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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 09:14 PM
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Any pics yet of how you solved the 3" space from the UICP to the Turbo?
I would have got a piece of 3 " aluminum tubing cut it about 2 inches , use another silicone coupler and 3 more alligator/ worm drive clamps ...


You could probably hack off a section of you original pipes couplers as they are like a foot long to begin with
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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 09:21 PM
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I would have got a piece of 3 " aluminum tubing cut it about 2 inches , use another silicone coupler and 3 more alligator/ worm drive clamps ...


You could probably hack off a section of you original pipes couplers as they are like a foot long to begin with
That's what we did
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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 09:49 PM
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That's what we did
king of Jerry rig!!!!
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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 10:38 PM
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king of Jerry rig!!!!
Hey it works lol
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 01:02 AM
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Packers game is over, did you get some tuning done?
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 01:07 AM
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Did quite a bit of tunning today car pulls very strong. I lent tyler my hp tuners so he should get a lot more done tomorrow
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 01:16 AM
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What psi are you running, at what rpm are you seeing full boost? Come on man we need some details.
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 01:22 AM
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Down Paul down
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 02:05 AM
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Did quite a bit of tunning today car pulls very strong. I lent tyler my hp tuners so he should get a lot more done tomorrow
I just saw one of these run tonight. 2nd gear seems much more useful.
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 02:54 AM
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With the dual tune and a wastegate spring higher then stock, it takes a few adjustments to get the boost under control. This last flash I sent should have it around the 22 mark like we want for now. Once we get the boost under control we'll work on the power portion. Its looking nice so far tho, Ill bet it makes a nice flat HP curve.
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 11:56 AM
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Got it pretty close last night within 5 flashes, def looks like it pulls well. Still have some work to do getting the lower RPM boost to come on stronger now and the boost is looking flatter otherwise. Should have it pretty wrapped up on the gas tune today

The last log he def popped a CP off or something tho. The WG% was pinned the whole time he was WOT and its only making a few psi. Before it was holding 22+psi with only 60-70%.
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 12:01 PM
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During the logs last night we were seeing 27-29 psi definitely have to bring that down
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 12:14 PM
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Yea, that was the first couple lol.. It doesn't do that anymore. I just said that

There isnt a table in HPT that allows you to directly input a set PSI amount. Everything is load based so it takes a lil to get that portion smoothed out.

If you decide to try and run the factory boost control on your car with a higher spring then stock, you will see it takes a few tries to get it to not spike. I told him to let out if it spikes and to let me know what it did. He likes to stay in that throttle tho LOL!
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 12:21 PM
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What type of BYT tune is he using?

A regular HPT or a Trifecta/HPT tune?

Also is a MAF Relocate necessary for the 2871 or can we get by with just a BOV? I read back some pages and saw people talking about it. but never saw a post yet saying you definetly needed a MAF relocate to run a 2871.

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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BYT*SS*TURBO
Yea, that was the first couple lol.. It doesn't do that anymore. I just said that

There isnt a table in HPT that allows you to directly input a set PSI amount. Everything is load based so it takes a lil to get that portion smoothed out.

If you decide to try and run the factory boost control on your car with a higher spring then stock, you will see it takes a few tries to get it to not spike. I told him to let out if it spikes and to let me know what it did. He likes to stay in that throttle tho LOL!
i was stating in the last log we did last night we still saw boost higher than 22.5. i know the night after we got the turbo installed it was acting like a boost leak and he was throwing a p0101 code he cleared that and it drove fine for awhile hope its just a charge pipe and not a cracked ic but i havent heard of crazysteve ic cracking.
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 03:51 PM
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To clear up a little confusion...FF_ace left last night before the last couple flashes. When he left we were still seeing 27psi, but now less.
As for the issue, thank god there was no boost leak, but if you do this install make SURE that you tighten the nuts on the wastegate actuator rod. Initially we had about three threads showing on the wastegate side of the bolt and after spraying soapy water all over my car all morning (looking for a boost leak) I finally got under it and found the problem. The rod had almost completely slipped out and the nut on the end was just barely hanging on (instead of 3 threads more like 20 threads showing). I tightened it all up and it is holding boost again just fine. About to do some more data logging now...and I swear, I'll try to be a little more gentle with the throttle, lol
As for when it gets into boost, etc, I've been concentrating on watching the spikes and rolling into it closer to 4krpm anyways, so I dont' have an answer yet. I'll get there, promise...maybe even take a video for you all ;-)
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 04:49 PM
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some vids would be really nice
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 07:10 PM
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So, car won't hold me that 15psi. I need to adjust the WG rod. Here are a couple pics of the WG rod and why it is a PITA

