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Old 05-15-2012, 10:43 AM
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That dig race video is mine. If you watch the roll, I kill the 5.0 by over 3 cars.
Old 05-15-2012, 10:52 AM
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the second video posted is mine probably would of held him off if i didnt mess up the 3-4 NLS. you can hear it popping when it happens.
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Originally Posted by slowstang
Sarcasm. You missed it.

The auto's got 3.15 gears and are faster than the manuals 90% of the time. After a few bolt-on's the autos start to pull away from the manual even better. It takes a sticky tire high rpm launch/perfect run to outrun the 6a trans. My brothers 100% bone stock auto car went a 12.51 at 113.7. After a tune, off road h-pipe, catback, weld rt-s rims, and air filter it clicked off an 11.7 at 119mph.

My car is a 3.31 6m with an x-pipe, catback, air filter, and tune. I just managed a 12.3 at 117mph this past saturday.

well, if driven properly, the better gearing, and manual should kill every time. the autos will be more consistant obviously, but the weight reduction, better gearing, less drivetrain power loss of the manual SHOULD prevail.

autos normally weigh about 150-200lbs more, and have 5-7% more drivetrain loss.

Either way, i think you running a 12.3 @ 117 is great..
Old 05-15-2012, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by AARON-SS-TC
well, if driven properly, the better gearing, and manual should kill every time. the autos will be more consistant obviously, but the weight reduction, better gearing, less drivetrain power loss of the manual SHOULD prevail.

autos normally weigh about 150-200lbs more, and have 5-7% more drivetrain loss.

Either way, i think you running a 12.3 @ 117 is great..
The manual does not have better gearing per say. The auto has a 4.17 first gear ratio vs the manuals 3.66 so the 3.15 rear gear for the auto's isn't a handicap like it sounds. The weight difference is 48 lbs between the auto and manual.

I'm going off of facts that the auto's out run the manuals in these cars the majority of the time at the dragstrip. If the cars have the same mods and race at the track the auto will win 9 out of 10 times.
Old 05-15-2012, 04:44 PM
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i dont disagree with you, but obviously you yourself got a manual for a reason

Hey Dart, what tune and mods did you have at the time of the race?
Old 05-15-2012, 07:21 PM
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I had basic bolt ons, and a 30psi area47/mdub tune.
Old 05-15-2012, 11:57 PM
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cool. 30psi spike down to what, like 22psi?
Old 05-16-2012, 12:03 AM
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Lol

I beat one by like 3 cars.

Cobalt SS vs 2011 Mustang 5.0 - YouTube
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Cobalt FTW
Old 05-16-2012, 09:13 AM
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Both the SS/TC and the new Mustang 5.0 are respectable cars. Both are not to be F'd with. Thought about renting a GT through Hertz's Adrenaline collection for my bday
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Originally Posted by jonathan923
5.0s stock arent a big deal at all. but bolted and well tuned are no joke.



This. Stock 5.0 i walked all over on stock turbo.

