With the right set up a GT2871r will make well over 400whp. M-Dub was making 383whp on 18psi if I'm not mistaken, and when he cranked it up to 22psi he was making 455whp.

 

Ok so you just proved that your not gonna even get 300whp with the k04 on the 1.8 much less the the 350whp you stated earlier

Like I said. Your are comparing 2 different brand turbos of 2 different sizes and expecting the same results. Am I missing something here?

 

plus different liters and one has DI one doesn't stupid compariosn

 

No one will believe you because he didn't go around and flaunt it like an *******.

 

Ok guy, let me break it down for you a little more since i knew you were going to go off on the k04. The k04 on the chart is not the k04 your thinking! That is the VW K04-001(24lb compressor wheel), not the SS/TC k04(36lb compressor wheel/bigger housing). I will be using an SS/TC k04 with BNR's upgrade and making a custom setup for my 1.8T because quite frankly the VW k04 is a huge waste of money and I'm not a fan of bigger turbos which the VW community is all about. Regardless, I just wanted you to see that a Disco Potato is capable of making 340-350 with some good tuning and supporting bolt-ons.

 

UPDATE!!!!!!! From BNR My email came with pictures of the new turbo upgrade parts

First of all, thank you for your patience waiting for our product's arrival to the market. We have the 2871 compressor wheels in stock, now all we are waiting on are the machine tools to machine the turbine housings. Our sample unit is done. Now we are working on CAD programs and jigs for machining the turbine and compressor housings. Here is a sneak peak at what the finished product will look like!

When we are ready for production, I will give a certain date that the turbocharger cores must be at my shop. I will dedicate a full week for the upgrade process for the LNF turbochargers that way everyone doesn't have their cars down for long. During that week, we will disassemble the turbochargers on Monday, and start prepping them for the CNC machines. Tuesday and Wednesday will be at the machine shop. Then assembly will come Thursday and early Friday. Packing and shipment will be on the Friday. This strategy will allow for minimal down time. Tell me what you guys think?

In the mean time, I am trying to find turbocharger cores. I have 6 of my own, 8 total. 2 of them are spoken for. We are working on core bank so we can have an exchange program. It will be ideal to have around 20 turbocharger cores.

Talk it up on the forums and see what everyones opinion is!

Thanks for your interest and help getting this product rolling...

Bryan Nickell
BNR Supercars LLC

 

You mean this





( posting while eagerly yanking my turbo out the car)

 

muhahahaha INTERESTING>. VEEEEEEEEERY interesting that turbine is a bit bigger.. but the supporting hardaare looks MUCH beefier

 

:::: finger tips fanning themselves:::::



YES YES muahahahhahahahah ::evil laugh::


for real this is SO cool for the guys who just want a little more turbo !

 

It was fate, I went down to the local turbo shop today (not BNR) to talk to them about converting my Mitsubishi K04, they were closed and out of town at a Outlaw racing event.
Get home this evening, open up my email tonight and I got the email from BNR.

Guess its time to order a UICP with a BOV

 

I am a little slow with turbo models flanges , trims , BPV RBV , Why can't you use the recirculatory thats stock . Could I modify my CIA upper pipe to accept a tial or something or should I just buy another upper and sell this CIA for 60 bucks to your door?

 

I know! When I got the e-mail a was as giddy as a schoolgirl! lol Cant wait man

He is also asking that anyone with a blown turbo(available on e-bay for 300-400 bucks) can send in so he can have a core exchange program ready to go for prime time.

 

Dude wants 20 cores at any given time LMFAO ,, this guy means business..

 

Now that makes sense. Dont think you mentioned that till now. Thought you were just gonna slap on a stock k04. What supposed to be the flow rate on this? ~40lb/min?

 

It dosent look like they did any thing to the exhaust side of the turbo. I'd like to see a dyno chart before buying. You guys should send him an email requesting this. And btw you guys do know that auto werks has had a bigger turbine upgrade for a long time now?

 

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-0l...grades-229589/

there are alot of people

 

No, they really aren't efficient or long lasting. You obviously have no experience servicing turbocharged engines. Mitsubishi has tons of problems with their turbos, most common being bad turbo seals which cause oil burning. Evos go through oil faster than they go through fuel.

GM chose Borg Warner for the SS LNF for a reason, they are one of the top quality turbo suppliers in the world. Borg Warner is a German company, and quality is number 1. Mitsubishi has quality listed somewhere around job 1000, which comes somewhere after make lots of money selling junk products to gullible idiots.