This is my view. I have the nuts loosened but it is difficult to get to. My arms are burnt to ****.


Here is a better pic where I held the camera up.


So which way am I supposed to pull that rod? I'm getting (I think) that I am supposed to to pull the rod further out of the wastegate. The only way I can really do this is by tightening the far side nut(invisible in these pictures). I just don't want to start torquing the **** out of it to pull it further and further toward the wastegate and then break it. I've broken too many things by doing that, and my new turbo is not about to be added to the list.

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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 07:24 PM
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Ok, its slightly different then what I was describing. You want that arm to be pulled back close to the wastegate can part, this makes sure the "door" is closed and the turbo will spool up as its supposed to.

The pics helped
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 40rty
Sup,


RYRIDEMOTOX's car is who I was talking about making 350 on pump. See I didn't know that you tuned his using pump. That's what I like to see and I know him personally. Just not a fan of the whole E85/91 and Meth, that doesn't even sound cost effective.
Well in some areas E-85 is $2.55 a gallon vs $3.30-3.60 for premuim. Gas milage goes down 8-10% on E-47 but it is much cleaner burning with will help keep the valves cleaner (mainly exhaust). Power gains can be up to 30 whp depending on boost levels and previous gas quality.

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During the logs last night we were seeing 27-29 psi definitely have to bring that down
Is he still on 91 octane or an E-85 blend?

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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 01:32 PM
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Well in some areas E-85 is $2.55 a gallon vs $3.30-3.60 for premuim. Gas milage goes down 8-10% on E-47 but it is much cleaner burning with will help keep the valves cleaner (mainly exhaust). Power gains can be up to 30 whp depending on boost levels and previous gas quality.



Is he still on 91 octane or an E-85 blend?
hes doing just a 91 tune right now but he cant get his boost higher than 15psi. he tightened the wg rod and he says the IC and all the CP are good dont know why it wont boost any higher when i was with him it had no problem boosting 25-29psi
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 02:00 PM
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Something happened because it went from 22 to nothing and now it wont hold more then 15psi. The WG% is pegged immediately, there is def a leak.



But the car is on 91 right now while we get all the initial stuff smoothed out. Then he will be moving to the E blend for the actual tune on the car. Like Ive said above, it takes a bit of work to get the combo tune boosting the way you like since its set by load and not a PSI amount..
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BYT*SS*TURBO
Yea, that was the first couple lol.. It doesn't do that anymore. I just said that

There isnt a table in HPT that allows you to directly input a set PSI amount. Everything is load based so it takes a lil to get that portion smoothed out.

If you decide to try and run the factory boost control on your car with a higher spring then stock, you will see it takes a few tries to get it to not spike. I told him to let out if it spikes and to let me know what it did. He likes to stay in that throttle tho LOL!
We know all to well about the spiking lol.
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 02:47 PM
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Yes we do LOL. His car reacted properly tho once I made some adjustments! Still had a lil spike up top but it held in the right area otherwise.
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 03:43 PM
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After work today I'll start ripping the car apart in earnest to find this boost leak. So far I really haven't, but the only place I can think it is would be the back of the FMIC where I can't see since I've checked everything else. Wish me luck.
Edit: Please god of turbos, let me be stupid and let it be a leak at a coupler that I somehow missed earlier...
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