Full bolt-on and Bama race tune was a little much for my trifecta tune.
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I know the 5.0's can get some good numbers with mods n whatnot, but I haven't seen any dip into the low 12's up here.. best I've seen was a 12.76 and just this past weekend I saw a Boss run a 13.4@109 which depressed me honestly lol.. I've seen those cars run 11.7@119 in the States.
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Originally Posted by slowstang
While that's some good driving i'd be willing to bet it's not stock. The MPH is way too high for a stocker. Ive seen stock 5.0's run 113mph in Cecil County Dragway's mineshaft november/december air...it doesn't get any better than Cecil's fall weather. We're talking 1000- below sea level conditions.
Car is bone stock. Multiple local guys have run similar ET's within a couple tenths at nearly the same mph. Only on the vacuum that is CobaltSS.net are the new 5.0s slow.
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Originally Posted by zrated89
We know there's always out of the norm kinda like u and i. But for the most part I see bone stock ones going low 13s with only a 105-107 trap. Only a little better than the SS camaros. I ran one with intake exhaust tune and radials and still beat him. Left him at the tree as well
And most SS/TCs around here go 14.50s with tunes, what's your point?
Old 05-20-2012, 12:54 AM
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point is for the norm low to mid 13's is the norm for most stock 5.0s. I probably run more at the track and have seen/have buddies that own them, and for all the hype about them when they were released im not impressed at all
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Originally Posted by zrated89
point is for the norm low to mid 13's is the norm for most stock 5.0s. I probably run more at the track and have seen/have buddies that own them, and for all the hype about them when they were released im not impressed at all
i see your point, But at the same stock how many Stock Cobalt's in any form are running in the 13's let alone deep 13's and some in the high 12's COMPLETELY STOCK? Maybe one high 13 with driver mod 2.1 but that would be just about it for sure not a single 12 in completely stock form.. And the fact of the matter is yes a 300+hp/Tq fwd car will pull from 40+ on a roll because most balt driver's are afraid to really launch there car... The 60foot tells all in this case IMHO because the new 5.0 can pull sub 2.2 second or better 60' foot's stock even with no driver mod and well that's alittle harder for a FWD car! oh wait i forgot which forum im on cause on here a bolt on LNF can pull just about anything from 40....
Old 05-20-2012, 03:18 AM
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lol that is true but ur comparing apples to oranges here. The new coyote motor was way overhyped, where as the cobalt was rated at a 14.8 @98-100mph stock. and its an econo box as well. for how much hype the new 5.0 recieved its def not that impressive to me
Old 05-20-2012, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by zrated89
lol that is true but ur comparing apples to oranges here. The new coyote motor was way overhyped, where as the cobalt was rated at a 14.8 @98-100mph stock. and its an econo box as well. for how much hype the new 5.0 recieved its def not that impressive to me
What would be impressive to you? The cars have gone DEEP 12s bone stock at 115ish verified by countless people. There have to be 15 just on the local Mustang forum who have run mid to high 12s stock in normal air (the 12.2 runs are obviously run under perfect conditions). Every test and tune I go to is littered with mid to low 11 second 5.0s with a small shot of spray and DRs, high 11 second cars with bolt-ons and DRs, etc. One quick look at the forums will show that there are what, a few guys that have even gone 12s in Cobalts? Your car runs 12.0 at 117, of course you are going to waste new 5.0s, why wouldn't you? Idiots can buy any car, a lot of them buy Mustangs, if course it is going to be common to see them run pathetic times, they are all over the place. Just like the kid running mid 14s in the SS/TC the other night, doesn't mean the car isn't impressive.
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They only run those times at perfect conditions on sea level. I witnessed a 5.0 with bolt ons and tune hit a 12.8. Its fast but not that impressive.
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all im saying is im not really impressed. before they were released people were talking oh they will go high 11's with a radial blah blah blah. Now i dont hate hell i think its the first mustang that looks good, im just saying for the hype they recieved i dont feel they lived up to the bar set for them.
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Originally Posted by Dart_SI
They only run those times at perfect conditions on sea level. I witnessed a 5.0 with bolt ons and tune hit a 12.8. Its fast but not that impressive.
my point exactly i thrashed one with full bolt ons and tune on radials i even left him at the tree so no im not impressed
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I honestly think CSS.net is in a vacuum. Only viable explanation for comments made in here.
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i have owned and raced more sports cars then u could imagine. Im not being biased by any means and work on cars for a living. The new 5.0 was overhyped end of story
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Originally Posted by zrated89
i have owned and raced more sports cars then u could imagine. Im not being biased by any means and work on cars for a living. The new 5.0 was overhyped end of story
Your posts definitely show your extensive knowledge. How you can talk so much **** with a 12.0@117 car is beyond me. Not sure what track you go to, but around here that time wouldn't even raise an eyebrow. Seriously not trying to be a *****, just don't understand how guys on here arrive at the conclusions they do. A car gets released, countless guys run low to mid 12s bone stock, easy 11s on drag radials with minimal mods, a few in the 9s (with stock trans and long block no less) while still being street legal, 10s NA a few months after the cars came out, and you aren't impressed? Obviously there really isn't any reason to discuss the issue any further, really isn't worth anyone else wasting their time. Haters gonna hate.
Old 05-20-2012, 08:52 PM
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youre really not getting the point. were talking about the average joe and a stock 5.0. 99 percent are in the 13's so it is what it is. I could give a dam watch u watch on youtube


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