Turbo failures of the K04 are rare, you will see a huge spike in turbo failures when these new Mitsu turbos come out though, unless they have improved the quality of them somehow.

 

Around that yes. BTF or Rick crunched some numbers and got 41lbs a min with his upgrade, so BNR's GT2871r upgrade would be more like 44-45lbs a min I would guess.

 

The compressor housing shown does not have a BPV, so there's no way to recirculate. The barb you see on the housing would go to your BOV that you will have to have in the hotside pipe. You can always get a BOV flange welded into any pipe you have, but it would be easier to just buy one pre-fabbed.

 

So you are saying GM is going from a top of the line Turbo with a small failure rate to a Middle of the line turbo with a high failure rate? This makes no sense to me, GM would have to replace more turbos under warranty.

BTF has said in many of his post how almost every Borg Warner LNF turbo he had recieved looked bad and needed some type of rebuild. I even know of a HHR SS guy who is on his 4th BW turbo. PLus we've seen members on this board that needed new BW turbos already.

Now BTF did say the BW had good technology in them (extended tips), but who cares if you have to rebuild the friggin thing or replace it often.

Maybe the new Mitsubishi turbos are crap but I have a TD06H-20G running strong after 3 years of weekend drag strip duties and used in DD. When I owned my 90 AWD talon the 14b and Big 16g could probably have been run over by a truck, slapped back on and used.

Again I'm not saying I'm a turbo expert by any means, I'm going off of personal experience own and using the older style Mitsubishi Turbo's.

 

Email I recieved today

First of all, thank you for your patience waiting for our product's arrival to the market.* We have the 2871 compressor wheels in stock, now all we are waiting on are the machine tools to machine the turbine housings.* Our sample unit is done.* Now we are working on CAD programs and jigs for machining the turbine and compressor housings.* Here is a sneak peak at what the finished product will look like!
*
When we are ready for production, I will give a certain date that the turbocharger cores must be at my shop.* I will dedicate a full week for the upgrade process for the LNF turbochargers that way everyone doesn't have their cars down for long.* During that week, we will disassemble the turbochargers on Monday, and start prepping them for the CNC machines.* Tuesday and Wednesday will be at the machine shop.* Then assembly will come Thursday and early Friday.* Packing and shipment will be on the Friday.* This strategy will allow for minimal down time.* Tell me what you guys think?
*
In the mean time, I am trying to find turbocharger cores.* I have 6 of my own, 8 total.* 2 of them are spoken for.* We are working on core bank so we can have an exchange program.* It will be ideal to have around 20 turbocharger cores.
*
Talk it up on the forums and see what everyones opinion is!
*
Thanks for your interest and help getting this product rolling...

Bryan Nickell
BNR Supercars LLC
205 640 1193
bnrsupercars.com

 

A little late there man, post #81 & 82

 

I hope that bnr or the first ones to get the 2871 chra swapped k04 will post numbers. Without any solid numbers I don't think that many peoples will be interested in buying this. However, I know that a dyno proving 380-400 whp would make me buy one. I hope the turbine housing of the k04 is not too restrictive and won't choke the 2871 too much.

 

Please don't white wash all forums this way.

I am admin on a forum that is nothing like this - then again we also clearly state that we're user supported, and no one is profiting of the site either... we don't even have advertisements(!)

If you don't like the forum you're on (which ever one that might be), by all meants find another one ... lnf performance maybe?

FYI: I just tried, and it looks like the BNR site has server issues at the moment.

I know that I would be interested in something like this... especially since it's technically not an aftermarket part
(it helps that I too have a spare turbo here)

I'm glad to read that Brian has replied, and that HHRsouth is on the 'to be notified' list...

also guys, iirc the the Buick regal engine isn't actually an LNF, it uses two new variants;
the CXL's engine makes 220hp & 258tq (backed by an automatic?)
the GS's engine makes 255hp & 295tq (backed by a six speed?)
...unfortunately although I do remember reading the new engine RPO's, I couldn't find them just now.

awesome!

subscribed.

 

Everyone knows this. But the price is too high for the minimal gains. To re-iterate, BNR is taking a k04, gutting it, and then replace the full internals(intake and exhaust wheels, bearing and shaft) whith those of a GT28. Essentially its a GT28 in the form of a a k04.

We all know that testing is required and all that jazz but this guy has a great track record doing this for years on other vehicles, successfully. The mazda guys love him and their k04 is almost the same as ours.

Cant wait!