im thinking of upgradeing the pipes since there stock. but do i need to be tuned for these? also what brands are out there and whats the best bang for the buck? i was thinking zzp but im not shure how i should order them

 

still no help

 

no tuning needed. If you don't want a MAF reloceate (which you DO need to tune for) just get the hot side piping (or upper piping). ZZP makes a great set of pipes, but you have to cut your stock elbow if you don't order their silicone couplers.

 

ah thanks tommy. i was thinking just the hot side for show purposes. might get the K@N intake. but ive had issuse with intakes.

 

zzp 4 life

 

ZZP piping is nice

I love how it bolts to the engine i highly recommend it

Also love my K&N SRI

 

If you want a hotside only, many are satisfied with Injen, as long as you buy better couplers/clamps.

 

Zzp

 

As stated Injen is the best bang for the $

 

but its injen lol

 

now what kind of clamps are we talking like worm clamps? btw just got a new Trans at 51k, third ground itself away ha.

 

Injen is NOT china, Injen is quality, made in the USA

 

hes got a pint there.

i dont like the way it goes over the motor. i like the stock route.

 

Stock route is okay, but Injen did this for performance, better flow and more HP.

 

i know, i just like zzp, i like to help a local shop out which that would be zzp and all my cars iv had were done by zzp, iv had no problem there good ppl

 

i live here in michigan close to where there made. thats why ZZP is what i look at. ive seen an all ZZP GTP at milan holy hell it was fast

 

I would have bought ZZP pipes if they were out at the time I bought CIA dress-up hot sides. I do like the way the CIA's follow the stock route and not straight across the motor .... but i guess the shorter one's are good for a couple hp more from what ive read.

 

im onyl stickin wit zzp, lets talk turbo swap now, does injen make one hehe

 

Can you explain a bit more on this? Which elbow do you have to cut: The one from the turbo or the one going to the IC? And are you sure you have to cut it? This is the first I've heard about this.

 

You don't have to cut anything if you buy ZZP's coupler kit . If you want to save some cash you can cut the couplers off your stock charge piping and reuse them.

 

My Injen has given me no problems and it looks sexy! Make sure you get the upgrade on the couplers and T-bolts. Im tuned and the is no need for m.a.p. relocate. My buddy has the same set up and he did the m.a.p. relocate but there is no real preformance gain