the exhaust at a cold start. It's been below 25*f for the past few weeks. It would only last for 10 maybe 20 seconds then go to a normal color. It did it today aswell with a smell of gas. I checked my oil and it doesn't have a sweet smell or off color to it. My coolant level is consistent. Could the car be running rich? Is this smoke normal? I've searched around and only seem to fine results with black smoke at wot.

Stock tune stock car except for an injen sp series cai. No codes thrown.

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Well i always start my car and let it warm up while I smoke a cig. The other day I noticed black smoke coming out of the exhaust at a cold start. It's been below 25*f for the past few weeks. It would only last for 10 maybe 20 seconds then go to a normal color. It did it today aswell with a smell of gas. I checked my oil and it doesn't have a sweet smell or off color to it. My coolant level is consistent. Could the car be running rich? Is this smoke normal? I've searched around and only seem to fine results with black smoke at wot.

Stock tune stock car except for an injen sp series cai. No codes thrown.
Lol. Cars are tuned to run pig rich on cold start up.
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its throwing alot of fuel to warmup the cat and since its soo cold there, is not burning all of the fuel and its making a black smoke because its not being mixed properly with thevair.

if you want the science behind it, bring in area47 in here.
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So it's normal for these damn cars?
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I swear these cars are ridiculous. Things that seem off on other cars is normal on these.
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No. All cars run rich during warm up.
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are you sure its smoke and not water vapor?
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If u don't like it get cat warm up turned off
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Didn't know vapor could be black. I have no problem with the cat warm up mode. Kinda like it on cold days. Just wanted to make sure everything's cool. Lol thanks guys
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Didn't know vapor could be black. I have no problem with the cat warm up mode. Kinda like it on cold days. Just wanted to make sure everything's cool. Lol thanks guys
It is totally normal. I made a thread asking the exact same question a few years ago about my 09 TC. And once i read more onto it and was assured by other members it is 100% normal. My car does it in the cold winter. But obce it warms up outside. It does not do it anymore. You have nothing to worry about.
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So what happens if u delete cat warm up? Does it take longer for the car to get to operating temperature? Why do people do this?
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So what happens if u delete cat warm up? Does it take longer for the car to get to operating temperature? Why do people do this?
It only idles high for a bit to get the cat to operating temp quicker.

Most people get it turned off when they do catless.
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since this is not face book and can't tag people in here to get their attention, the search button works as well. Dumping raw fuel on start up is fine, however excessive black smoke rolling out of the ass end of the car is not. Who tuned it? Does it have a cat? Is it throwing codes?
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Originally Posted by Area47
since this is not face book and can't tag people in here to get their attention, the search button works as well. Dumping raw fuel on start up is fine, however excessive black smoke rolling out of the ass end of the car is not. Who tuned it? Does it have a cat? Is it throwing codes?
My guess it's since he's on the stock tune with the injen cai, I would assume his LTFT are positive so he's dumping extra fuel on start up hence the little extra smoke during cat-warmup.
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It was never excessive. Lasts for a split second really. I can't wait to get rid of this cai and get a damn Sri or even a stock intake tho.
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put the stock intake back on. EF is most likely correct. Injen sucks.
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Will have to buy one then :/. Bought it with the injen on it already.
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Find someone to tune you, that's another solution. Just make sure they've worked with lnfs before or buy hptuners and adjust the maf yourself and for the love of god do not get trifecta
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Was going to do the canned tune from zzp actually.
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Dont. Get a custom tune, or like I said buy hptuners and read up on the hptuners forum. If you understand math and engineering you can get tuning a car
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Are the canned tunes not good? Unreliable? I'm not looking to go crazy with this car at all.
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A canned tune is just that, canned. With a custom tune you can get better control of how the car reacts and make sure everything is correct
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May do that instead. I'd rather not buy the software and just have someone knowledgable in that field. I would be much happier with a tune that fixes the ltft and stft for the intake and maybe boost it up to 18psi max lol. Ultra conservative

I just know canned tunes are cheap as hell compared to having someone tune it.

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My ZZP canned tune had my fuel trims +\- 2 pretty much all the time, they got the intakes dialed in pretty good from what I've seen. I would consider it conservative, but still fun

But there is more power to be found with a custom HP tune obviously. But for what your looking to do with the car I would stick with the canned tune.
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This is totally normal. Mine does it too. It's just running rich to try to warm up. If you think your's is bad, you should see what it looks like when you start it when it's -15'F with a -70'F wind chill. No car is happy when you start it when it's that cold .

Also, you don't need to let it warm up that long, really. Light driving gets it warm faster. Just let it get through CAT warmup mode first. But do what you want with your car.
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